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Steve Jobs resigns as CEO of Apple

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Always knew this day was coming. Kinda sad no matter what. Man, with this plus his book release date being moved up is not a good sign about Steve's health :( No matter your opinion on Apple or its products, Steve is a true visionary. Oh & FUCK CANCER!
 
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People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
 
StuBurns said:
Do you know how many people don't look at magazine covers?

I'm not saying he isn't recognizable, but I don't think most Apple users know or even care who the CEO of Apple is. The cult of Steve Jobs is a pretty small subculture of Apple users I imagine.

I highly doubt that, every Mac user I met knows who the Apple is.

If they are buying an Apple computer they know who he is, if they are buying a iPhone/iPad then I could agree since those are a much more broad product.

I figured stock would go down, pansy ass investors. Jobs most likely had visions of what he wanted for the future given their patents. His team is hand assembled, they will be fine.
 
SolKane said:
We're not talking about whether he's "famous" (even Kim Kardashian is "famous"), we're talking about whether consumers care who the CEO of Apple is. I think many people are seriously overestimating just how keyed in to tech developments the average American consumer is. There's no indication to me that people buy Apple for anything other than a) quality of product and b) brand recognition. As long as points a and b remain constant consumers aren't going to be going overboard any time soon.
I think that's fair. No one is going to be buying things based on whether Steve Jobs is there or not.

But the confidence of observers and investors in whether Apple can generate the types of products which consumers don't even know they want yet? That's potentially going to take a hit.

iPhone and iPad will continue to sell... but what comes next?
 
JonathanEx said:
I think that's a fair assessment. It's a big day but this will have been planned for and the Apple way must be engraved in to the company so much now.



The next product will get so much "WOULD STEVE HAVE DONE IT????" fuss when yes, yes he probably would, and probably planned it. Another 2 years or so in this direction while they work on their Next Fucking Huge Thing TM.

Any major changes to Apple as a response are surely long term.
Definitely. The product roadmap is set for the next few years already, I'm sure of that. It will be interesting to see what happens in the back half of this decade.
 
BocoDragon said:
But that's a problem in itself, isn't it? Conservatism in the company mindset is just as much of a problem.

If they're still cranking out iPhones and iPads in 5 years, it's going to be a problem.

It would be a problem. Where I assume Jobs would be able to steer the next generation of computing, I fear that Cook might be unable to market the same idea on the basis that he's not Jobs, and Steve Jobs' mind was unquantifiable for the market because he was thought to not only be a visionary but also a promoter. It's hard to analyze a Steve Jobs idea before he pitches it.
 
numble said:
People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
Exactly. Plus those designs are simple reinterpretations of old Braun stuff anyway. Ive is overrated.
 
bean breath said:
Apple will be fine as long as Jonathan Ive is there.

He will be gone within a year of Steve's death. He has been wanting to go for a while, take his kids to UK enjoy his wealth and design something completely different than electronics.

The next year will see both Jobs and Ive gone, the company will be in the hands of Cook Forstall, Schiller and the hardware guy. For the life in me I can't figure out who will champion design in Apple then.

Sell.
 
numble said:
People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
fully agreed.
 
If you have any money to spend on stocks, fuckin buy asap. That shit's gonna dip, recover and freeze like a headbanger with a heart attack.
 
markatisu said:
I highly doubt that, every Mac user I met knows who the Apple is.

If they are buying an Apple computer they know who he is, if they are buying a iPhone/iPad then I could agree since those are a much more broad product.

I figured stock would go down, pansy ass investors. Jobs most likely had visions of what he wanted for the future given their patents. His team is hand assembled, they will be fine.
So you highly doubt it, but you also could agree. Thanks, great.
 
Chittagong said:
He will be gone within a year of Steve's death. He has been wanting to go for a while, take his kids to UK enjoy his wealth and design something completely different than electronics.

The next year will see both Jobs and Ive gone, the company will be in the hands of Cook Forstall, Schiller and the hardware guy. For the life in me I can't figure out who will champion design in Apple then.

Sell.
hopefully not the people who thought that iCal's leather and paper skin was attractive.
 
numble said:
People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.
The rest of the Apple team often never gets credit, even though they're all equally as important as Ive and Jobs.

Mac = Bob Mansfield
iOS = Scott Forstall
OS X = Craig Federighi
 
Jobs markets to the early adopters. But even that is a small crowd now. IIRC, there were ~8 million iPhone 4 purchasers in the launch window, but over 20 million iPhone purchasers 15 months later.

giga said:
The rest of the Apple team often never gets credit, even though they're all equally as important as Ive and Jobs.

Mac = Bob Mansfield
iOS = Scott Forstall
OS X = Craig Federighi
They need to bring back Bertrand Serlet with an Anglo accent.
 
CaptYamato said:
First thing to happen:


Apple starts making computers that everyone can afford.
So instead of making tons of money and being the wealthiest company in the world...

...they can cut their margins and go to the no-profit world of cheap PCs that HP just bailed from?

I mean.. you and I would love cheaper Macs. But that's not good for business based on what's happened in the marketplace.
 
numble said:
People put too much credit in Jony Ive. He designs the shells but isn't involved in the innards, the software, or the ecosystem around it.

I think everyone has played a very important role. Jony's work was the FACE of Apple products - there's no denying the design is what people initially see and want. Industrial design incorporates more than just the looks, but also the materials, including sustainability, and cost-effectiveness (which is obviously a huge part of making Apple profitable). Must pay attention to engineering if they have a spec to design to. The unification of the design and functionality is something I'm sure they're proud of.

I think that highlights why Steve may have been so important, as he was probably the glue that holds all the different teams together to provide the vision. Everything you do in life needs a vision.

I've really loved the keynotes of recent years, highlighting the rest of team leaders - they all seem like switched on people.
 
SolKane said:
We're not talking about whether he's "famous" (even Kim Kardashian is "famous"), we're talking about whether consumers care who the CEO of Apple is. I think many people are seriously overestimating just how keyed in to tech developments the average American consumer is. There's no indication to me that people buy Apple for anything other than a) quality of product and b) brand recognition. As long as points a and b remain constant consumers aren't going to be going overboard any time soon.

Nice to see we arent even going to wait 24 hours to retcon how huge the guy is icon wise for both the company and to the media. Ridiculous to suggest consumers know no more of Job than some other companies CEO. Absurd when you consider the last 3 decades of a love affair (not always but mostly) that the mainstream MEDIA has had with the guy, the same mainstream media that this average consumer gets their information from.

But yeah sure, hes just some guy, noone really knows who he is, nor cares. Keep telling yourself that as every news channel, every tech related blog every facebook page and tweet with even a remote connection to the tech industry spends the next month or more Eulogizing this mans career.
 
Wozniak speaking:
http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

mrkgoo said:
I think everyone has played a very important role. Jony's work was the FACE of Apple products - there's no denying the design is what people initially see and want. Industrial design incorporates more than just the looks, but also the materials, including sustainability, and cost-effectiveness (which is obviously a huge part of making Apple profitable). Must pay attention to engineering if they have a spec to design to. The unification of the design and functionality is something I'm sure they're proud of.

I think that highlights why Steve may have been so important, as he was probably the glue that holds all the different teams together to provide the vision. Everything you do in life needs a vision.

I've really loved the keynotes of recent years, highlighting the rest of team leaders - they all seem like switched on people.
I agree that he's important, but he's not really the next big CEO mind that many people think. Sony and others make some nice designs too.
 
scorcho said:
wasn't this announced around 6:30 and after the markets had already closed?

Stock movements up or down almost always precede major announcements as there are insiders who are aware of things before the hand. That's a general economics principle of the irrational market.
 
Tobor said:
Lol. What possible bearing would this have on you enjoying your computer?
It's pretty much a soulless husk now, every time he looks at it, it will look back at him with its cold blue glare. Without Jobs the iMacs are just pretty industrial design pieces.
 
Tobor's actually kind of right.

Going into the future, an iPad will do what 95% of computer users need it to do...
 
SolKane said:
We're not talking about whether he's "famous" (even Kim Kardashian is "famous"), we're talking about whether consumers care who the CEO of Apple is. I think many people are seriously overestimating just how keyed in to tech developments the average American consumer is. There's no indication to me that people buy Apple for anything other than a) quality of product and b) brand recognition. As long as points a and b remain constant consumers aren't going to be going overboard any time soon.

You're an idiot.

Turn on your television. Report back to what us what you see and hear.
 
Tobor said:
It's a light, simple computer that does what most people need on a daily basis.

Most people will never adopt tablet because it lacks a keyboard.*



*people don't realize you can buy one separate.




Edit: Wait, everyone knows who Steve Jobs is.
 
Tobor said:
It's a light, simple computer that does what most people need on a daily basis.
No man it doesn't have flash so it can't access the FULL WEB like the TouchPad!




Ok I think I'm posting this too much, gonna shut up now.
 
With the iPhone 5 and iPad 3 coming in a few months, profits will be huge for apple. If you have the money, buy apple stock NOW
 
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