Exactly this. They lose 30% to Steam and people can play COD for free on PC. Long term it's a bad strategy (particularly with MS buying Activision) as this will encourage all those players to just play on PC instead for much less money. Didn't they actually lose PS+ subs already last quarter?Doesnt mean much. Those impressive concurrent numbers for GOW translated into less than a million sales in 5 months and just a $26 million revenue for Sony after Valve's 30% cut.
If spiderman is below GOW then its probably going to be worse than that.
For reference, Sony posted $25 BILLION in revenue from their console business in 2020.
MS tried and succeeded at creating a PC store and they eventually had to relent and agree to sell their games on Steam anyway. Reaching a bigger userbase is something every greedy exec chases to no avail. MS started putting games on PC in 2016 and their consoles sales and XBL fell off a cliff. Xbox ended up being outsold 2 to 1 according to their own court filings. Those 150 million Steam users didnt help Halo and Forza land in the top 20 last year, but that could be the gamepass effect.
Maybe they should reconsider future plans for Nixxes and give them a chance to create own ip for ps5Doesnt mean much. Those impressive concurrent numbers for GOW translated into less than a million sales in 5 months and just a $26 million revenue for Sony after Valve's 30% cut.
If spiderman is below GOW then its probably going to be worse than that.
For reference, Sony posted $25 BILLION in revenue from their console business in 2020.
Release EVERYTHING Japan Studios made onto PC.
Or better yet, Nintendo. You know THE most profitable console manufacturer of all time?
Yuzu.
its a fairly old game though that sold a ton last gen and had a remaster. id wager a good portion of pc gamers have played this at some point already (myself included). Might pick it up on sale at some point though, be nice to have in the library.
Is pc piracy still as big as it used to be? Seemed to me since the birth of digital distribution that scene died down a lot. Maybe im out of touch i dont pay attention to that side of things.
why? pc audience is no the same as console audience. they rather have cult of the lamb than spiderman. different markets. i said it form day one, spider man wasnt going to sell as much as the other two. its an amazing game, but whats gonna sell on PC are the native ps5 games like returnal and demons souls...IF they come, but returnal is already rumored and has leaked screenshots and shit so itll come.
For single player games that get cracked on release it's certainly big, very easy to verify that.
denuvo stopped it a lot, of course its still rampant. but piracy dont mean shit these days. game is high priced, no regional pricing, 4 years old..i mean there are other factors other than piracy, but yes, denuvo pushed pirates back a lot, at least fort me. ever since denuvo came out, i buy every single game lol cause i cant wait.
As far as I know not a single Sony game so far had Denuvo and they were all cracked day one or close to it. With Sony story with DRM this is really weird, they went out of their way to fight piracy even on the Vita yet don't seem to care about it on PC now even when there is a obvious solution out there (Denuvo).
They are actually very solid for a new AAA game on Steam ,and i'm talking a brand new AAA gamethere, not a port of a 2 year old game.
What makes you think a port studio will be able to create their on game?
You're mixing the balls here, Xone was already selling poorly compared to ps4 from before that. You could argue them putting their games on PC was actually because they were doing bad numbers and had to change strategies (probably preparing for their gamepass approach)
Can't see the PS5 selling more than 70-80m this gen and I'm sure Sony can see the writing on the wall.
probably cause they arent in it for the initial sales but rather the long haul...in long terms, pc sales will keep on giving years and years after release so why get your customers mad with denuvo. at some point, at 5 dollars that guy that pirated the game will probably buy it cause he can finally affford it lol.
Nah i think PS5 will still hit 100mil this gen, unl;ess you're thinkng the chip shortages will last the whole gen.
Guess im out of touch. Games seem to sell a bunch on steam these day the pc market seems to be in a fairly health state.
You're not at all PC gaming is thriving breaking record after record every year and is now the main platform of most big developers including Capcom, Fromsoft, Sega and even Ubisoft.
These Sony releases aren't doing that much worse than Resident Evil VIII and seem to be doing much better than any Sega or Ubisoft games I could think off.
Times changed, piracy on PC has always been a service problem. People didn't pirate games because they were free, they pirated because downloading stuff from the net was more convenient than going out to buy a game that might not even be available. Add to that how insanely high game prices were on poorer countries and piracy was a thing.
As I've said, single player games are still massively pirated (specially those cracked day one), what people don't pirate are GaaS games... now look at the PC market, it's all about multiplayer for that exact reason.
"Massively pirated" (we don't have proper data to confirm how much they're really pirated or how much that is actually affecting sales), but the fact is in a fair scenario with day and date release with console versions, pc versions sell almost as much as ps4/5 versions, in some cases even more.
Spiderman 2 is easily the best Spiderman gamePC gamers when that new PS game drops on steam.
Steam user OhLookaDimeYT wrote:
"This is probably the best PC port of a PlayStation game to date. Not to mention THE best Spider-Man created to date. If you are reading this, you need this game in your library."
Yes we do, it's not hard to find out, if you don't know where to look for the info that's on you.
are you suggesting i should comb through dozens of pirate sites comparing numbers, even though some of those don't even show them? And how do we know how much of those numbers would be by people who'd actually buy the game if not given the choice?
Piracy doesn't equal a lost sale. Games are cheaper on PC day one than consoles. If you are willing to wait a couple months they'll be even cheaper. A pirate either wanted to try before buying or was never going to buy it in the first place.
You can go to any general tracker and look at what is at the top of the charts, it going to be Spider-Man, same thing happened with God of War. So unless you want to tell me that movie/show pirating isn't a thing anymore how would you explain that?
Elden Ring has an online component and it was probably heavily pirated as well regardless of the massive success that it was.
Why does Sony bother with fighting piracy on their system (including dead systems like the Vita for years) yet doesn't care about doing the same on PC when there is an easy solution? I don't know the answer, but denying piracy is still a huge issue on PC is absurd.
we have blue point example, maybe not exatly porting but remaking and now they apprently create new ip
Where is this general tracker and how do i know its numbers are accurate?
If you are that incompetent and can't figure it out by yourself I can't help you.
Or you could post a link, because this isn't something i can find with a 5 minute google search, and i know full well tracking piracy numbers isn't a trivial thing to do.
Why don't you find the link yourself and post here so you can get banned instead of me?
Are you telling me you're using some random piracy site or torrent to know the numbers? That is not a trustworthy source of information. Not to mention i don't even know which one you'd use since there is no central "piracy hub" without pirate bay.
