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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Official Teaser

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Solo said:
Thats the point though - I didn't pick it up. And I'd represent more of the casual SW fan perspective. If a casual fan can't place the theme, it's not iconic. Like, any person on earth knows the Imperial March. It's embedded in pop culture. I doubt many aside from SW afficianodos know Rey's theme. I sure don't.
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Jesus, give it a few sequels and also, I don't know.... time? Can't anyone on the internet use perspective or are we all doomed to reactionary hot takes?
 
Vanillalite said:
So this guy
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Funny enough, I commented in the Rebels OT on how Bendu is the Grey Jedi fan wet dream brought to life - neutral and powerful as all hell. But Rebels also highlights that's kind of a problem in a galaxy where evil is quite active, and willing to screw people over. Part of what gives me hope in this really - Disney and LSG have so far shown a preference for 'light side, just not a Jedi' more than they have 'Grey Jedi'.
 
KDash31987 said:
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I'm glad they kept Kylo's saber design. He got it chopped in half at the end of TFA, and I was worried they were going to fall for the same kind of saber one upping the prequel trilogy did with their villain sabers. It was a great design, just keep it.
 
Ridisc said:
Because I dont know, how old was Kylo when the jedi school was torn up and as such could the scene with him in the Rain with his knights be the same scene (albeit earlier) than the one where Luke is with R2 in the trailer? Or would Kylo be too young then.
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In Bloodline, Leia still thinks that Ben is training with Luke and that's six years before The Force Awakens. So probably after that, meaning he'd be in his 20s.
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
that was . . ok?! .. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

The first teaser and official trailer of the first movie two years back had a lot more hype to it. If this wasn't SW, I don't think I'd care that much about it based on the trailer.
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I feel like the first teaser only had more hype because it had been so long since the last Star Wars movies and they did a good job pulling those nostalgia strings.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I'm glad they kept Kylo's saber design. He got it chopped in half at the end of TFA, and I was worried they were going to fall for the same kind of saber one upping the prequel trilogy did with their villain sabers. It was a great design, just keep it.
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Yea, the scar confirms it's not a flashback either
 
XAL said:
Emotion, darkness, compassion, etc - people have all of these things and you have to embrace the light and the dark and walk the middle path.

Luke is probably realizing that trying to restart the Jedi was just repeating old mistakes and that you have to make something new that embraces the entire spectrum of the force.
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In the old (now non-canon) books at one point Han and Leia's son was exploring something like this. It started out very interesting, until they just gave him his "slaughtering younglings" moment, and became straight up evil.

Before that there were also some points where Mara Jade and Luke among others were interesting in a "unifying force" instead of binary light/dark, where they used "dark" powers like Force lightning at times. But that was also disposed of pretty quickly.

I like this idea if they can explore it here in an interesting way.

What I don't like is Bobby's theory about "lol everybody can be a Jedi" or something. Don't mean to dismiss it so casually; I understand what he's getting at in a way, but I don't think that would be a good direction for the franchise. It kind of doesn't respect its history.
 
BreezyLimbo said:
The dark side was never about selfish influence

The dark side was always about using your emotions to invoke the force, even if that meant that negative emotions invoked a stronger Force.
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If it's based on emotions, isn't that that what makes it selfish? Emotions are inward-facing - they're focused on you and how you feel.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I'm glad they kept Kylo's saber design. He got it chopped in half at the end of TFA, and I was worried they were going to fall for the same kind of saber one upping the prequel trilogy did with their villain sabers. It was a great design, just keep it.
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Think of all the money Hasbro will save not having to make new molds for their inevitable toy re-releases.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
I was bullshitting on twitter (surprise!) the other night talking with Steele of Steele Wars, who is really, really craving Luke firing up his green saber as a hero moment in this movie, and I was like "yeah, but what if it's white though."

Like, at first it was just to fuck with Steele, but then I was like - what if his 10 years on a rock in self-imposed exile has basically put him in the same headspace as Ahsoka was post Clone Wars.

I doubt they're going to do it (It'd depend on Filoni introducing the idea to the canon in his show as a means to make it a little more palatable when revealed in the film years later) but it could fit, depending on whether Luke's character really has decided that trying to pursue the Jedi religion is ultimately a mistake, and that a different path must be taken.
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The Jedi 'religion' was only a part of Luke's training insofar as it came from Obi-wan and Yoda. Him ditching that (as it wasn't what made him 'successful' - that was his moral fortitude and willingness to do good) is something I could see, as it apparently was a big part (presumably) of the 'errors' made by him that led to the situation that we're in now.

I don't see how throwing the lightsaber away, or even a color change, really would affect that. It's the 'weapon of a jedi', sure, but it's damn practical even outside of that.

That being said, if he does bring the lightsaber out, I would probably take that as more of an indication that he's going to bite it.
 
Mix Master said:
The fuck are those things shooting that red ink?
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I dont think its the ink, I think its the dust from the planet, see in the gif where the thing hits the earth red comes off at all the places of impact, indicating the thing they are using to hover over the ground is just hitting the dirt and causing the sand(?) to rise up.
 
Going by the trailer, I feel like a Luke/Leia reunion isn't looking likely. The characters seem too separated in their plotlines :(
 
Ogodei said:
Yoda stressed that the prophecy might have been misinterpreted, and i very much think that's the angle Lucas himself was going for. Obviously the Jedi were portrayed as being somewhat in the wrong (it was just hard to see with how much of a whiny bint Anakin ended up being, making it harder to sympathize with him).

I guess the Orthodox Jedi view of the balance prophecy was rooted in their dogma that the Light side of the force was natural while the Dark side was an aberration. The presence of the darkness is itself an imbalance, and therefore destroying the Sith was the act of balance-bringing.

The "plain text" view of balance would be that the two sides must be equal in power for there to be balance, and so Anakin *did* bring balance to the Force by reducing the number of Jedi from thousands to just two, Obi-wan and Yoda against Vader and Sidious.

But there is definitely room for more readings of balance, that spirituality is more than just the clash between Lawful Good and Chaotic Evil, which is certainly something that's been advocated for by many force users in the expanded universe (without taking on Kreia's nihilistic view of good and evil both being stupid).
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The Clone Wars show (which is honestly where Anakin gets the majority of his decent characterisation), makes it a point to show that the Clone Wars had corrupted the Jedi Order. They had simply become a political tool more than willing to sacrifice one of their own for political bartering. They were also strictly Dogmatic to a fault.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I'm glad they kept Kylo's saber design. He got it chopped in half at the end of TFA, and I was worried they were going to fall for the same kind of saber one upping the prequel trilogy did with their villain sabers. It was a great design, just keep it.
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Absolutely agree.
 
Rian Johnson is a masterful director. I know it's premature but I have a good feeling based on this trailer that this will be better than Empire at least in terms of cinematography. Every shot of this trailer was like a piece of art.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I'm glad they kept Kylo's saber design. He got it chopped in half at the end of TFA, and I was worried they were going to fall for the same kind of saber one upping the prequel trilogy did with their villain sabers. It was a great design, just keep it.
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Me, too. Worried for his helmet, though. It's clearly seen better days in this teaser.

I like that helmet.
 
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