xenorevlis
Member
You think the ad-supported free and premium subscription income will not be shared accordingly by Spotify, with this being integrated as the new default music streaming service on the PS4?
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Spotify coming to PS3 and PS4; Music Unlimited shutting down.
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Yeah. I certainly hear the difference between say FLAC and 320k AAC/MP3. Though its only certain types of music (orchestral music mostly) and I hear it more in my home theatre than I do headphones.
xenorevlis
Member
If it works like the current music unlimited / USB music player, which is when they are active the games that support the OS layer requirements (requests) are running, the music of say, Driveclub, can will not be playing even if it is enabled. Some ports and cross-gen titles, such as Grand Theft Auto, overlap music but I believe it is treated the same as long as there specific bandwidths are planned-for within whatever is handling screensharing, online game play, etc.
The system can also selectively ignore channels that are flagged for copyright, which is why recording with the PS4 share button omits the popular licensed song in the game you are playing.
Beer Monkey
Member
Do you think part of this deal will cater to Spotify by blocking TuneIn from coming to PS4 (it's my most-used PS3 app)? I'm a paid Spotify subscriber, but the Spotify radio is abysmal.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Very cool to have new features but I can't be the only one on here that finds Spotify quite expensive, I mean £120 a year?!, I'm currently on the premium 99p offer they had running and it's a good service but it's not worth that much imo.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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First we will remove youtube and map features from the Vita.
GreyOcelot
Member
yeup. they're basically the only cable company that consistently blocks services like this
Well if no one was using it and subbing then no, they weren't making profit from it.
John Rabbit
Banned
i'm assuming the Spotify premium will work like any other version in that I'll be able to sync my offline content to the PS4? that'd be super swell.
thebigmanjosh
Member
I'm ashamed of you three, Taylor is a National Treasure
OT: What I'm wondering is how Sony actually benefits from this deal. They're eliminating their music service in lieu of a partnership with one of the biggest (and greediest) music streaming services in the business, and offering it at no cost to the consumer.
It's also interesting to see how far we've come since November: http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/swifts-shake-spotify-sony-rethinking-ad-based-streaming/
Crimson_Gold
Member
I'm ashamed of you three, Taylor is a National Treasure
OT: What I'm wondering is how Sony actually benefits from this deal. They're eliminating their music service in lieu of a partnership with one of the biggest (and greediest) music streaming services in the business, and offering it at no cost to the consumer.
It's also interesting to see how far we've come since November: http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/swifts-shake-spotify-sony-rethinking-ad-based-streaming/
They likely have a revenue sharing deal of some sort going on. Spotify gets more customers and Sony gets a piece of the pie while eliminating the costs of running a service that wasn't successful. Sounds like a win to me
More Playstation users using streaming means more royalties for Sony Music? Plus they just offloaded the costs of running such a service to Spotify.
Woodchipper
Member
Awesome news indeed!
Stratosphere
Member
If you sign up for the Spotify 30 day trial, can you still go back in later and apply for the student discount before the auto pay kicks in?
thebigmanjosh
Member
True and True. Didn't even think about how it will expand the userbase, but judging by this thread there are plenty of people who haven't even tried Spotify who will need to make an account in order to use the Sony music serviced. Good on Sony/Spotify for making this happen.
Can't wait for the inevitable "PS4 Spotify Playlist Share Thread"
Dibs on OT 
RadarScope1
Member
That's definitely NOT going to happen. Google Playstation Vue. Sony is launching their own such service.
Tragicomedy
Member
You get access to an almost limitless supply of music for $10 per month (or the Euro equivalent). No, I don't think it's too expensive. It's a huge bargain for music lovers who don't pirate their music. If you listen to at least one album a month, you're getting your value out of it. Some of us listen to Spotify every day.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
so multiple tv service like apps can't exist on a console? oh.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Microsoft to acquire.... Pandora? lol
What's the difference between sling and Vue ? You think they would of added the Spotify app if MU was still around?
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
probably the channels being offered for starters and the locations the services will be available regionally. Don't bring a failing music service into the equation. Netflix, Hulu, crackle, amazon, plex, snag films, vudu HD movies, and epix all coexist together just fine on my PS4 and they all essentially stream movies and tv shows. If music unlimited was actually doing good and there was money to be made off of that and spotify I don't see why they wouldn't utilize both. Music Unlimited failed and spotify is very popular among a broad audience. There will be several new TV like streaming service apps and while Sony will exclusively have there own I don't see why they couldn't or wouldn't implement other 3rd party apps if there is money to be had from them.
Bitch Pudding
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As a premium spotify user (my family loves it!) I am really looking forward to this development. I guess it's better than adding mp3 support
.OnionPowder
Member
I use spotify everyday (using it right now) and it's amazing. It's well worth the $10 monthly sub. They have most bands I could ever want and I listen to a lot of smaller bands.
And yet whenever people try to prove this point I can not only pick out which is the lower quality sample but if it was running on my system I could give you a good estimate of the actual bitrate of the file that you played to me. It's not important to everybody but it is to some and it can just as obvious as the difference between 30fps to 60fps or the difference between a well mastered DVD and a well mastered blu-ray film.
It depends on your setup and also the quality that your used to but to suggest that the difference is negligible is both subjectively and objectively incorrect and it doesn't matter how often people choose to repeat this fallacy, it doesn't become true.
I haven't used Spotify previously but there are streaming services such as TIDAL which stream uncompressed FLAC music files and Spotify advertising their "Extreme Quality" suggests to me that maybe the quality would be extreme but instead it's a less than stellar 320 kbps.
Not everybody wants HD quality music or even CD quality streaming like you get on TIDAL but that doesn't mean it isn't wanted or appreciated by some people.
FriedConsole
Banned
Not familiar with Spotify but it has to be better than Music Unlimited. As a subscriber to Music Unlimited for the last year I can say Music Unlimited SUCKS. So you can create playlists painfully on you PC but you can't use that on the PS4. The "Premium Channels" are repetitious and play the same weird selection of 50 songs. (Folk and Country should not be on one channel as Carrie Underwood should not come after the Boxer by Simon and Garfunkel.) One time it just played the same song twice in a row. The Vita interface is weirdly better than the PS4 version. Spotify has to be better than Music Unlimited. The actual control of adjusting volume and changing songs with the Playstation button menu is actually awesome so I am hoping that this will be used with Spotify. I guess Vita won't get Spotify but I am OK with that now that I have a good smartphone.
I just want to chill to smooth jazz while playing Pure Pool and old school country while playing Super Mega Baseball.
I just want to chill to smooth jazz while playing Pure Pool and old school country while playing Super Mega Baseball.
KingJ2002
Member
Good news... the music unlimited service wasn't the greatest and with the advent of better alternatives such as Spotify, Rdio, etc... there's no point in Sony continuing MU.
I don't assume microsoft would do the same considering they have to compete on different battlefronts with the Xbox Music service... but here's hoping that this deal doesnt exclude xbox gamers from having spotify on their consoles.
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It probably will.
Possibly a revenue sharing deal that gives Sony a cut in profits from all PlayStation users using the service.
I don't assume microsoft would do the same considering they have to compete on different battlefronts with the Xbox Music service... but here's hoping that this deal doesnt exclude xbox gamers from having spotify on their consoles.
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It probably will.
I'm ashamed of you three, Taylor is a National Treasure
OT: What I'm wondering is how Sony actually benefits from this deal. They're eliminating their music service in lieu of a partnership with one of the biggest (and greediest) music streaming services in the business, and offering it at no cost to the consumer.
It's also interesting to see how far we've come since November: http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/swifts-shake-spotify-sony-rethinking-ad-based-streaming/
Possibly a revenue sharing deal that gives Sony a cut in profits from all PlayStation users using the service.
down 2 orth
Member
I would pay $10 for gaming any day, but for music... that's a tough sell.
I'm probably like 1 of 5 people that's actually pissed about this.
I mean, there is probably no friggin' way Spotify will get Music Unlimited's catalog right?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
My MU library and playlists will be sent to oblivion soon
Is there music on MU that you listen to, and spotify doesn't have? Or are you just worried about having to rebuild your playlists?
serversurfer
Member
This costs just as much as Music Unlimited! How can a music service cost more than Netflix, FFS? ><
I was actually in the midst of waiting for MU to offer me another discount; I like the service, but $10/mo for music just seems too steep for music when I get movies for $8/mo. Anyway, I guess it's cool that Spotify have a free option, at least. I wonder if the PS4 will be classified as a "mobile device," or a "computer/tablet."
It would be nice if they had a discount for Plus members to subscribe, even if you had to buy annually. A bundle with Vue might be even better. With a discount for Plus members. lol
I was actually in the midst of waiting for MU to offer me another discount; I like the service, but $10/mo for music just seems too steep for music when I get movies for $8/mo. Anyway, I guess it's cool that Spotify have a free option, at least. I wonder if the PS4 will be classified as a "mobile device," or a "computer/tablet."
It would be nice if they had a discount for Plus members to subscribe, even if you had to buy annually. A bundle with Vue might be even better. With a discount for Plus members. lol
EdReedFan20
Member
Kinda sorta. Music Unlimited did not offer an ad-supported free version, which Spotify does.
EdReedFan20
Member
You mean in terms of PS3 games, right? Because on PS4 the music playback is built into the system software, meaning any game can have background music.
Robot Pants
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Free account is essentially the same as a paid account, but you listen to ads every 4 or 5 songs. Paid accounts also get to download the music to their phones, computers, tablets to listen to offline. For people with limited data on phones, that's a godsend. Your option for limiting ads on phones/tablets is paying money. If you listen via web browser, Ad Block on Chrome negates all the ads. I don't know what DI Radio is, but Pandora doesn't let you listen to what you want to. Pandora has you select an artist and then it tailors song lists to that artist. On Spotify you pick the artists and songs you want to listen to, when you want to listen to them.