Go read the comments from the showcase video. It is overwhelmingly negative including the feedback in this forum and on social media.
Age has nothing to do with it, take your PS hat off and stop defending mediocrity. Sony does not have you on the payroll.
Little Devil Inside is a kickstarter from 2015 that should have released in 2016:Lil Devil inside saved it from a flat-out F for me.
You are defending a show which was rated D or worse by 80% of the people in this thread, and you have the balls to call other people wrong headed.
All because I dared to say that a 30 minute commercial full of indies is bad. Get a grip.
Sony released their quarterly fiscal report today and broke many historical records again. The opinion of youtube video from a few guys in a forum doesn't mean anything, they have over 100M MAU and we're only a tiny part of them.You know shit's fucked when even the biggest Sony fans only give a C.
The summer was pretty awesome, Ratchet was my GOTY until Metroid Dread arrived.I posted a thread the other week about it being so hard to buy a PS5. From that show, there's no rush.
It sounds like you'd be buying a XSX based on what is coming in the future even though we haven't seen those games on action yetNot exactly first year, but at least Halo is going to launch. I don’t have an Xbox that’s why I say that. And Xbox at least showed some future titles like Avowed, TES, Starfield and all that.
I do have a Ps4 Pro and so far Sony hasn’t given me a reason to upgrade, God Of War and Horizon are still launching on this machine so yeah. Nothing from ND, or SP which are the studios I’m looking forward to the most (it’s a matter of opinion I know).
Xbox hasn’t exactly shown them, but if you buy a Series now you know what you will get, even if its still far away. With Sony, I have no idea. For me a console is something to last a while and I refuse to buy one out of “what might come”. Dunno if it makes sense, but i does on my head. But it’s mostly because I already own a PS4 Pro and cross gen is still going.
I miss this sony from a few years ago : (
shawn and jacky t were just on another level. There was a real excitement around the brand, now they just rest of their laurels and take the nintendo route of doing the bare minimum
Indies are 3rd-party.Sony should do a better job explaining what kind of content to expect in these things. They said "third party", but they really should have said that the focus was "indie" games. They would have changed my mindset entirely going in to this.
I didn't watched on the day so I took my time today to watch it.
Well it was what they promised and what I expected.
Focused in 3rd-party with some really good trailers.... including some games I should pass but got my interest again.
Indies are 3rd-party.
It is just a name the media made up to small studios but they were always 3rd-parties and called like that for most of videogame story... you can related it to 2nd-party studios that was a made up name to cover 3rd-party studios that were developing 1st-party games.
It is marketing.
Sony should do a better job explaining what kind of content to expect in these things. They said "third party", but they really should have said that the focus was "indie" games. They would have changed my mindset entirely going in to this.
We all know the difference between an indie game and an AAA game and both can be third party. And I'm obviously talking about small Indies like the trailers we saw.
We all know? You're literally rewriting the definition of "indie game" to anything that's not AAA.
The point I was making was that not all "third party" is the same and Sony should have been more specific about what to expect. I didn't rewrite the definition of anything.
Honestly. Are State of Plays ever really considered exciting or good? I rarely see anyone say positive things about them and why should this one be any different?
At this point, all Third Party is essentially the same.
And if you are saying that the only games that should be on State of Play streams are titles from EA/Ubisoft/Activision/Bandai Namco/Capcom/Square Enix/SEGA... you might want to adjust your expectations.
At this point, all Third Party is essentially the same. The gateways of publishing have been obliterated by digital distribution. Now, even a single person can become a publisher, and their game can potentially be a global hit. Meanwhile, the actual publishers are publishing very little and producing only a few core franchises in-house. Or, they are picking up "indie" games (which used to happen back in the old days, only we didn't call it "indie" when a publisher picked up an independent developer's spec project) and promoting them as unique titles. What does it matter if you are published by Focus Home Interactive or THQ or some other slap-a-label-and-box-it company, or you go it alone and release your own product? Your game is still a Third Party product, it'll still be listed along name-brand games alphabetically on the digital shelf and it's still got the same route to promotion on PS Blog / Xbox Wire / Nintendo Direct as any other game on the platform.
Is The Ascent an indie game? It's one of the best-looking games out now, but Curve Digital is not a big publisher. What about Black Myth: Wukong? That game doesn't have a publisher yet, but it runs on UE5 and boasts incredible next-gen technology. Was I Am Setsuna an indie? That game looked a decade out of date but was made inside Square Enix. Was Battletoads indie? That game was 2D Flash animation made on the cheap, but Microsoft and Rare had it made. How about Bright Memory Infinite. That's a game made by 'just one man' and published by a dojingame company, but it's been promoted by Microsoft and NVIDIA. is Fortnite indie? It doesn't look very pretty to most hardcore gamers, and Epic Games is independent, but it pulls in billions of dollars a year.
If your definition of indie is just any game that's too small and unexplosive for you to care about, that's how you see it, but that's not something that "we all know".
And if you are saying that the only games that should be on State of Play streams are titles from EA/Ubisoft/Activision/Bandai Namco/Capcom/Square Enix/SEGA... you might want to adjust your expectations.
He is technically right. Majority of those games were from fairly large gaming companies and probably cost a couple million to make. These were simply the AA to "indie" size games. Saying indie doesn't really mean much these days. Sounds like you guys just wanted AAA third party games in this state of play.Wow you got triggered hard. Dude was literally saying expectations could have been managed better by Sony and I think most here agree.
It’s nice to see AA making more of a comeback this generation. Agree the distinction between ‘indie’ and AA is harder now. It is clearer what isn’t AAA, and I think the lack of AAA was a letdown from a ‘newsworthy standpoint’. Not that AAA is any better (but we have lots of threads on that). With Sony being generally quiet, any SOP gets attention and hope for something more broadly compelling. Them saying it is third party helps, e.g. we won’t see ND’s factions. But it still leaves some hope that FF16, Cod Vanguard, Spiderman avengers DLC, something PS exclusive for GTA3 will get shown or announced. Or something new AAA teased. Not that everyone would care but it would give a bit heft to an event of announcements. On the indie/AA shown: Death’s door May have been the best game shown, but for those with Xbox or Pc it’s a late release. Little devil inside’s gameplay seemed uninteresting and a letdown (to me anyway) from the interesting aesthetic and humour in the prior trailers. So I would say the quality of what was showed and the absence of something more mainstream/noteworthy were at the core of its failure as an event.He is technically right. Majority of those games were from fairly large gaming companies and probably cost a couple million to make. These were simply the AA to "indie" size games. Saying indie doesn't really mean much these days. Sounds like you guys just wanted AAA third party games in this state of play.
This. There wouldn't have been any disappointment had they been more specificSony should do a better job explaining what kind of content to expect in these things. They said "third party", but they really should have said that the focus was "indie" games. They would have changed my mindset entirely going in to this.
Only a tiny few have been decent or good, the Horizon Forbidden West one was good and the one featuring FF7 remake was ok. I can't remember the rest lolHonestly. Are State of Plays ever really considered exciting or good? I rarely see anyone say positive things about them and why should this one be any different?
He is technically right. Majority of those games were from fairly large gaming companies and probably cost a couple million to make. These were simply the AA to "indie" size games. Saying indie doesn't really mean much these days. Sounds like you guys just wanted AAA third party games in this state of play.