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Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3
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Oh dammit... It made my day
Slateboard
Neo Member
Can she be the main antagonist?
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Visual aesthetic, not story-wise. Nomura's a fan of Baz's style, which is visually appealing. That's different than picking a specific story/plot. Nomura's an artist, hence he's going to be inspired by other visual media. Just because one of Baz's movies IS Romeo+Juliet is beside the point. Had Baz never done that movie, but still did the others, I'm sure Nomura would still be entranced by the spectacle.
Also, I recall people drawing comparisons to Luna's hair and Juliet's hair in the movie. Note, that's post-Stella stuff, right there.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Man I can't wait to see more of the story and especially see that artwork from ATR in game at Gamescom.
Couldn't agree more with Ishida. People are just stuck in their own fantasy of what Versus XIII was supposed to be.....
Couldn't agree more with Ishida. People are just stuck in their own fantasy of what Versus XIII was supposed to be.....
If there is one concept that I could remove from all of Japanese storytelling and Japanese culture entirely, it is this ridiculous "your true friends are the ones from your early childhood" (osana-najimi) nonsense.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
We knew several details from the gameplay, story direction, game systems and story details that have changed since, hell it changed since the proper re-reveal.
Basically Versus XIII dosn't exist anymore, except some very general concepts.
GatticusFinch
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DiipuSurotu
Banned
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Wow not @ E3? Dumb -__-
I won't lie, I also had my "head canon" fantasy of what Versus XIII was all about. I had it for almost 9 years.
But I understand it was nothing more than that: Speculation and fantasy on my part.
Gameplay system seems to be the biggest change between the two games. But the plot? Besides Stella and the sequence of events of the invasion.... Everything else seems the same. THAT is why I don't understand all the drama, and the slippery slope arguments.
This was the best Versus XIII trailer because the way everything comes together in that scene, the music and everything. So good.
Final Fantasy Vesus 13 DKS3713 Trailer
(3:50 if you just want to get to that scene)
GODAMN !
Altered Juice
Member
Megidolaon
Member
It seems like Nomura's bailed on this and is just gonna focus on KH. I really hope KH3 doesn't suck or go thru as much development hell as this game. Just give me a chessy friendship story with some Toy Story, Frozen, Pocahontas and a fun battle system and I'll be happy.
Btw it's kinda funny how they're now blaming the Italian guy for Cindy's design lol. Cindy while goofy is the least of my concerns.
Btw it's kinda funny how they're now blaming the Italian guy for Cindy's design lol. Cindy while goofy is the least of my concerns.
Slateboard
Neo Member
In my personal experience, the biggest fans of VS XIII were also really fanatical Kingdom Hearts fans, and the ones I have talked to went pretty crazy with their theories and such about it. Which translated to being crazy about VS XIII as well.
I think it's as you say, that people set themselves up for disaster.
DustyVonEric
Member
The best way I can explain it is, Squaresoft was pure Disney. Magical. And damn near every game was an amazing experience, not just Final Fantasy.
From rpg's to shooters to fighters. Not the Bouncer though.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
I agree with you. There's very little we ACTUALLY know about this game. What we "think" we know and what we actually know is two different things, and people have the knack of thinking something from nothing quite a lot. Just like how things called "tech demos" are proof of some game that's in the works. For FFXV, I think Square revealing Versus too soon(hell, before it was even beyond it's concept stage) and leaving everybody in the dark enabled a LONG period where people's imaginations ran wild based on every little thing they THOUGHT they knew about the game, based on speculation.
Leafhopper
Banned
For all you know she became a damsel in distress later in that version of the game.
Pretty much. And this is coming from a really hardcore KH fan.
I dare anyone in this thread to tell me about all the "massive changes" of the plot between Versus and XV. I would like someone to list all the actual changes in the storyline.
Stella: She was royalty/princess of the kingdom of Tenebrae. She met Noctis at a party. She is eventually forced to fight Noctis due to unknown circumstances.
Luna: She is a noblewoman (Princess? We don't know) from the kingdom of Tenebrae. We don't know how she met Noctis, maybe they are childhood friends. We don't know if she fights Noctis or not.
NoctisVsStar
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yup, i agree with Ishida too cant wait for gamescom!
I have to admit, i also doubted you when i was just a lurker, that article i didn't want to believe, but you had the sources right the whole time.
When you guys said canceled, i was thinking we'd never see the game again, it seems i misinterpreted it. They really DID basically take assets from Versus and just re-purpose them for an entirely different game.
Ahh so thats where it was from. They should do a short scene of this for the fans and out it on YouTube.
He was force off by SE higher ups.
Leafhopper
Banned
We may have lost Stella, but we got Cindy. I consider that an upgrade!
You know what you have unleashed don't you?
PetriP-TNT
Member
Lmao. I was the first one too!
Damn Flutter you pushing the tears hereYou were too beautiful for this world.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
It wasn't supposed to be anything, the game was in pre-production for several years and we got enough details of how was going to play, story directions, characters, overworld, battle system, etc...
Another thing is that Nomura could delivered the game they have designed, but to think that Versus was just supposed to be something after 9 years of production is ludicrious.
In the Versus 13 world, she was to be the second most important character after Noctis, a skilled fighter, princess of tenabrae and gifted with the same powers and abilities as Noctis.
She herself was essentially the reason why the game was called Versus.
She was on the opposite side of a conflict between Noctis's country and an opposing faction, and they were on a crash course, forced to fight each other even though they didn't want to.
Now...she's no more. We have a character who looks similar. And the fact that the character we've had drilled into our heads from the concept stage is just scrapped in place of one we don't know anything about leaves people a bit agitated.
All we know is Stella is gone for good, and in her place is Luna.
I hate exaggerations like this.
The relatively underfunded and inexperienced polish team made TW3 possible.It has swimmng,an open world and real action combat.
Nomura's team is far mo
re adept at making action games (easily the most experienced at SE) and they could've made the game they wanted.
Square's upper management was a carastrophe from 2006 tp 2013 and once matsuda saw the versus situation,he saught to shake it up.
That's why we're not getting versus.Not because it was impossible to make.
JuanLatino
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while i can understand that people are dissapointed and sad by all these changes & the fact that they will never play that game from 9 years ago....they shouldn't blame Tabata for it.
Give Final Fantasy 15 a Chance and see it as a new game. It still sounds promising and great by what we heard so far...Open World, cities, driving with a car, promised a Deep Storyline with man shocking momemts (Thats what Tabata said) and a unique world thats mixing fantasy with reality!
While its not my most wanted game anymore...Im still looking forward to this game
Day1
Give Final Fantasy 15 a Chance and see it as a new game. It still sounds promising and great by what we heard so far...Open World, cities, driving with a car, promised a Deep Storyline with man shocking momemts (Thats what Tabata said) and a unique world thats mixing fantasy with reality!
While its not my most wanted game anymore...Im still looking forward to this game
Day1
LowParry
Member
The differences are so small yet that's it (Bottom line is, we don't know major details between the two. And probably never will)? This is what people are getting upset for? Eeeesh. People should be upset that we have to wait another month for more XV instead of E3. But hey, when that day comes, I guess we'll see people hop on board again. Hell, Kagari. What are you going to do? Keep the avatar? Find something else?
Megidolaon
Member
Saaaaame here. It's not necessary to have that alllll the time.
I see. Man sounds like a lot of drama over at SE. Yipes.
I wonder if the Near death experience thing/light of expiring souls aspect is still gonna be in. I remember thinking that sounded cool. NDE is something I hadn't sen in an RPG before. And it was supposed to be a tragedy iirc. I guess we'll see.
I know. It's ridiculous. People are already sure that Luna will spend the entire game on a dungeon screaming for help.
Why? Because she does that little "I'm determined!" japanese gesture during a 3 second footage.
That's it.
Black Republican
Member
Who is Nomura?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
New SE janitor and when they let them he does design collaborations with other companies properties.
Leafhopper
Banned
Sora.
I think she's known this for a while.
Ito's roomate in SE basement.
UltraGunner
Banned
Just confirming my suspicions. The atory is getting rewritten to the point that it's unrecognizable feom it's original premise
It's crazy they would eliminate a character entirely.
Ex SE employee who's opening up a fashion line.
Ex SE employee who's opening up a fashion line.
Yes, for months now.
This wasn't the only skeleton in Tabata's closet either. I wonder if he'll ever share the rest.
RIP Stella, she's putting me through hell'a right now 
However I will give their vision of Luna my trust for now. I will actually reserve judgment on EVERY info announced today until the promotion blowout at Gamescom.
What makes me wonder.....will SE hold their own event at Gamescom too? Sony won't be attending......maybe they'll do a theatre presentation for XV?
Oh and the underwater segments talk got me super excited, too bad it most likely won't happen.
However I will give their vision of Luna my trust for now. I will actually reserve judgment on EVERY info announced today until the promotion blowout at Gamescom.
What makes me wonder.....will SE hold their own event at Gamescom too? Sony won't be attending......maybe they'll do a theatre presentation for XV?
Oh and the underwater segments talk got me super excited, too bad it most likely won't happen.