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You know what else worked for the majority of audiences? Voting for Hilary*.
Ok, I think we need to all calm down.
You know what else worked for the majority of audiences? Voting for Hilary*.
You know what else worked for the majority of audiences? Voting for Hilary*.
You can't hide behind "everyone else liked it, why didn't you?" As an argument against why we are criticizing the film, we can differ on our opinions sure, but everyone is entitled to have a point of view without being attacked as wrong.
*I am Canadian.
It enjoys toying wih its victims.At the end of the movie she isn't scared of him because she had defeated her father, but the bathroom scene where she is enthralled in hair etc, she is scared shitless and should have been dead as this occurred long before facing her dad.
She somehow escaped before her dad came rushing in, its not like he interrupted it.
I cannot rationalize why bev was not offed during the bathroom blood explosion other than plot contrivance
That's not what I wrote, not what I argued, and not what anyone else arguing with you is saying. You didn't address the point I made nor the example I gave. It's like you are reading people's posts, hitting Delete, and writing what you want them to say instead. If you're going to continue this line of discussion stop being so disingenuous.That argument doesn't work because it kills Patrick and some other kid. It is killing so yeah that is clearly the argument.
Also, calling it a "failing" is hyperbole. The movie works for the majority of audiences. I wasn't scared of the movie and thought it had great tension and very enjoyable.
Ok, I think we need to all calm down.
..You're drunk.
This is implied within the first 5 minutes of the film when Georgie is scared shitless at the thought of going into the cellar and seeing It's eyes stare him down as he grabbed the boat for his brother. It could have killed him there, but It likes playing the game and fucking with people.
It's eyes were glowing straight at Georgie.Pennywise wasn't in the cellar. That was just Georgie scaring himself.
Pennywise wasn't in the cellar. That was just Georgie scaring himself.
Its one thing seeing a child get murdered in a horror movie but seeing the child grasping for life is just heartbreaking, something about Georgie crying for Bill and trying to get away only for Pennywise to stretch his arm and finish the job just makes it sad and terrifying. Salting the meat indeedAlso I was not expecting them to go full R with Georgie. That screams as he's crawling away were pretty fucking disturbing.
It's eyes were glowing straight at Georgie.
This shot was recalled again when Bill went down into the cellar himself later down in the movie when he saw Georgie's apparition.
That's not how I interpreted it when It's eyes themselves emit a glow and It's capable of creating illusions. It, in every first encounter with the cast, has glowing eyes.Uh. That was glints off a bottle. He shines his flashlight on them, pennywise didn't show up until the storm drain.
It's eyes were glowing straight at Georgie.
That kinda debatable.
That's not how I interpreted it when It's eyes themselves emit a glow and It's capable of creating illusions. It, in every first encounter with the cast, has glowing eyes.
That's not how I interpreted it when It's eyes themselves emit a glow and It's capable of creating illusions. It, in every first encounter with the cast, has glowing eyes.
That's not how I interpreted it when It's eyes themselves emit a glow and It's capable of creating illusions. It, in every first encounter with the cast, has glowing eyes.
Then why were It's eyes glowing when it first encountered Bill at the cellar?It's not at all debatable. The little kid got scared by light shining off two bottles. Pennywise wasn't down there. Not in the book, not in the miniseries, not in this movie.
Pennywise's deadlights are in his mouth in this movie anyway, not his actual eyes.
Little kid just spooked himself in the basement. Like all little kids do. It's supposed to put you at ease/catch you off guard before the actual bullshit goes down less than 5 minutes later.
I find it hard to believe that Georgie is merely afraid of the dark when he is more than willing to go outside whilst storming all by himself.Any time it did a psychological thing like that it was his actual eyes. In the cellar it was points of light that were shined upon and revealed to be ambient light on a bottle.
It was a red herring scare, Georgie was afraid of the dark and basement and had an apparent history of being scared of the basement.
It's not at all debatable. The little kid got scared by light shining off two bottles. Pennywise wasn't down there. Not in the book, not in the miniseries, not in this movie.
Pennywise's deadlights are in his mouth in this movie anyway, not his actual eyes.
Little kid just spooked himself in the basement. Like all little kids do. It's supposed to put you at ease/catch you off guard before the actual bullshit goes down less than 5 minutes later.
I think that was the natural fear of cellars that kids have. Seeing stuff that isn't there.It's eyes were glowing straight at Georgie.
This shot was recalled again when Bill went down into the cellar himself later down in the movie when he saw Georgie's apparition.
Then why were It's eyes glowing when it first encountered Bill at the cellar?
Heard from a friend a unique comparison.
He compared the original mini series to breaking bad and the new movie to the fictional show in in the movie Idocracy 'Ow My Balls.'
'One makes you think while the other just serves entertainment on a platter. Dude the world wants less citizen Kane and more Ow My Balls right now.
1. That's a shitty comparisonHeard from a friend a unique comparison.
He compared the original mini series to breaking bad and the new movie to the fictional show in in the movie Idocracy 'Ow My Balls.'
'One makes you think while the other just serves entertainment on a platter. Dude the world wants less citizen Kane and more Ow My Balls right now.
Your friend comparing the miniseries to Breaking Bad says all I need to know about their taste.Heard from a friend a unique comparison.
He compared the original mini series to breaking bad and the new movie to the fictional show in in the movie Idocracy 'Ow My Balls.'
'One makes you think while the other just serves entertainment on a platter. Dude the world wants less citizen Kane and more Ow My Balls right now.
I don't know? I don't even remember its eyes glowing. It's deadlights are in its mouth in this movie.
Pennywise isn't in the Denbrough's basement except as a vision to Bill using Georgie as his puppet. The beginning of the film it's just light on two bottles on a shelf. Pennywise is in the sewer at that time, and eats Georgie because Georgie stuck his face in the sewer and he'd just woken up from 27 years of sleep.
That irritated you?
How do you know that wasn't the best call?
Heard from a friend a unique comparison.
He compared the original mini series to breaking bad and the new movie to the fictional show in in the movie Idocracy 'Ow My Balls.'
'One makes you think while the other just serves entertainment on a platter. Dude the world wants less citizen Kane and more Ow My Balls right now.
What no it isn't lol, they showed what it actually isThat kinda debatable.
It is symbolic of all children's worst fears.I think that was the natural fear of cellars that kids have. Seeing stuff that isn't there.
It's like that in the book too, but without the eyes. Georgie imagines various frightening scenarios before he goes down.
I don't know what deadlights are, because I don't want to read a book that contains imagery of Beverly being put in that position.I don't know? I don't even remember its eyes glowing. It's deadlights are in its mouth in this movie.
Pennywise isn't in the Denbrough's basement except as a vision to Bill using Georgie as his puppet. The beginning of the film it's just light on two bottles on a shelf. Pennywise is in the sewer at that time, and eats Georgie because Georgie stuck his face in the sewer and he'd just woken up from 27 years of sleep.
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/Heard from a friend a unique comparison.
He compared the original mini series to breaking bad and the new movie to the fictional show in in the movie Idocracy 'Ow My Balls.'
'One makes you think while the other just serves entertainment on a platter. Dude the world wants less citizen Kane and more Ow My Balls right now.
He is wrong.Heard from a friend a unique comparison.
He compared the original mini series to breaking bad and the new movie to the fictional show in in the movie Idocracy 'Ow My Balls.'
'One makes you think while the other just serves entertainment on a platter. Dude the world wants less citizen Kane and more Ow My Balls right now.
I can concede that based on the sheer fact this is Derry it's quite possible SOMETHING was influencing the fear factor of the cellar but I don't think it was directly done by It.It is symbolic of all children's worst fears.
Who is to say that It didn't cause Georgie to be further afraid of the cellar? It making the cellar Georgie's most feared location then immediately preying on him afterwards tells me that he's been fucking with the kid long before he manifested as Pennywise in the drains.
I'm still tryna figure out lobster clown clawing after mike in the sewer. Did that ever happen in the book?
Lobster clown?I'm still tryna figure out lobster clown clawing after mike in the sewer. Did that ever happen in the book?
Lobster clown?
This is my first full exposure to It and its mythos so I'm not familiar with any of Derry's history as a town itself so I might be wrong.I can concede that based on the sheer fact this is Derry it's quite possible SOMETHING was influencing the fear factor of the cellar but I don't think it was directly done by It.
Could just be because that painting was scary as shit and they're young kids alone in a dark room.This is my first full exposure to It and its mythos so I'm not familiar with any of Derry's history as a town itself so I might be wrong.
As someone who has seen only his film though, it seemed deliberate to have Georgie already afraid then encountering Pennywise almost directly afterwards.
Stan is also scared shitless that he has to go to his father's study (?) alone when the painting lady manifested, so something tells me that these children are being taunted and fucked with by It. It aligns with why It does not just kill evey child in the town at every opportunity too.
Lobster clown?
I don't know what deadlights are
Maybe, but it doesn't make sense why It doesn't just kill outright then. Honestly, I find the film far more effective with It as a looming psychological presence taunting children than It actually being a Freddy-type slasher hellbent on killing kids onscreen every 25 or so minutes.Could just be because that painting was scary as shit and they're young kids alone in a dark room.
I might start rewatching the miniseries tonight. I want to see if the atmosphere is better in the miniseries. I thought this one really lacked that which ended up hurting the horror scenes.