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[The Llama]

If anyone decided to challenge this in court, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't hold up. That said, its almost certainly not worth the effort (time and money) to actually do that. Shame.

 

[darkziosj]

Ew.

Didn't FFXIII also have some similar bs that was basically press X to win? Disgusting. And they wanted to appeal to the traditional players they said recently? xd

Add L1 or R1 to change to random paradigms and there u go, seems like SE perfected the system.

 

[Kageshinzo]

One button? Pffft, Earthbound allows you to play with one hand! Lol.

 

[Antoids]

i was hoping this would be related to bravely default and its amazing control scheme

i was wrong

 

[koutoru]

I don't know how to feel about software patents like these.
It's possible it could lead to murky territory.

 

[wanderjahr]

I seem to only remember pressing one button in FFXIII battles...

 

[Kule]

This is basically how kingdom hearts works from birth by sleep onwards. your skills auto rotate and you just press one button. It works really well and lets you focus more on avoiding attacks and blocking.

 

[_Ryo_]

What the fuck?

 

[TheRealTalker]

shit just got real


lol

 

[edoara]

So does this mean other developers can't make single-button combat systems?

What a nice point you've got there. Fantastic news.

 

[Aeana]

They've made this game a bunch of times, in the Seiken Densetsu series.

 

[Hero of Legend]

One button? Pffft, Earthbound allows you to play with one hand! Lol.

Opoona actually marketed you could play with JUST the Nunchuk.

 

[Tomohawk]

Really intriging idea dont know how original it is though. would love to see how it works in an in game setting. as some one who hates menu combat, a game based around positioning to do different spells sounds great.
edit:
seikendentsu does this?
did not know will have to check out.

 

[Aquamarine]

Square Enix awarded US patent for single-button action RPG battle system

 

[leadbelly]

Do a lot of developers do this? Seeing as there are many games that borrow game mechanics from other games, I'm guessing, no.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Final Fantasy XV gameplay video.

As if the series wasn't easy or casual enough.

"Hence, the game is difficult for a beginner of the game to get accustomed to, e.g., he/she cannot fully enjoy the game until mastering the game."

I played and beat the older Final Fantasy games with ease when I barely even knew how to read.

I'm hoping its a fugue design lark and it isn't held up like that; I mean, we're out of the Gen 7 dark ages...I'd hope it won't be at least.

 

[Kuro]

Ew.

Didn't FFXIII also have some similar bs that was basically press X to win? Disgusting. And they wanted to appeal to the traditional players they said recently? xd

Wrong, game required strategy although I'm not a big fan of the system

 

[ATXAlchemy]

I do not care about some dumb-ass patent, Square Enix.

Get busy making a good game.

That's the point of this patent!

Huge influx of phone games incoming!

Everyone (aka non-gamers) will call Square-Enix games good since they will be able to win. Even babbies will be able to finish the Final Fantasy 7 Remake for iOS!

 

[Velcro Fly]

Large parts of the original Kingdom Hearts were get close to target and mash X. Of course you had times where you needed to jump and locking on helped so it wasn't exactly just one button.

 

[Hero of Legend]

THAT is well done! LOL

 

[Shard]

Oh, hey, the mentality that gave us fucking Mystic Quest, thought we stabbed you to death for time immemorial back in the late 1990s.

 

[Nokterian]

Software patents or how to stifle innovation. That shit has to go.

 

[Shard]

EH, this one Square Enix can keep all to themselves.

 

[rpmurphy]

Oh good, this doesn't affect turn-based RPGs.

 

[qualitydisc]

So now that we know that Final Fantasy XV has a "hold button to attack" scheme and contextual attacks based on how close your allies are, is it safe to assume this patent was for FFXV?

 

[vireland]

Slightly less enjoyable than my zero button go-to solution, twitch.tv. S-E is behind the curve on this one.

 

[sappyday]

So now that we know that Final Fantasy XV has a "hold button to attack" scheme and contextual attacks based on how close your allies are, is it safe to assume this patent was for FFXV?

That would mean either Tabata has taken over the direction of FFXV since earlier this year or Nomura went with the idea.

 

[qualitydisc]

That would mean either Tabata has taken over the direction of FFXV since earlier this year or Nomura went with the idea.

They filed for the patent in September 2012 so they've been working with this system since at least then. (If indeed this is the FFXV system)

 

[barit]

Wrong, game required strategy although I'm not a big fan of the system

no it doesn't. you switch paragrim only for heal and to block/tank some heavy attacks. the rest is done with X

 

[wmlk]

They filed for the patent in September 2012 so they've been working with this system since at least then. (If indeed this is the FFXV system)

This is slightly comforting.

 

[Neff]

Someone beat them to it already.

http://www.notdoppler.com/superpressspacetowinactionrpg2009.php

 

[Majukun]

so for them FF XIII wasn't already playing itself enough and they are trying to simplify things even more?

what is this a joke?

 

[GreatestHits]

So does this mean other developers can't make single-button combat systems?

 

[Vashetti]

so for them FF XIII wasn't already playing himslef enough and they are trying to simplify things even more?

what is this a joke?

FFXIII plays itself if you allow it to. Same with XII.

 

[LurkerPrime]

Isn't this the same idea as FreeFlow combat from the Batman: Arkham series? Contextual attacks based on a single button?

(Granted, FreeFlow is a lot more complex than a single button, thanks to counters and gadgets.)

 

[k91191]

Oh, hey, the mentality that gave us fucking Mystic Quest, thought we stabbed you to death for time immemorial back in the late 1990s.

Hey man, I really enjoyed Mystic Quest.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Ew.

Didn't FFXIII also have some similar bs that was basically press X to win? Disgusting. And they wanted to appeal to the traditional players they said recently? xd

Yeah if you don't know how to play the game xd

 

[wmlk]

so for them FF XIII wasn't already playing himslef enough and they are trying to simplify things even more?

what is this a joke?

I think FFXIII is a pretty cool guy. Eh autoattacks and doesnt afraid of anything.

 

[Asd202]

Lol SE are you making games for people that play video games or for people that don't play them?

 

[sappyday]

They filed for the patent in September 2012 so they've been working with this system since at least then. (If indeed this is the FFXV system)

That would mean that the E3 trailers had it as well and Nomura agreed to go with it.

 

[Majukun]

FFXIII plays itself if you allow it to. Same with XII.

since there was no reason to not press auto since there were basically 2 main tactics for the entire game (plus buff and debuffs for bosses),it was only an apparent choice.

but we are OT

 

[Steel]

Sometimes I feel like Square Enix is dead to me. Ugh...

 

[wmlk]

Before everyone follows the herd and acts like this is a crime against humanity, read the first post in this thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=898355

It's not 'Press X to win'. There's a good and a bad way to do everything and this seems like the former.

 

[Slowdive]

So now that we know that Final Fantasy XV has a "hold button to attack" scheme and contextual attacks based on how close your allies are, is it safe to assume this patent was for FFXV?

It seems it's hold for a combo, you can still press a button to attack manually.

This is a good gif. I'll try and use this to compare to the older demo in the notes. If it was played like that, then:

L1 to implement switch as beginning of combo
Circle press to attack
L1 to implement switch
Circle press to attack
L1 to implement switch
Circle press to attack and then hold for chain
L1 to implement final switch
Circle press for attack

Can you see the pause in the gif after the third switch after the first attack with it? That's where I'd press and hold for the remaining chain.

 

[Kalnos]

Kingdom Hearts was a one button action rpg

so true

 

[BasilZero]

Its implementations unfortunately

Some things cannot be undone l0l

 

[qualitydisc]

In the new interview on Kotaku, Tabata says he joined the XV project two years ago, which is almost exactly when this patent got filed.

 

[Teknoman]

I seriously hope this doesnt mean XV will have an ultra simplistic system.

 

[NullPointer]

I thought Molyneux invented this back in '07 for Fable 2.

He invented it in his mind at the very least. And then put it into words.

His goals for Fable 2 include combat that's "so simple that anyone can play it" and that "makes you feel cool," both of which he hopes to achieve with just one button on the Xbox 360 controller button. The X button, in case you're wondering.

(linkage)

 

[johnsavage]

The high I got with the FF XV TGS trailer is now completely gone.