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[Fenror]

Headcrab!

 

[Freeman]

Looks like the SOURCE 2 symbol.

 

[Burt]

If you don't like the Prodigy then I just don't know

Don't worry. PC's are flexible.

Man, I just want a case that doesn't look like a poorly designed transformer, doesn't glow, and doesn't show me its guts.

That bottom one looks like the 25 year old dehumidifer in my parent's basement though.

 

[dock]

It'll be hard to get too excited about Steam Machines until Greenlight is dead, and publishing isn't gated so stupidly.

 

[Dmented]

This will be the case I use for my Steam Machine:

Clearly it is a match made in heaven. (Yes that's a real PC case.)

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112392

 

[Durante]

Man, I just want a case that doesn't look like a poorly designed transformer, doesn't glow, and doesn't show me its guts.

 

[kharma45]

This will be the case I use for my Steam Machine:

Clearly it is a match made in heaven. (Yes that's a real PC case.)

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112392

It even moves too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiFY9gQSWM0

 

[heelo]

I'd like to know how in your crazy brain you consider over 50 million Steam users a 'flock'

Do we have any statistics on the number of Steam users who are running on integrated graphics or other mobile GPUs.

My personal experience is that the majority of people who use Steam do so on their school/professional machines, and don't buy gaming-specific HW.

I feel like mainstream tech media used to give significant coverage to the GPU market but no longer do, and I think that speaks to a decline in enthusiast gaming on the PC.

 

[joe2187]

Anyone else have a problem booting up Steam Big TV mode? I start it up and steam crashes and shuts down, Also it shows everybody on my friendslist owning every game I have.

 

[RulkezX]

Anyone else getting

Your request could not be submitted, try again later.

When trying to fill in the beta form ?

 

[ElFly]

Ugh why does it say LIAN LI on the front eeeeeugh.

 

[kharma45]

Anyone else getting



When trying to fill in the beta form ?

Been getting it for ages, I'll probably leave it until tomorrow.

 

[Burt]

There we go

 

[InsertCredit]

Quick q. Does Big Picture mode handle non-steam games?

 

[Fox318]

This will be the case I use for my Steam Machine:

Clearly it is a match made in heaven. (Yes that's a real PC case.)

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112392

ALL ABOARD

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKERS

 

[Ultra Magnus]

But I only have 3 friends on Steam.

Add me: Sofa King Awesome

 

[Shengar]

In other words, Gaben try to blue the line between home console and PC eh?

 

[NinjaCatfish]

Quick q. Does Big Picture mode handle non-steam games?

You can launch non-Steam games that you've added shortcuts to in your library.

 

[Ricker]

Anyone else have a problem booting up Steam Big TV mode? I start it up and steam crashes and shuts down, Also it shows everybody on my friendslist owning every game I have.

Just used it to start playing Skyrim and had no problems...

 

[Ebomb]

Buy a steam machine to play games via big picture mode on your living room TV! On Friday, we'll show you the controller you can use to get your ass kicked by all the non-living room steam players using their mouse and keyboard. Its going to be great!

 

[Shaanyboi]

headcrab? headcrab

 

[Americanmushroom]

Yeah i dont get the excitement for this. Hardware will not be as complete and customizable as a real pc ( probably... im speculating of course). You wont be able to know if games in the steam store will actually be good looking with your box unless you're a hardware geek. I dunno, i guess you can compare it to what Android is.. Except here we tqlk about big computer games.. Hardware is more important for the next AAA game than fpr PvZ2 on a tablet.
I guess what im trying to say is: no fixed harware makes it just look like pc's with an other OS than Windows

 

[elementalsin]

We need Major Nelson to give us his opinion of this reveal.

Sony beat everyone to that punchline way back in Feb.

A beta announcement with no 'real' info really disappoints SIGH GABEN SIGH

 

[BobLoblaw]

I just can't get hype without more information. If I can't upgrade the hardware as often as I want, alt-tab during game play, play at better than 1920x1080 res, etc, then what's the point? I get being able to play on your tv, but why would hardcore PC gamers give up their desktop for a closed system?

 

[maniac-kun]

Yeah i dont get the excitement for this. Hardware will not be as complete and customizable as a real pc ( probably... im speculating of course). You wont be able to know if games in the steam store will actually be good looking with your box unless you're a hardware geek. I dunno, i guess you can compare it to what Android is.. Except here we tqlk about big computer games.. Hardware is more important for the next AAA game than fpr PvZ2 on a tablet.
I guess what im trying to say is: no fixed harware makes it just look like pc's with an other OS than Windows

A GF 680 GTX is about twice as fast as the PS4 GPU. So that problem is solved.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

I just can't get hype without more information. If I can't upgrade the hardware as often as I want, alt-tab during game play, play at better than 1920x1080 res, etc, then what's the point? I get being able to play on your tv, but why would hardcore PC gamers give up their desktop for a closed system?

Its not really made for Hardcore-Gamers or enthusiasts just as ourselves.

 

[TheHollowNight]

Do we have any statistics on the number of Steam users who are running on integrated graphics or other mobile GPUs.

My personal experience is that the majority of people who use Steam do so on their school/professional machines, and don't buy gaming-specific HW.

I feel like mainstream tech media used to give significant coverage to the GPU market but no longer do, and I think that speaks to a decline in enthusiast gaming on the PC.

Steam does hardware surveys pretty frequently.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

 

[Dmented]

I just can't get hype without more information. If I can't upgrade the hardware as often as I want, alt-tab during game play, play at better than 1920x1080 res, etc, then what's the point? I get being able to play on your tv, but why would hardcore PC gamers give up their desktop for a closed system?

It says you can upgrade the hardware. It's not a closed system.

If you're already a PC gamer then this isn't really for you unless you want a living room system and/or want to use Linux which may have it's own benefits in the future.

 

[Caronte]

I just can't get hype without more information. If I can't upgrade the hardware as often as I want, alt-tab during game play, play at better than 1920x1080 res, etc, then what's the point? I get being able to play on your tv, but why would hardcore PC gamers give up their desktop for a closed system?

It's not a closed system, you can upgrade it.

 

[RulkezX]

Been getting it for ages, I'll probably leave it until tomorrow.

Turns out you can't leave any blank fields, I just put N/A in the State field.

 

[maniac-kun]

I just can't get hype without more information. If I can't upgrade the hardware as often as I want, alt-tab during game play, play at better than 1920x1080 res, etc, then what's the point? I get being able to play on your tv, but why would hardcore PC gamers give up their desktop for a closed system?

Its still a PC. You can do anything you want with it. Its in the FAQ. Its not a closed system at all.

 

[Alien Bob]

Yeah i dont get the excitement for this. Hardware will not be as complete and customizable as a real pc ( probably... im speculating of course).

You wouldn't have to speculate so much if you learned how to read

Can I hack this box? Run another OS? Change the hardware? Install my own software? Use it to build a robot?
Sure.

 

[InsertCredit]

You can launch non-Steam games that you've added shortcuts to in your library.

Great. So as long as the game supports controller input you'd be good to go sitting on the comfy couch?

 

[Waaghals]

Yes , that for me is a big turn off. the whole: different specs for different people thingy. How are games ever gonna be optimized to your hardware? Laggy harware after a couple of years. Developers are also gonna push less hard to be compatible for more steammachines. Angry bird pc editions coming

The whole graphics race isn't as big a deal as it used to be; budget concerns have more or less tied it to console hardware. I think we can assume that the Steambox will be running something somewhat beefier than an Intel HD4000 or whatever, so it will probably be fine for quite a bit longer than 2 years.

Also the whole "optimize for a specific system" is pretty overrated anyway.

 

[Ultra Magnus]

2014. I don't want to wait that long. :-0

I feel you. Soon to me means end of the week

 

[Shengar]

I just can't get hype without more information. If I can't upgrade the hardware as often as I want, alt-tab during game play, play at better than 1920x1080 res, etc, then what's the point? I get being able to play on your tv, but why would hardcore PC gamers give up their desktop for a closed system?

It's not closed, and it is like totally dedicated PC for gaming than anything. But I don't get the hype too since mouse+keyboard is better for many PC games.

 

[d1rtn4p]

No way that image could be a controller huh? That's what I'm expecting for a third announcement...

 

[Americanmushroom]

You wouldn't have to speculate so much if you learned how to read

true, i read it and forgot about it. yeah so its pc's.. anyway... getting away from this thread cause i feel the Valve guys are here to be arrogants with me. just stating an opinion. you dont have to be condescending.

 

[megabytecr]

Don't understand the hate.

If you have a PC, then you can either dual boot to get the features from SteamOS, or get a thin client to run SteamOS and stream your games to anywhere you want.

If you don't own a PC, you could decide to go SteamMachine only, or same as above, so the SteamMachine will work basically as a Vita TV.

I am curious about the gains in performance and who comes aboard for the SteamOS exclusive features.

 

[Caronte]

Its not really made for Hardcore-Gamers or enthusiasts just as ourselves.

It's not for casuals either, unless they get all the big franchises.

 

[maniac-kun]

It's not closed, and it is like totally dedicated PC for gaming than anything. But I don't get the hype too since mouse+keyboard is better for many PC games.

Mouse & Keyboard are supported by the Steambox. At least read the damn steam page.

 

[kharma45]

Turns out you can't leave any blank fields, I just put N/A in the State field.

Ah, cheers! Worked first time that time!

 

[Shadowhaxor]

You wouldn't have to speculate so much if you learned how to read

Sad but true. In the end it's still a PC and you can do whatever. This is just a push to get the Steam Machines into the living room / home theater rooms with unified hardware and hopefully at a reduced price.

 

[evlcookie]

So the last day sounds like it will be their new controller and VR.

Good week for Valve announcements, even though most of it is still shrouded in secrecy for now.

Now it's AMD stream time.

 

[Stike]

Well, if you can install SteamOS on pretty much every hardware, I got an idea for power AND great design hehe

 

[iamshadowlark]

Steam Machines are not fixed spec and every game released on Steam will not be required to run on all Steam Machines.

So whats the point again?

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

By the time this (at this point mythical) SteamOS box would hit the market, PC hardware will have far outpaced what's inside a PS4. What's more, one would presume that a SteamOS box would be optimized for gaming/streaming/etc tasks. Maybe not as streamlined as a PS4, but more than enough to outclass it graphically.

Is this line not supposed to start next year? That's practically zero time. If we were talking 2-3 years off, definitely, but certainly not months from today.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

The thing inside the sun is a headcrab

 

[Chairmanchuck]

It's not for casuals either, unless they get all the big franchises.

It will take some time. It wont just happen in months, but I could see that in 2-4 years along the line they jump into it.
Valve even said on monday they have AAA-devs on it.

And I guess a lot of the old 360-gamers, that just played multititles could be interested in it.

 

[Baron_Calamity]

wait, so does this pretty much mean PC gaming is on life support? I mean if now PC games need to target certain specs... whoa.

PC gaming, no.. windows domination of pc game, probably and honestly, its time.