Uno Venova
Banned
This has got to go down in history as one of the worst defenses against party matchmaking Ive ever seen.
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Splatoon 2 is absolutely STUFFED with bizarre design decisions
- Thread starter Mr.Fletcher
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packy34
Member
Hes still in here spouting this garbage? Jesus.
Frozenprince
Banned
Why should a game artificially force the playlist to be populated?
If it's not populated, then obviously the player base didn't respond to that mode or playlist and didn't like it. I like Gun Game in COD, but it's a niche, rarely played game variant that's usually dead empty after 3-4 months, because not many people like it.
You're essentially forcing people to play something they may not even like because "It's the only thing available".
If it's not populated, then obviously the player base didn't respond to that mode or playlist and didn't like it. I like Gun Game in COD, but it's a niche, rarely played game variant that's usually dead empty after 3-4 months, because not many people like it.
You're essentially forcing people to play something they may not even like because "It's the only thing available".
Night Angel
Member
Lmao. We can ignore your opinion on everything, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.
Jaysis
Nope sadly. Forever two after the last splatfest
Dangansona
Member
Most of them I don't mind. I just think once you enter the lobby the whole experience should be better, from partying up to load out switches to voice chat.
That said, I still love Splatoon.
That said, I still love Splatoon.
Frozenprince
Banned
It really is like you have absolutely no capacity for understanding how A) humans interact and B) how co-operative games work.
My friends and I treat multiplayer shooters as co-op games like Diablo, because it's more fun that way.
MikeE21286
Member
Ok just add this....
As someone who didnt play Splatoon 1 I feel like lots of these are leftovers from splatoon 1 and some are used to them.
To me it made the first couple of hours very confusing
As someone who didnt play Splatoon 1 I feel like lots of these are leftovers from splatoon 1 and some are used to them.
To me it made the first couple of hours very confusing
packy34
Member
If you get more enjoyment out of playing games with friends, thats an Abnormal Dependency
it's not bizarre, splatoon has some of the best gameplay of any game out there
lyrick
Member
Cool there's two whole modes for that: League (which is Team based Ranked) and Salmon Run.
One mode doesn't have party matchmaking in public games and it's Turf War.
If you can't enjoy a game because a single "for fun" mode won't let you stomp randomized opposing teams with your friends, then I just don't know.
What the fuck lol. This post is an instant classic.
"I don't feel like playing Friday the 13th unless my friends can play and chat with me."
"Take 2 Lithium a day and call me in a week, you basket case."
packy34
Member
One of those modes isnt available all the time - including right now.
The other requires solo play to even unlock.
Turf War is the main mode of the game. Im tired of being told by you and by Nintendo how I should enjoy playing games.
lyrick
Member
It's available right now.
packy34
Member
Oh boy, that makes up for everything then, doesnt it?
OrbitalBeard
Member
If it bothers you so much, stop playing Nintendo's games.
If Nintendo bothered me as much as they bother some of you, I'd stop giving them money.
Night Angel
Member
Lyrick on the case. Go home everyone, nothing to see here.
What a great solution. Nintendo can't improve anything, people just need to expect less. Lmao
packy34
Member
I care because the gameplay is fun. I complain because I want the game to be better.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Lol
I also can't understand why games have to be so short. Every time the matches ended I was half expecting a message to pop up by a Nintendo reminding me to not play too much and go out.
I agree, also do the weapon switch up either every 12 hours or every full 24 hours. Also no more Weapon Setups where 3 out of 4 weapons can't hit one of the more common and annoying bosses -____-
OrbitalBeard
Member
Nah, I think if you don't feel Nintendo is giving you what you deserve for your money, you should give it to someone who does. Nintendo really disappointed me from around 2013-2017, so I gave them very little of my money during that time.
I actually like the way they do weapons for salmon run :shrug:
yes even that one rotation where it was roller, brush, blaster, and heavy splatling
That's because apologists made it up. There isn't one source from Nintendo that has said that matchmaking takes weapons into account and that's why we cant switch weapons.
Except that isn't always true. I am not sure what causes it, but I woke my Switch from sleep and connected to my phone's wifi hotspot in the car to check out my orders. I had to watch the news segment even though Splatoon was never closed.
I lost 2 ranks cause of it T_T
Da-Kid
Member
Christ does Splatoon have any form of Aim Assist? I find it unbearably hard to actually shoot someone. It's like the joystick to turn has a pre-determined degrees of turn it'll make depending on what sensitivity you use.
Also find it weird how if your cross hairs doesn't have cross on your enemy, they don't get hit. Even if you're blatantly arching your shot to hit them and it is dead centered, point blank hitting them.
Also find it weird how if your cross hairs doesn't have cross on your enemy, they don't get hit. Even if you're blatantly arching your shot to hit them and it is dead centered, point blank hitting them.
Same. I can't really use the charger properly.
Are you using motion controls?
MrCookiepants
Member
The map rotation is so dumb. 80% of my time with the game has been spent on Inkblot Academy. I haven't seen over half of the maps.
Da-Kid
Member
Yes, tried without, it's bad too.
Psychoward
Banned
The map rotation thing will never stop being awful to me.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
In other words don't voice concerns on a game forum hoping for improvements.
Thought that might be the case.
Nope.
I wonder what the reason for that is? It's why it feels absolutely shit using the analogue stick.
With Nintendo having a history of making games that are friendly to newcomers, beginners etc you'd think they'd have some sort of aim assist...
Luckily in Splatoon you don't really need to get pin point accuracy to splat someone, just shoot in the general direction.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
You end up getting good at shooting people more based on instinct and movement than just "lining up the shot". When I'm playing well I'm killing people because I know exactly where they'll be when they round a corner or ambushing them myself from a pool of ink, and when I'm playing poorly its usually because I tried to just "point cursor and shoot"
I don't think that they think they know better. I think Nintendo first party studios simply take an extremely shrewd approach to development cost benefit analysis and choose not to spend development effort on issues they don't believe will significantly affect sales. They've cultivated this "oh shucks, its just nintendo being clueness nintendo, bless their heart" image so well over the years that now they can consistently get away with practices that would lead to forum shitstorms if Activision / Bungie / Sony / etc did the same. I think they just know that most of the people who would be most bothered by the way they operate aren't buying Nintendo products at this point, so why put in the extra effort if your core fanbase will forgive you and love you for it regardless.
Da-Kid
Member
Wow... I thought I was just terrible but no, I'm expected to have great aim with analogue sticks.
At times it actually feels like you're fighting with the controls.
Have you done the campaign yet? Certain levels require pin point accuracy and timing, that is very difficult with the controls. I'm playing handheld so using motion controls makes me feel a bit nauseous with the screen moving, and doing those levels with the tiny joycon sticks had me close to throwing the device against the wall.
Anyone on this forum know why there's no aim assist? I'd imagine it's because they want you to use motion controls, or that the game has been designed with motion as the primary control method.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Nah, you should absolutely voice constructive criticism. I do so frequently.
But if a game like Splatoon 2 is causing you to spout vitriol and accuse anyone who disagrees with you to be an "apologist", "fanboy" or part of a "defense force", you've moved beyond criticism and it would probably be in your best interest to spend your time and money elsewhere.
Probably this, yeah. Motion is clearly the way the game was designed to be played. Playing without motion feels really off and no aim assist is probably a big part of that.
The aiming feels a bit off to me, and I think part of it is the fact that the camera rotates when you walk left or right for god knows what reason.
Da-Kid
Member
Yeah, that's what I meant by it seems like the game has a pre-determined degrees it turns depending on the sensitivity. I always fight with that. I either turn too little or turn too much. It's almost tank like.
Psychoward
Banned
Bruh someone said a criticism and you told them to stop playing Nintendo games, how is that a solid solution. How does one perceive that to be anything other than an apologist fan boy part of a defense force?
haha yeah man. i almost need like an hour-long YT tutorial on just wtf is going on between the 18 currencies, the shards, copying peoples' items....and half the stuff i just sort of randomly find out about. i mean magical discovery is fun but if you're going to allow a menu option, why not put everything in there so i at least know what all's out there?
i'm finally level 10 so was playing in regular online but really loving the gameplay itself though. i finally figured out to copy someone's 3-star item and loaded that as well as my trusty mg and been getting top place in every match for like 15 straight matches. now to get annihilated for my lack of knowledge and likely v crappy gear in ranked
Yep you either overshoot or it's too little, regardless of the sensitivity. It actually feels like you can't fine tune with analogue sticks or make subtle changes. The curve feels all wrong.
I'm sure it's because they want you to do the fine tuning with the motion controls, and not considered making changes for people who turn motion off.
Night Angel
Member
The person you quoted wasn't spouting vitriol. And yet you told them to play something else. You're maybe too invested in defending Nintendo.
OrbitalBeard
Member
He said he was sick and tired of people telling him how he should play his games. No one was doing that.
That's fine if you think I'm too invested in defending a corporation. You're free to think what you'd like about me.
SanguineShark
Member
Honestly, just practice with the motion controls more. Adjust the sensitivity until you find a setting you're comfortable with. It works perfectly fine once you adjust.
This game isn't really meant to be played with sticks (lack of auto-aim says as much). But with time, the gyro controls become a lot better than any auto-aim+stick combo.
Da-Kid
Member
The motion controls really don't help because that regulated to horizontal movement. I feel like I can't keep it still for shit, even with a low sensitivity.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
And it is baffling because I know, we know that shooters can do it on consoles.