StuBurns said:Do you know how many people don't look at magazine covers?
I'm not saying he isn't recognizable, but I don't think most Apple users know or even care who the CEO of Apple is. The cult of Steve Jobs is a pretty small subculture of Apple users I imagine.
I think that's fair. No one is going to be buying things based on whether Steve Jobs is there or not.SolKane said:We're not talking about whether he's "famous" (even Kim Kardashian is "famous"), we're talking about whether consumers care who the CEO of Apple is. I think many people are seriously overestimating just how keyed in to tech developments the average American consumer is. There's no indication to me that people buy Apple for anything other than a) quality of product and b) brand recognition. As long as points a and b remain constant consumers aren't going to be going overboard any time soon.
thirty said:Stock price tomorrow OMG Aaaaaahahahaha
Definitely. The product roadmap is set for the next few years already, I'm sure of that. It will be interesting to see what happens in the back half of this decade.JonathanEx said:I think that's a fair assessment. It's a big day but this will have been planned for and the Apple way must be engraved in to the company so much now.
The next product will get so much "WOULD STEVE HAVE DONE IT????" fuss when yes, yes he probably would, and probably planned it. Another 2 years or so in this direction while they work on their Next Fucking Huge Thing TM.
Any major changes to Apple as a response are surely long term.
BocoDragon said:But that's a problem in itself, isn't it? Conservatism in the company mindset is just as much of a problem.
If they're still cranking out iPhones and iPads in 5 years, it's going to be a problem.
Exactly. Plus those designs are simple reinterpretations of old Braun stuff anyway. Ive is overrated.numble said:People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
bean breath said:Apple will be fine as long as Jonathan Ive is there.
They do that already, they're called iPads.CaptYamato said:First thing to happen:
Apple starts making computers that everyone can afford.
fully agreed.numble said:People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
Tobor said:They do that already, they're called iPads.
So you highly doubt it, but you also could agree. Thanks, great.markatisu said:I highly doubt that, every Mac user I met knows who the Apple is.
If they are buying an Apple computer they know who he is, if they are buying a iPhone/iPad then I could agree since those are a much more broad product.
I figured stock would go down, pansy ass investors. Jobs most likely had visions of what he wanted for the future given their patents. His team is hand assembled, they will be fine.
hopefully not the people who thought that iCal's leather and paper skin was attractive.Chittagong said:He will be gone within a year of Steve's death. He has been wanting to go for a while, take his kids to UK enjoy his wealth and design something completely different than electronics.
The next year will see both Jobs and Ive gone, the company will be in the hands of Cook Forstall, Schiller and the hardware guy. For the life in me I can't figure out who will champion design in Apple then.
Sell.
Lol. What possible bearing would this have on you enjoying your computer?Weenerz said:Fuck, I just bought a 2011 iMac Monday, and this happens?
The rest of the Apple team often never gets credit, even though they're all equally as important as Ive and Jobs.numble said:People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
They need to bring back Bertrand Serlet with an Anglo accent.giga said:The rest of the Apple team often never gets credit, even though they're all equally as important as Ive and Jobs.
Mac = Bob Mansfield
iOS = Scott Forstall
OS X = Craig Federighi
What a shitty thing to post.slit said:Who are the artsy, fartsy Mac nerds gonna worship now?
Trent Strong said:Good. Maybe now they'll start putting some buttons on their stuff. Sometimes buttons are necessary.
So instead of making tons of money and being the wealthiest company in the world...CaptYamato said:First thing to happen:
Apple starts making computers that everyone can afford.
LOCK said:Hope all is well Mr. Jobs. Take a long vacation.
numble said:People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
Huh?Tobor said:They do that already, they're called iPads.
SolKane said:We're not talking about whether he's "famous" (even Kim Kardashian is "famous"), we're talking about whether consumers care who the CEO of Apple is. I think many people are seriously overestimating just how keyed in to tech developments the average American consumer is. There's no indication to me that people buy Apple for anything other than a) quality of product and b) brand recognition. As long as points a and b remain constant consumers aren't going to be going overboard any time soon.
Tobor said:They do that already, they're called iPads.
It's a light, simple computer that does what most people need on a daily basis.Yenrot said:Huh?
I agree that he's important, but he's not really the next big CEO mind that many people think. Sony and others make some nice designs too.mrkgoo said:I think everyone has played a very important role. Jony's work was the FACE of Apple products - there's no denying the design is what people initially see and want. Industrial design incorporates more than just the looks, but also the materials, including sustainability, and cost-effectiveness (which is obviously a huge part of making Apple profitable). Must pay attention to engineering if they have a spec to design to. The unification of the design and functionality is something I'm sure they're proud of.
I think that highlights why Steve may have been so important, as he was probably the glue that holds all the different teams together to provide the vision. Everything you do in life needs a vision.
I've really loved the keynotes of recent years, highlighting the rest of team leaders - they all seem like switched on people.
scorcho said:wasn't this announced around 6:30 and after the markets had already closed?
It's pretty much a soulless husk now, every time he looks at it, it will look back at him with its cold blue glare. Without Jobs the iMacs are just pretty industrial design pieces.Tobor said:Lol. What possible bearing would this have on you enjoying your computer?
Tobor said:They do that already, they're called iPads.
SolKane said:We're not talking about whether he's "famous" (even Kim Kardashian is "famous"), we're talking about whether consumers care who the CEO of Apple is. I think many people are seriously overestimating just how keyed in to tech developments the average American consumer is. There's no indication to me that people buy Apple for anything other than a) quality of product and b) brand recognition. As long as points a and b remain constant consumers aren't going to be going overboard any time soon.
Tobor said:It's a light, simple computer that does what most people need on a daily basis.
No man it doesn't have flash so it can't access the FULL WEB like the TouchPad!Tobor said:It's a light, simple computer that does what most people need on a daily basis.