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[NaM]

4 months from now your PS4 won't be able to play PS3 games.

ICE COLD.

 

[Caronte]

I have a question:
I have a laptop which is 4-5 years old and I was thinking of replacing it next year.
I don't play games on it because mine is not powerful enough for a lot of games 5I would if it was powerful enough though)
Also, the screen doesnt work anymore (all black) so I hooked it up to my tv.

What I'm wondering is if someone like me, who uses a computer a lot but not for games should also be interested in SteamMachines ? Or is it very specific to gaming, ie you won't be able to use programs such as Ableton live or FL Studio for example ?

Should someone who uses his PC mostly for the internet or office tasks (but who is willing to play some games on pc) go for a traditional PC or a steammachine ?

I'm guessing this machines will focus on GPU and not CPU. If you want it for other things I wouldn't buy this (unless it's just for Facebook and Youtube).

 

[Americanmushroom]

sorry to the 3 of you. I see my pc gaming friends upgrading every couple of years so i thought it was kinda necessary. Steambox is awesome i just cant understand how a 300dollar pc ( or steambox) could be more powerfull than a ps4 or xbox one.? serious question, no trolling

 

[MechaZain]

I have a question:
I have a laptop which is 4-5 years old and I was thinking of replacing it next year.
I don't play games on it because mine is not powerful enough for a lot of games 5I would if it was powerful enough though)
Also, the screen doesnt work anymore (all black) so I hooked it up to my tv.

What I'm wondering is if someone like me, who uses a computer a lot but not for games should also be interested in SteamMachines ? Or is it very specific to gaming, ie you won't be able to use programs such as Ableton live or FL Studio for example ?

Should someone who uses his PC mostly for the internet or office tasks (but who is willing to play some games on pc) go for a traditional PC or a steammachine ?

I think it's aimed at people who use it almost exclusively for gaming. For you it would be like buying a Wii to watch Netflix.

 

[Momentary]

Naughty dog, sucker punch, etc are only on PS4.

Except Sony is looking to PCs now too. So.. who knows.

 

[Yawnier]

I'm very curious as to what the prices on these things are going to be, because if the prices are half-decent I could see myself buying one of these sometime since my current PC can't run a lot of newer/modern games that aren't indie.

 

[lazer_bean]

I'm guessing this machines will focus on GPU and not CPU. If you want it for other things I wouldn't buy this (unless it's just for Facebook and Youtube).

I think it's aimed at people who use it almost exclusively for gaming. For you it would be like buying a Wii to watch Netflix.

ok I wasn't too sure so thanks guys, that was helpful

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Not sure what to think about this. I have a PC so it doesn't seem like it's for me.

 

[TheBear]

I've been waiting for this announcement for some time now.
It's a lot more underwhelming than what I would've expect from Valve. Wait and see I guess.

 

[model13]

stop using a control method that is a complete joke.

Except the keep stating that SteamOS is designed for TV play. Yes I know they support Kb/M but why are you posting comments like this when the whole service is based around controllers?

 

[apana]

Alienware and other companies already sell gaming desktops, will this come at a cheaper price for equivalent power?

 

[Quadraphonic]

Alienware and other companies already sell gaming desktops, will this come at a cheaper price for equivalent power?

Competition = lower price.

 

[RJT]

Not sure what to think about this. I have a PC so it doesn't seem like it's for me.

There are plenty reasons why you should be interested in this:

1. If your PC isn't connected to the TV, you'll be able to buy a cheap device to stream games to the TV.

2. If your PC is connected to the TV, you can install a free low overhead OS tailored for the TV, therefore you should start to see a performance bump (once the drivers situation is solved, and both nvidea and AMD seem to be on board). No new hardware needed.

3. Valve is promising new input methods. At the very least, you will have a de facto standard gamepad for the PC.

4. Windows free gaming.

5. Standard hardware specs. Developers will have target specs they should support. Consumers will know which hardware they need to play each game.

 

[Slavik81]

Alienware and other companies already sell gaming desktops, will this come at a cheaper price for equivalent power?

Doubtful. This is about setting standards for HTPCs. The only significant savings might be the Windows license, which is not all that expensive for OEMs anyway.

Competition = lower price.

The PC hardware market is already cutthroat. Margins are generally slim.

 

[Crayons]

I'm in for my 1 in 242 chance (so far). Wish me luck!

 

[cookie-monster]

I'm sorry I still don't get it.

We had Big Pic for a while. Playing on a TV is not a novelty anymore.

I can't put it much simpler. A games machine is for playing games on, not looking at. My guess is it will look like a metal box, very likely brushed metal or black.

 

[Linkhero1]

Is this an actual device that I can play games on or does it just go hand-in-hand with SteamOS meaning I have to have a dedicated gaming rig or pc to run steam off of?

 

[Berordn]

Is this an actual device that I can play games on or does it just go hand-in-hand with SteamOS meaning I have to have a dedicated gaming rig or pc to run steam off of?

You can play games with a Linux port on it.

 

[Linkhero1]

You can play games with a Linux port on it.

So it's an actual machine I would be able to install linux ported games on? I understand that it's all linux based.

 

[MrCunningham]

I got myself a Steam Machine badge.

 

[Coolwhip]

This could be pretty cool. But let's see first. Valve is hyping this unveil up, but so far it's a whole lot of nothing.

 

[RJT]

So it's an actual machine I would be able to install linux ported games on? I understand that it's all linux based.

We don't know how compatible SteamOS will be with existing Linux software, but we do know that it'll be an open system. Worst case, someone has to port the software to this particular distribution.

 

[Brofist]

Naughty dog, sucker punch, etc are only on PS4.

Funny how once Sucker Punch was purchased by Sony their catalog of forgettable mediocre games became instant classics.

 

[childplease]

Funny how once Sucker Punch was purchased by Sony their catalog of forgettable mediocre games became instant classics.

Tell me about it.

 

[DrSlek]

I have joined the holy legion of beta eligible.

I give myself to Lord Gaben, body and soul.

 

[Grief.exe]

Is this an actual device that I can play games on or does it just go hand-in-hand with SteamOS meaning I have to have a dedicated gaming rig or pc to run steam off of?

There are multiple tiers of Steam machine.

Cheaper ones for Streaming and media, more expensive ones for dedicated gaming.

They are meant to be an open platform. Upgrade the hardware, install whatever software you want, dual boot windows, whatever.

 

[Linkhero1]

We don't know how compatible SteamOS will be with existing Linux software, but we do know that it'll be an open system. Worst case, someone has to port the software to this particular distribution.

There are multiple tiers of Steam machine.

Cheaper ones for Streaming and media, more expensive ones for dedicated gaming.

They are meant to be an open platform. Upgrade the hardware, install whatever software you want, dual boot windows, whatever.

Sounds intriguing. A shame that they aren't giving any more info regarding specs of the machines.

 

[RJT]

Agreed... I was expecting more info from today's announcement. What we got was basically only confirmation of all the educated guesses we had already made.

 

[Grief.exe]

Sounds intriguing. A shame that they aren't giving any more info regarding specs of the machines.

Probably because they won't be released until mid 2014.

By then we might have the die shrink of the Intel CPUs, new 800 series GPUs, and 9000 series is out next month.

What I am getting at is PC hardware shifts dramatically on a regular basis.

 

[Nzyme32]

hmm even I'm lost and sceptical now. how exactly will a steam machine be cheap and capable of taking on the new gen of consoles? I'd have to assume the performance gain on steamOS are pretty big.

All I can see are companies going for the mad profit

 

[jet1911]

Joined the beta participation group thing, I don't have high hopes to be chosen lol

Naughty dog, sucker punch, etc are only on PS4.

The only exclusives that matters right?

 

[Jibbajabbawockky]

I am hyped for this. While I have a nice gaming PC now, I've been debating whether to upgrade my existing gaming PC or build a smaller form factor gaming PC to use with my TV. Now I can upgrade my PC in good conscience and either get a cheaper Steam Machine PC for my TV or even just a super cheap streaming box Steam Machine.

 

[toddhunter]

I've been waiting for this announcement for some time now.
It's a lot more underwhelming than what I would've expect from Valve. Wait and see I guess.

It is about what I expected. There is no way Valve could suddenly manufacture, sell and support a hardware platform. It'll take a lot of time and a lot of partners doing the work.

I think it'll be interesting to see how this progresses alongside increasingly powerful mobile devices. Despite being a good thing for more traditional PC manufacturers...I wouldn't be investing in stocks just yet as I see this almost as an interim measure before all out games are beamed off a tablet or similar.

 

[Linkhero1]

Probably because they won't be released until mid 2014.

By then we might have the die shrink of the Intel CPUs, new 800 series GPUs, and 9000 series is out next month.

What I am getting at is PC hardware shifts dramatically on a regular basis.

Well, it seems like they're only testing the waters now. I'm talking about the specs of the beta machines but I'm guessing they want to keep that under wraps until they finalize everything after the beta.

 

[Anticitizen One]

Anybody need friends? I do! please add me Captain_EO

 

[Momentary]

Valve + NVIDIA? Valve + NVIDIA


http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/09/25/steam-rolling-into-your-living-room/

Engineers from Valve and NVIDIA have spent a lot of time collaborating on a common goal for SteamOS: to deliver an open-platform gaming experience with superior performance and uncompromising visuals directly on the big screen.

NVIDIA engineers embedded at Valve collaborated on improving driver performance for OpenGL; optimizing performance on NVIDIA GPUs; and helping to port Valve’s award-winning content library to SteamOS; and tuning SteamOS to lower latency, or lag, between the controller and onscreen action.

 

[Korosenai]

So with a Steam Machine, could I potentially run Dolphin on Windows? I only have a macbook right now but i've been wanting to try Dolphin out for a while. If this is possible i'm there day one.

Oh, and I need some friends on steam! Add me: Nub in a tub

 

[Minsc]

The only exclusives that matters right?

When the post he's responding to is "forget PS4" the only exclusives that tend to matter are the PS4 ones you'd be forgetting. So pointing those out makes perfect sense

 

[Gamerloid]

Probably because they won't be released until mid 2014.

By then we might have the die shrink of the Intel CPUs, new 800 series GPUs, and 9000 series is out next month.

What I am getting at is PC hardware shifts dramatically on a regular basis.

Exactly. With PC hardware, you can't really announce specs since they're constantly being upgraded. I expect some specs when the beta Steam Machines are soon to be shipped.

 

[vasametropolis]

So with a Steam Machine, could I potentially run Dolphin on Windows? I only have a macbook right now but i've been wanting to try Dolphin out for a while. If this is possible i'm there day one.

Oh, and I need some friends on steam! Add me: Nub in a tub

You could run Dolphin on Windows, but I hear the Linux version of Dolphin is just as good. I don't know first hand, but many people are very happy with the Linux build.

 

[zoku88]

Linux build seems fine to me. I've only played one game on it, though...

 

[Horse Detective]

I was hoping to get more information than this, but the fact that they are focusing on making it a viable option for people with different types of machines excites me more.

 

[Dmax3901]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the third announcement being about input? Wearable computers?

 

[10k]

Well I already run my PC hdmi out to an av receiver which outputs to my tv in my man cave but I am always interested in new technology.

 

[Jzero]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the third announcement being about input? Wearable computers?

gamepad.

 

[Sibylus]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the third announcement being about input? Wearable computers?

The trackball biometric controller that I covet so much.

 

[NJDEN]

Already got my SteamOS DvD cover made : P

http://njden.deviantart.com/art/SteamOS-DvD-Cover-402889073

 

[VillageBC]

O+O

I'm guessing some kind of Kinect/PSEye clone. Looks like some kind of glasses.

 

[Anticitizen One]

With everyone dumping windows based PC's for superior Macs it makes sense for Valve to quickly bring PC gaming to the living room with their own mainstream console

 

[SquiddyCracker]

You are now one out of 65,309 eligible beta candidates.
Good Luck!