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[Heisenberg007]

What is wrong with you? You seriously can't go go out and just get a SS, it's so cheap.

Or better yet just download the gamepass app on a smart device.

Or you can spend countless hours of your life downplaying everything Xbox.

I have a PC where I play these games, and where I plan to play Starfield. You can stop projecting now.

Stop presuming.

I play plenty of Xbox games. Your problem is that you project and point figures and throw tantrums as that may seem like the easiest way to shut up people -- to circumvent genuine complaints against genuine issues.

Even my wishlist has Xbox games in it.

You do not have a monopoly on Xbox games. Anybody can play, like, dislike, talk about, or complain about those games. Grow up.

 

[Pelta88]

Probably doesn't own an xbox, right Pelta88 ?

You were in the acquisition thread, venting about how criticism of XBOX negatively affects your mental health. I would advise you to avoid anything that triggers those feelings including users expressing their thoughts on gaf.

 

[Montauk]

Has something interesting leaked? I don't want to read the whole thread

Imagine if you weren't lazy.

Yeah, some gameplay has leaked. That's interesting.

 

[DenchDeckard]

You were in the acquisition thread, venting about how criticism of XBOX negatively affects your mental health. I would advise you to avoid anything that triggers those feelings including users expressing their thoughts on gaf.

Great answer to the question, buddy. Don't worry spiderman is only about 2 months away now...and people like myself who buy everything get to enjoy awesome games on all platforms. I can't wait for that game.

It wasn't negativity towards xbox that messed with my head it was the Sony shills that can't handle anyone else having a good game.

I actually really like Sony and their consoles but fanboys from any side give me piles.

 

[cormack12]

For reference, this is the load time that's causing the latest concern.

Looks fine, the alternative would be what Hogwarts did with the loading circle on the doors which was terrible UI design.

 

[Morrie’s wig shop]

I have a PC where I play these games, and where I plan to play Starfield. You can stop projecting now.

But what is wrong with you? That's the question.

Why would you compare Outerwilds with Starfield why? Are you a video game programmer, engineer in computers, IT, do you code? If so how would you do this different. Because this comparison throws any credibility you thought you had out the window.

Who's steam page is that anyways?

 

[sinnergy]

Looks fine, the alternative would be what Hogwarts did with the loading circle on the doors which was terrible UI design.

That's a bit more than 1 second in Star field as fast as a portal in Rachet and clank .. I don't see the problem.

 

[Heisenberg007]

But what is wrong with you? That's the question.

Why would you compare Outerwilds with Starfield why? Are you a video game programmer, engineer in computers, IT, do you code? If so how would you do this different. Because this comparison throws any credibility you thought you had out the window.

Who's steam page is that anyways?

You should read those comments again. I didn't bring up Outer Wilds. The guy I responded to did.

 

[Gambit2483]

The people just woke up in late August 2023 and realized Starfield was running on Creation Engine 2.0?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Elder Scrolls 6 is confirmed to run on this same engine. It's a modified, improved version of the engine. Same way UE4 is a modified, improved version of UE2.

looking forward to plaintive complaints in 2028 when ES6 is about to ship.

Weird to argue that an expansive game with deep RPG elements, space travel, massive handcrafted cities and 250000 lines of dialogue will only provide immersion if doors don't have loading and if you're allowed to walk forever.


Lol @ the $70 callout. For the money, I'm not sure how many other games out there will provide you the value of a flagship Bethesda RPG.

And the creation engine shouldn't be used in that game as well.

Data sreaming isn't a new tech by any means but the creation engine SUCKS at streaming data quickly. Having a game engine that excels with data streaming is why a game like TOTK can stream 3 different planes without a single loading screen and as such has a high level of immersion.

Creation engine was ok for games 20 years ago based in medieval times but its not suited for a space exploration game that forces you to walk around a gigantic planet before constantly loading you into the next areas.

The money call out is to highlight expectations in 2023 of what a game can or can't do on an extremely powerful console. When other games can do it, it's not the console holding it back.

 

[Morrie’s wig shop]

You should read those comments again. I didn't bring up Outer Wilds. The guy I responded to did.

Good, when the game releases we can compare notes and help each other out in the OT.

You need help in Ori with something? And why would you sit on Hi-Fi Rush like that?

 

[clarky]

Are we at the Lazy dev's point of the salt cycle yet?

 

[Montauk]

You should read those comments again. I didn't bring up Outer Wilds. The guy I responded to did.

I brought it up as an example of why "immersion" isn't important to making a good game.

You then bizarrely used it as a good comparison point for what Starfield should be able to achieve.

Are you actually trolling? Seriously.

Anyone can see how crazy it is to point at such a drastically and fundamentally different game like OW and then use it as a stick to beat SF with is.

 

[Ozriel]

And the creation engine shouldn't be used in that game as well.

Data sreaming isn't a new tech by any means but the creation engine SUCKS at streaming data quickly. Having a game engine that excels with data streaming is why a game like TOTK can stream 3 different planes without a single loading screen and as such has a high level of immersion.

Creation engine was ok for games 20 years ago based in medieval times but its not suited for a space exploration game that forces you to walk around a gigantic planet before constantly loading you into the next areas.

The money call out is to highlight expectations in 2023 of what a game can or can't do on an extremely powerful console. When other games can do it, it's not the console holding it back.

Waiting for you to list the other console games of similar scope as Starfield that we're supposed to compare it to.

What 'extremely powerful console' do you refer to?

forces you to walk around a gigantic planet before constantly loading you into the next areas.

Wut?

 

[M.W.]

Link to video clips.

Easier to access this way. I know you don't like the site but hey, it's gameplay.

 

[ManaByte]

Link to video clips.

Easier to access this way. I know you don't like the site but hey, it's gameplay.

Or you could just link where the asylum got the clips from

 

[Montauk]

You out here acting like every triple A dev isn't padding the shit out of their games. It's not just ubisoft and you know deep down Sony is recently the most guilty of it. Ghost of tsushima, Horizon forbidden west, spider man...all games with tons of ubisoft padding of weak side quests. Hod of war ragnarok...far too long and an abysmal depiction of ragnarok... and I only bring up Sony because I know who you shill for and how much your bias shows.

Final fantasy xvi...terrible side content padding. The game you said deserves a 9.5 out of ten but has small areas, no open map at all and loading screens between zones. The most insulting side content in recent years and you're out here saying developers need to focus on quality not quantity And WE should demand more from developers? Your hypocrisy is as see through as acetate.

Are you picking up this game on pc? It is probably the most awaited game this year after all.

Ghost of Tsushima almost put me into a coma.

Got to like 18 hours, it was incredibly samey samey with a lifeless story to boot.

I was feeling very fatigued by the game so I did a search and read some comment saying it could last 35+ hours and said NOPE I'M DONE and stopped playing there and then.

 

[ajanke]

For reference, this is the load time that's causing the latest concern.

This doesn't bother me at all

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Local map of landing area:


Pissing off security lol:

 

[Montauk]

For reference, this is the load time that's causing the latest concern.

An even more devastating development on what I said earlier:

Todd Howard has just announced he is retiring with immediate effect from the industry.

He wrote that "the enormous unforgivable failures highlighted in this brief clip have caused me to reconsider my position at Bethesda and indeed my career in gaming itself. I leave in disgrace. I'm sorry."

Sad!

 

[BobbyColtrane]

If this is what you want, go play No Mans Sky! Its been out for years, been updated many times, and its still boring as shit.

 

[adamsapple]

Local map of landing area:


Pissing off security lol:

First run always the nice space-jesus.

Second run the ultimate space-dick.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Local map of landing area:


Pissing off security lol:

Looks like Gamebryo alright.

 

[M.W.]

Looks janky af, but to be expected.

 

[SenkiDala]

Stop presuming.

I play plenty of Xbox games. Your problem is that you project and point fingers and throw tantrums as that may seem like the easiest way to shut up people -- to circumvent genuine complaints against genuine issues.

Even my wishlist has Xbox games in it.

You do not have a monopoly on Xbox games. Anybody can play, like, dislike, talk about, or complain about those games. Grow up.

I mean looking at those "played 27 minutes, played 30 minutes" you maybe own the games but barely play them. That is useless to buy games to keep your online streetcred, just buy the games you are willing to actually play.

 

[clarky]

Looks janky af, but to be expected.

Wouldn't be a BGS game with the trademark jank!

 

[sinnergy]

Local map of landing area:


Pissing off security lol:

He has a pin at the lower left corner but scroll back fast to that cluster ? Why?

 

[Montauk]

I honestly can't believe the speed of these announcements coming out of MS now.

Satya Nadella has emailed Microsoft Gaming employees to announce that the now cancelled Starfield will be rebooted, with all existing assets and code being destroyed.

The development of the replacement title will start immediately and it will be called No Man's Sky of Star Citizens.

It will be co-developed by Hello Games and Cloud Imperium Games with assistance from The Coalition and Certain Affinity.

It is scheduled to release somewhere between 2030 and 2035.

He also had much more shocking and distressing news for MS employees: as punishment for the industry-shaking failure of Starfield - which has been fully cancelled days before release - Xbox Gaming boss Phil Spencer will commit hari-kari in front of the Microsoft HQ in Redmond.

The katana with which Spencer will end his life has been hastily crafted out of the melted down metal parts of the special edition Starfield Xbox Series X units. Satya saw this as a fitting punishment for Spencer's failings and one that will satisfy the furious Xbox community and 'concerned' gamers everywhere.

In a powerful move Nadella said that Spencer's disemboweling will be live-streamed to the world on MS' formerly abandoned live-streaming platform Mixer, which MS are resurrecting just for this grim occasion.

Just truly astonishing and historical announcements flowing thick and fast now.

My thoughts are obviously with Phil Spencers family…but I have already preordered the $400 Ultra Space Odyssey edition of No Man's Sky of Star Citizens.

 

[SHA]

I can't remember the name of the specific game, but the way the upper body and lower body look like they move on two different swivels reminds me of an old, yet well liked PS2 game.

PS2 set the standard*














For Bethesda games.

 

[DenchDeckard]

We all know deep down that those saying they'd prefer 100 planets with more content on them are the first people that would be saying no man's sky had thousands of planets 7 years ago...

The salt is so real, more than anything I've seen this gen

 

[ManaByte]

The salt is so real, more than anything I've seen this gen

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

The games gonna be great, I have no doubt. But review scores will be heavily inflated due to it being a new Bethesda ip.

 

[MagiusNecros]

More excited to explore Derelict ships then exploring planets. Need my Alien/Metroid fix.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

You can't land on water. This is concerning.

 

[MMaRsu]

Im out of this thread and wont be posting here anymore due to leaks

 

[Gudji]

Im out of this thread and wont be posting here anymore due to leaks

Todd Howard is the final boss. You're welcome.

 

[TheBomb]

I had my doubts, but will see.

 

[ByWatterson]

You have absolutely no intention of supporting this game or its fanbase

Bro

 

[Heisenberg007]

I mean looking at those "played 27 minutes, played 30 minutes" you maybe own the games but barely play them. That is useless to buy games to keep your online streetcred, just buy the games you are willing to actually play.

I give games a chance but drop them if I don't enjoy them. Why should I continue playing the games that don't hook me?

I love the Ori series and have finished all of them; I recommend them at every chance I get. I didn't enjoy others, so I dropped them.

 

[clarky]

LOL Yeah can the boundary nonsense stop now? Like why would you just keep going into nothing?

 

[Montauk]

I give games a chance but drop them if I don't enjoy them. Why should I continue playing the games that don't hook me?

I love the Ori series and have finished all of them; I recommend them at every chance I get. I didn't enjoy others, so I dropped them.

Strange.

I don't recall it being possible to seamlessly leave the atmosphere of the planet in that, after you've walked from one side of the planet to the other.

Why even play those games?

 

[Raven77]

These games? Very vague. What games? Which specific games are both like this (Starfield) and like whatever titles you're talking about?

Who has managed to combine what you're apparently missing from NMS here, with a complex RPG?

Can you list these titles?

I understand what you're fantasising about, but you're talking as if this is stuff that has been done or is easily achieved. Like Bethesda could have just easily made what you're imagining?

So where are the other examples?

Even then, if you got what you wanted, what would be the point of it? I look at Star Citizen and I think "what is the point of all of this, where is the game?"

So you can see a point on the horizon and you can go there oh your ship. Or you can walk there and it takes, I dunno, 2 hours.

Why? What's the point? What will be there? What will be on the way? How will you replicate any of this on 1000 planets or 100?

What is the gameplay purpose in an RPG of looking at a spot miles away and walking there for 2 hours?

It sounds like it's purely so you can say "it's possible" and then you feel "immersed" and then…..what?

I'm taking about Bethesda games - Fallout and Elderscrolls. A hallmark of them is exploration of the landscape.

IF the landscape is not consistent, then that sense of exploration is now more limited.

Guess we'll find out later this week.

 

[solidus12]

Journey did it better

 

[Ristifer]

See that concerning narrative? You can push it!

I don't really have a dog in the fight, but some of the bellyaching in here is downright embarrassing. It's hard to believe people wake up and come in here to actually try to dampen excitement or push something for their own masturbatory experience.

 

[Montauk]

I'm taking about Bethesda games - Fallout and Elderscrolls. A hallmark of them is exploration of the landscape.

IF the landscape is not consistent, then that sense of exploration is now more limited.

Guess we'll find out later this week.

Nah sorry. Nah. Completely pointless response. Not the question I asked you.

Flopped. Next.

 

[Gudji]

LOL Yeah can the boundary nonsense stop now? Like why would you just keep going into nothing?

Holy shit that's a lot of sand.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Loading screens between doors in 2023 blockbuster RPG?

wtf

Funny that Skyrim in 2011 can have no loading between doors but this can't.



Hopefully the same dudes that made open cities can save us in Starfield, as Bethesda can't again.

 

[bbeach123]

LOL Yeah can the boundary nonsense stop now? Like why would you just keep going into nothing?

A little bit pop-in for my liking . Hmm , I dont remember fallout 4 pop-in this much ? Or have my memory deceived me .

 

[LostDonkey]

The thing that annoys me the most from footage that I've seen is the facial animation and lip syncing.

Everything else looks incredible.

 

[Heisenberg007]

The thing that annoys me the most from footage that I've seen is the facial animation and lip syncing.

Everything else looks incredible.

Those have been the weak points of Bethesda games since forever, but visually Starfield does surprise in multiple areas - even smaller details. For example, I really like the texture of the jacket in the following video, at least during the non-playable conversation part:

 

[amigastar]

Those have been the weak points of Bethesda games since forever, but visually Starfield does surprise in multiple areas - even smaller details. For example, I really like the texture of the jacket in the following video, at least during the non-playable conversation part:

Graphically it looks nice for a Bethesda game, even the facial animation looks good. although i haven't seen very much of the game. Facial Animations look just as good as BG3.