I was always too lazy for this. But I could start to archive the older threads. I save a lot I just like to read, because it's interesting or funny.Oo
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STEAM | January 2015 - Steam GOTY results: Delayed
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i am checking the site now
and you can buy from G2A directly or buy the game cheaper from the matketplace inside G2A
maybe the banning and game revoke because of those seller and not from G2A directly ?
for example , there is a weekly sales page , only G2A sell those games and no sellers
and you can buy from G2A directly or buy the game cheaper from the matketplace inside G2A
maybe the banning and game revoke because of those seller and not from G2A directly ?
for example , there is a weekly sales page , only G2A sell those games and no sellers
Well, G2A appears as oficial youtube ads as well(the ones that pop up to the right of the video) and even appears on GAF ads as well. I can't exactly blame people that think the site is legit.
Nyteshade517
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I meant Amazon as far as buying directly through them...you're right, as soon as third party people are involved all bets are off so people should try to be as informed as they can be
But that's the point, it's harder to be informed than you might think. I mean, on the surface, you'd think major streamers and game sites like RPS would be safer places to get referrals from than a random internet forum. Not to mention, plenty of people on this very thread still purchase from G2A because "it's worth the risk" or don't realize it's a bad site until the link they post comes up as a banned site.
Personally, I think that's why we still see such a large amount of sales directly on Steam even when things are available cheaper elsewhere. Most people who aren't fully informed are going to play it safe and just buy directly from the source.
Yeah, when THQ went bankrupt. They had the #2 bid as I recall, though it wasn't really even close to the winning bid.
You can't copyright a game design, so I don't think MB can do anything. For that matter, it's been so long since HeroQuest came out that anything that was trademarked has probably lapsed.
Not so much the game design as the logo and art that's, if not a 1:1 copy, incredibly close to the original's =p (especially the DM wizard)
And anything GW was involved with (and HeroQuest was basically off-brand Warhammer) gets trademark-watched like a hawk.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
You're absolutely correct. One of the things I wanted to make sure of when building Enhanced Steam's "Find the lowest available price" feature was that it would never link out to any shady sites or sites with unauthorized keys. Even still - a few times a week I get an email similar to "I found this particular game cheaper on G2A / Kinguin / RussiaMart so you should totally add that site because it saved me a lot of money". Sometimes I even get the site owners to email me and ask me to include it - along with an offer of games and/or cash if I agree to. If I didn't think they were shady before...
There are even a few sites that IsThereAnyDeal.com tracks that I feel don't belong in Enhanced Steam. Either because my own purchase didn't go smoothly or because I've heard a lot of horror stories from other users. So, to a certain extent, I feel like it's been "my job" at times to check on the legitimacy of some of these sites so that making a purchase through Enhanced Steam's links should be an easy and pain-free process that results in you getting a legitimate game key that's come from a legitimate business deal that the developer or publisher has been compensated for.
What I'm really trying to say is that "yes - it can be incredibly difficult sorting out the legitimacy of some of these sites, and most regular users wouldn't usually bother to put in the amount of research into these site's backgrounds as they should".
Would almost be funny if that font was owned by someone. From what I can tell though, "obvious rip off" isn't illegal so long as the assets are actually new. Especially on something this old.
Funny thing is, I never knew HQ had anything to do with Warhammer until now. I certainly don't remember it ever being advertised as such.
Well, my comment wasn't so much "this is illegal" as "GW aggressively C&Ds anything that comes near their IPs or even smells like it"
And yeah, it wasn't really widely advertised as such, but it was obvious for people in the know when you looked at the races and some of the maps.
Yeah, many are focused on finding chapest deal, not doing any research on seller. Many are even willing fully using these sites knowing they sell keys from 'shady' origins, just because it's few cents cheaper.
The Red Wizard
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Never forget the RPG GOTY list salt.
Well, my comment wasn't so much "this is illegal" as "GW aggressively C&Ds anything that comes near their IPs or even smells like it"
And yeah, it wasn't really widely advertised as such, but it was obvious for people in the know when you looked at the races and some of the maps.
Fair enough. Hopefully it lasts long enough to get bundled, I'd be curious to try it. I have fond memories of the board game but I'm sure some of that is nostalgia.
Justice for giving that guy views.
Not a fan of what Ubi is doing anyway. Not sure what they can do about it either.
Then give these internet celebrities the shit and not Ubisoft, when it is once in the right.
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crazyrabbits
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There's plenty of blame to go around.
If I were the brass at Ubisoft, I would have penned an open letter discussing the generalities of illegitimate resellers and having something to the effect of, "As of January 31, 2015, the following retailers are authorized by Ubisoft to conduct transactions concerning our products on our behalf", followed by a list (Steam, Amazon, etc). I'd also warn customers to check if their games were purchased by G2A, file a chargeback and a claim with the BBB/local business bureau and wait a few days before deactivating the keys.
Then again, this is Ubisoft, the company that typically handles its business and game development like a bull in a china shop - with no subtlety or grace whatsoever. They deserve all the bad press they get.
Kurt Russell
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Well, Valve deactivates keys in the same way as Ubi, so it's not just them.
Not even.
"They leased a car from a leasing company, and it turned out the car was stolen so the original owners took it back." is probably the closest analogy with today's software licenses.
Considering that G2A are aware of it, and refusing to act until they receive a screenshot of a response to a ticket to Ubisoft explaining why the games were removed, I don't see them acting properly in the end.
At least you'd have some legal recourse against a local car lease company.
Sadly, people can't really bring something in Russia/China to court easily.
Well, yes.
The point was that the original hammer simile is broken as fuck on all points
I guess. I didn't purchase the keys, they were a gift -- my friend already said he'll dispute through paypal if they don't refund him in the end.
Oh man steam screenshot is alive. There's a weird blur effect with God Hand on pcsx2 that I don't know how to fix, I got rid of the ghosting but it adds a small white bar to the edge of the screen
btw I've made my first successful thread focused on important and serious issues on gaf, although it's in OT, but you guys should participate because I think it's relevant to most here.
btw I've made my first successful thread focused on important and serious issues on gaf, although it's in OT, but you guys should participate because I think it's relevant to most here.
crazyrabbits
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In mass quantities like this? Rarely.
The last time Valve revoked keys en masse (the SpaceChem beta, I think), one of Valve's support personnel had to publicly apologize to the game's discussion board for sending a false-flag signal that made people think their accounts were going to be banned.
All I'd expect is some communication from Ubi, that's all. Thank God I never bought from G2A, despite people on other sites (coughreddit) recommending it.
You don't really have any legal recourse when it comes to stolen property. Said pawn shop or whatever might give you a refund, but if they didn't sell it to you fraudulently, they aren't obligated to, especially if you bought it as is. And yes, it's all licenses, but all that means is basically "Ubisoft can do whatever they want," and while that might be legally true, it doesn't mean most companies actually act that way, even them.
Not quite sure why you have this perception. Valve revokes keys all the time, for a wide assortment of reasons. Many of us in this thread have had keys revoked (myself for the "free" GamersGate purchase of Warlock II). And I didn't get a notification from either GamersGate or Valve as to why it happened, it just happened.
Not quite sure why you have this perception. Valve revokes keys all the time, for a wide assortment of reasons. Many of us in this thread have had keys revoked (myself for the "free" GamersGate purchase of Warlock II). And I didn't get a notification from either GamersGate or Valve as to why it happened, it just happened.
AHA-Lambda
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They deal in illegal keys, I doubt they'll act proper now.
Dragon1893
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Yeah, I avoid every "list thread" like the plague.
Those "games I'd choose aren't on the list so it's shit" posts are so incredibly arrogant.
Some people get downright offended, it's insane. Like they're expecting the tastes of some random people to perfectly align with theirs and then are surprised when that's not the case.
Sniper Elite 3 was big news last year, over 7000 keys were revoked on Steam.
http://www.joystiq.com/2014/06/30/over-7-000-stolen-sniper-elite-3-steam-keys-revoked/
Kurt Russell
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Yeah, I was thinking about that when I posted. Dirt 3 keys were also revoked some time ago.
They were stolen from one retail distributor, then resold to multiple companies.
Not every reseller got hit, either. CJS wasn't in that case, for example.
I remember that a few dozen pages ago people saying that 4pack copies are now region locked. This is false. Copies spawned from a 4pack are still region free. What changed is that 4packs can no longer be aqquired as gifts(unless that option is left open by the developer)
It's a banned site on r/gamedeals. You may have seen some individual idiots suggesting it, but the same is true on gaf.
crazyrabbits
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I am aware. I was actually going to go into GG's terrible stance on price errors (including Warlock and the Temple of Osiris debacle, the former of which I dealt with as well), but deleted it because it felt tangential.
The key word was "in mass quantities". I am also aware of the Sniper Elite 3 removal, but I'm under the assumption that this is affecting a lot more people than that. All I'm asking for is some communication. I expect that digital storefronts rarely (if ever) need to respond to consumers regarding key removals because they're representing a lot of different companies/want to correct a price error/etc. I don't expect it from publishers who should know better than to yank a bunch of keys out sight unseen and not expect that people would start trashing them, regardless of whether they knew the keys they purchased were illegal or not.
I have also read that Ubi wouldn't want to publish a list of authorized sellers because they have exclusivity deals with certain sites for pre-order DLC/better discounts/etc. I still think they should have given consumers forewarning before pulling the rug out under them. Just because Valve doesn't let people know when they're revoking keys, doesn't make it any more acceptable.
I thought they did, but only one type of key? They were selling two types like special edition and normal or something, from what I remember.
I think it would help if they sent a better notification, yeah. The issue with resellers at the moment is, people who don't follow the news as much, probably won't know. Especially with how Kinguin/G2A are sponsoring streamers and tournaments. Plus the publicity from other sites like Reddit, Hot UK Deals etc.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The "does this site sell battlenet keys" test has never failed me.
Thanks for that, Blizzard.
Thanks for that, Blizzard.
G2A does in fact sell battlenet keys.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
As does any other non-reputable site.
i'm actually the same, most of my life was on the computer for everything, work, watching shit, listening to music, by instinct I have been trying to stay away from it and I really love reading books and mangas physically, I jog during weekdays, but god damn 90% of the stuff still takes place on a computer where I sit and stare at it.
As far as I'm aware (from quick googling and some skimming, but I might be wrong), they didn't get hit, but they did a hyperbole blog post about how Rebellion were revoking "hundreds of thousands" of keys to fix the market by going after sites like them.
I could be wrong, though.
It's been ages since it happened, and I'm old
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