brandonh83
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Fuck Finn and Poe. It's all about these guys now.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Fuck Finn and Poe. It's all about these guys now.
ryutaro's mama
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They should've gone with the initial plan, have the Resistance superweapon "Warhammer" that can penetrate planetary shields and send out squadrons of fighters to the atmosphere. This was in the art book. It later got revised into being an anti-Star Destroyer weapon according to the leaked shot list, and then got dropped from the movie entirely.
Would've been much better.
MrMephistoX
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All I have to say is damn this movie is much better on second viewing as a Star Wars fan...first viewing I think I was just too skeptical and waiting for the other shoe to drop and suck...I'm in love with it now and enjoyed the hell out of myself today at Hollywood's El Capitan!
Because i did the same shit 4 times now.
Got burned by the first prequel, said i wasn't going to see the second, did it anyways got burned, bit RT review hype on the third saying it was the best one in a while, got burned.
And once again got burned on this one.
BudokaiMR2
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Just wanna say that as someone who had similar experiences (I was just a few years older when experiencing the prequels) you are completey on point with you aove analysis. The Yoda part In particular has always bothered me, after letting the movie digest for a few days. They made him some fucking little ninja shit when he was supposed to be some zen master samurai at least.
I am not completely against him using a lightsaber but it should have been like some 7th degree black belt kendo master. I actually trained with one when I was in university and it was amazing how FAST he was without actually being fast. There was an efficiency to is movements that none of us young in the prime of our life students could match.
I'd have to disagree with this. It's pretty obvious from interviews that George Lucas is not happy with the direction they went for. They abandoned his original outline ideas for these films.
Bobby Roberts
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Nah, she shoulda just been the baton trooper.
And when Chewie shoots her, she flies backward, but gets up (because her armor isn't just shiny, you see!) and our trio goes "She got up from that?" and then the other troopers round 'em up - just in time for the X-wings to arrive? Now we have a little extra oomph when Chewie tackles her and Finn shoves a gun under her chin and is like "I'M IN CHARGE NOW, PHASMA."
CreepingFear
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Ether_Snake
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I'm sure a scene was cut where Finn gets checked by Phasma and another correctional officer early in the movie. This guy yells "Traitor!" at Finn when he comes out, but one would guess not all Storm Troopers know who he is. I think this guy was supposed to be such an officer or some such who would have been present in that cut scene.
And we're all probably better off because of it.
Do we know what his original outline was?
Fixed2BeBroken
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this explains it in a way that i can keep playing fallout and not type it in my own words
https://m.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/3xczju/theoryspoilers_the_truth_about_kylo_ren/
The entire sequence was bizarrely unnecessary. Why not just have Finn know where the shield controls are and have him and Han turn them off?
Lifejumper
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Focus on an even younger cast I believe.
I call them the Nopetroopers
With the proper captioning, this gif could get a lot of use around here.
Like, for example, the Uncharted 4 review thread.
Ricky Ricardo
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So much truth in this post
Could see it being a fantastic bish gif.
Oh I've already thought of some ideas. I'd rather wait for a high res version though.
Bobby Roberts
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No it's not obvious at all. In fact, the opposite is obvious, because he's on the record as saying he really liked the movie. He's happy with the direction they went. It's just not the direction he'd have gone.
But if he wanted to go that direction HE WOULDN'T HAVE SOLD THE COMPANY.
People hell-bent on pushing the Sour Grapes narrative like he didn't initiate the sale of his company. Lucas isn't getting robbed or snubbed, Lucas isn't upset or angry at the revival of his old company. Lucas is a retired old man who liked a Star Wars movie.
Atraveller
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That's slavery with extra steps.
brandonh83
Banned
Story was never really a problem with George Lucas. Some story details like Midichlorians may have not worked for people, but his actual storytelling structure has been consistently solid. I'm not saying which direction would be the best as I haven't seen his outline, but I doubt it was bad.
Well fuck me sideways, I thought it was CGI. Guess my eyes need checking.um, they giant pig-rhino was a puppet!??!?!
SmackAttack
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What I love most about that scene is how we can gather, just from those two stopping and turning back around, that Kylo Ren has done this before. If there were dialogue between them it would have probably been like "Wait. Yep, here he goes again." or something like that. They just seem used to it.
Abrams story is pretty thin
I have no trouble believing the Lucas outline could have a much more interesting story than what we got, and Clone Wars proved what Lucas was good at. Putting out the ideas and outlines and letting others flesh them out.
I'm not a huge Star Wars guy, but didn't he OK what they did with the Skywalker and Solo lineages in the old EU stuff?
I think that he should have (and probably did) expected Disney to throw most of that stuff out when they announced that they were pushing out a film a year.
Yoooooo
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Also if theories that Benicio Del Toro is cast as the true Villain alongside Snoke. Maybe we will see a Kylo redemption story.
maybe. sometimes I wonder how the PT would have turned out if he had kept out of the director's chair like he did Empire and Jedi.
CreepingFear
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No question, it would have been cgi with George at the helm.
zero shift
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So if he was sent to the academy to train with Luke, why are people in this thread commenting that Han's son "had no training"?
Already Torn
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If it's anti-lightsaber is also anti blaster and anti laser.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Half of them think he's a teenager in TFA so it's not surprising that they would think that.
George wanted to let others direct. He asked Spielberg, Zemeckis and others. Everyone was too scared.
Lucas has known since before episode 1 that directing wasn't his forte.
In baffling thing about the prequels, specially Attack of the Clones, is that a lot of it was actual practical effects but it ends up looking super fake on screen. So even if George had used a puppet, it would have ended up looking like really shitty CGI.
Ether_Snake
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The Star Wars equivalent of these two.
They should really do that actually, that'd be perfect. Never have them remove their helmets, just keep them wanting to stop dealing with all this shit. Maybe at the end of IX you see both helmets being dropped in front of the screen as both walk away out of focus, "Man screw this I'm going back to live with my pop on Tatooine, should have never volunteered for this crap." "You volunteered?! You never told me about this! ... Can I come?" "Sure bro!". Credits.
Crossing Eden
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So I'm absolutely in love with this movie? Currently reading through this thread, will see it a second time tomorrow.
CloudyTuba
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Perfection.
If anything, I think he might have the opposite problem. There are a lot of little plot threads in his movies that really could have been cut; for example, having to cut the shields for Starkiller Base.
Scientist Supreme!
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Eh.
I hope it's not this.
Fixed2BeBroken
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if kylo ends up being like itachi, i think that would be really awesome honestly, and would make TFA more incredible with how it was set up
Clone Wars is really good so I'll give you that.. It makes me wonder if Disney will exactly do something with all the Underworld episodes he wrote.
Yea I believe the art book states it is Slip
Do you mean because of the URL? Are you saying it didn't look like that in toy stores when the prequels came out or what? I received a bunch of those toys as gifts over the holidays, lol.
That's a perfectly fair point and I also should have pointed out for completeness' sake that RottenTomatoes as a site had barely been out a year at the time of the TPM release and internet access was not so ubiquitous in 1999. Widespread adoption of the site was still coming.
That said, I do remember checking the AotC scores after it came out and it has deviated very very little.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Its anus twitches at one point. I wonder if there was a fart gag they decided to remove at the last second.
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