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Steve Jobs resigns as CEO of Apple

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Ugh...hate cancer....hate it cause thats how most of my family dies, hate it cause I've seen too many people look like this...hate it cause I think its how I'll die (thankfully, it seems that its very late onset in my gene pool..but still.)

Jobs was probably a real task master to work for, but he was charasmatic and a visionary as well, seeing him look this frail sucks. He did out live all the 'odds' so far, perhaps there is some other medicinal trick they can pull to buy him more time.

In the end, we all have to leave here sometime, someway.
 
Wow. I hope that the people selling these photos get a lot of self-worth out of the couple thousand dollars they receive in payment. I'm not trying to stick up for Jobs or anything, as he has other concerns now. I'm more commenting on what a horrible person it must take to profit from something like this.

I'm LTTP on Blackface's post, but man, I don't know if I've read a post with that much wrong in it. I mean, there's not one defensible statement in it.
 
sk3 said:
I don't think Jobs' condition is as bad as the pictures seem. If his death were imminent (or he was given a timetable), why would he stay on as chairman? That's still a pretty important role.
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Could be more an honorary position. Not sure how Apple's structure works in that regard.

Jobs' health could be in very rapid decline at this point. I'd imagine it would take a bad situation for him to write that he couldn't perform 'day to day duties' anymore, but who knows.
 
MultiCore said:
Who are you to determine morality for this man?
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What? People see actions and make decisions all the time. Dispute my point of refusing to do great good. It's like admitting you're left handed to save lives. If you treat it with any more significance, you're admitting it's something to hide.

If one has the ability to do great good and does nothing, they are a lesser person.

Computer said:
I didn't know there was a gay mafia until today, telling other gays what to do.
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krypt0nian said:
He should want to come out and use his position to help those that are questioning, feeling alone or worse yet, contemplating suicide. He enjoys a more than comfortable life financially and there is no way this can be used against him in his career. It's all well and good to cite privacy when you're at risk. But I look down on those that are in a safe place that have the power to make a difference and don't. Especially if he's already known to be out among his life circle already.

Every gay person is in a "movement" until everyone enjoys full equal rights. I do agree that no one should be outed unless they are publicly doing things that are anti-gay. If they choose to work against gay rights and are secretly gay, busting them is the right thing to do.

In Mr Cook's case, it would be the same thing to me if someone had billions in the bank and gave nothing to charity. No they cannot be forced to give to those less fortunate, but if they don't they look like shit.

It's either hero time or coward time, Tim. If one has the ability to do great good and does nothing, they are a lesser person.
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I didn't know there was a gay mafia until today.
 
Vyer said:
Could be more an honorary position. Not sure how Apple's structure works in that regard.

Jobs' health could be in very rapid decline at this point. I'd imagine it would take a bad situation for him to write that he couldn't perform 'day to day duties' anymore, but who knows.
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That was my immediate reaction too. He seems like a man who would never give up the job he loves unless he had been given some very bad news.
 
krypt0nian said:
What? People see actions and make decisions all the time. Dispute my point of refusing to do great good. It's like admitting you're left handed to save lives. If you treat it with any more significance, you're admitting it's something to hide.

If one has the ability to do great good and does nothing, they are a lesser person.



harharhar
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So you want him to come out publicly and make this huge thing out of it, but that's treating it with significance and admitting it's something to hide. Say what?

Am I right in understanding that Tim Cook is out privately but made no statement publicly either way regarding his sexuality? In that case, that's fine. There's only a problem if he's denied being gay.
 
Superimposer said:
So you want him to come out publicly and make this huge thing out of it, but that's treating it with significance and admitting it's something to hide. Say what?

Am I right in understanding that Tim Cook is out privately but made no statement publicly either way regarding his sexuality? In that case, that's fine. There's only a problem if he's denied being gay.
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Your words not mine. He could come out simply by mentioning a partner or guy he's currently seeing casually in some interview or bring someone to an awards dinner or speech, without a presser and make a huge difference in the world.
 
The transition from Jobs to Cook had to happen. The damage to Apple would have been far greater if Jobs passed while he was in total control of the company. Not being callous, just looking from a business perspective.
 
krypt0nian said:
He should want to come out and use his position to help those that are questioning, feeling alone or worse yet, contemplating suicide. He enjoys a more than comfortable life financially and there is no way this can be used against him in his career. It's all well and good to cite privacy when you're at risk. But I look down on those that are in a safe place that have the power to make a difference and don't. Especially if he's already known to be out among his life circle already.

Every gay person is in a "movement" until everyone enjoys full equal rights. I do agree that no one should be outed unless they are publicly doing things that are anti-gay. If they choose to work against gay rights and are secretly gay, busting them is the right thing to do.

In Mr Cook's case, it would be the same thing to me if someone had billions in the bank and gave nothing to charity. No they cannot be forced to give to those less fortunate, but if they don't they look like shit.

It's either hero time or coward time, Tim. If one has the ability to do great good and does nothing, they are a lesser person.
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What right do you have to judge the morality of other people? Mr. Cook isn't defined by his sexuality and if he choose not to disclose it and join a movement that is a perfectly fine and moral position. If he comes out he is defining himself based on his sexuality and that will not stop a teen who lives in Indiana from getting beaten up for being a fag. Being a movement figure head isn't for everyone and we shouldn't force people or out them.
 
Probably why he is still on as a chairman to oversee that the transition goes smoothly I couldn't see him just walk away and say I am done like that after all the hard work he has done to build up the company.The new guy has some big shoes to fill.
 
Ulairi said:
What right do you have to judge the morality of other people? Mr. Cook isn't defined by his sexuality and if he choose not to disclose it and join a movement that is a perfectly fine and moral position. If he comes out he is defining himself based on his sexuality and that will not stop a teen who lives in Indiana from getting beaten up for being a fag. Being a movement figure head isn't for everyone and we shouldn't force people or out them.
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Nevermind. You're not going to bother. "defining himself based on his sexuality"

I...wow...
 
Oh dear, these pictures are extremely depressing. I was buoyed (though still disturbed) by talk of the first pic being fake, but with the new ones that doesn't seem to be the case.

That's just shocking what can happen to a person. It's like he's aged decades in mere months.
 
krypt0nian said:
Your words not mine. He could come out simply by mentioning a partner or guy he's currently seeing casually in some interview or bring someone to an awards dinner or speech, without a presser and make a huge difference in the world.
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He could do that, but I would assume it's just never come up. If someone asks him whether he's gay I doubt he would deny it, and I think denial is the only problem, not a refusal to admit.

Also I disagree with the idea that it would make such a huge difference. Firstly, he's already become Apple CEO which I think already does plenty to show gay people that their orientation doesn't have to hinder them. I don't know how much more Cook casually mentioning it in an interview could do than that.
 
gofreak said:
Oh dear, these pictures are extremely depressing. I was buoyed (though still disturbed) by talk of the first pic being fake, but with the new ones that doesn't seem to be the case.

That's just shocking what can happen to a person. It's like he's aged decades in mere months.
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That's the curse of cancer. It's horrible.
 
Vyer said:
Could be more an honorary position. Not sure how Apple's structure works in that regard.

Jobs' health could be in very rapid decline at this point. I'd imagine it would take a bad situation for him to write that he couldn't perform 'day to day duties' anymore, but who knows.
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Some companies allow people to stay on the board until they pass away or they fully want to be done having any contact with the business. He's obviously in bad shape, and it sucks, but him holding any sort of position on the board doesn't mean he has a great outlook or anything.
 
Looking at his current condition, do you think it's possible he can still beat this cancer?

It looks bad, though. My mom beat ovarian cancer about 15 years ago, but I've known others to not be so fortunate.

krypt0nian said:
Your words not mine. He could come out simply by mentioning a partner or guy he's currently seeing casually in some interview or bring someone to an awards dinner or speech, without a presser and make a huge difference in the world.
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But if his sexuality is already known what difference would it make for him to continue to make a point of it through these means?
 
Surfheart said:
Ummm, OSX came out of NeXTStep which was a BSD based Unix Operating system/GUI that shipped on NeXT workstations back in 1988. NeXT was founded by Steve Jobs and a lot of the engineers that worked at NeXT shaped OSX.

The Dock was a significant part of the NeXTStep UI.
Gnome was heavily influenced by the look of Nextstep with lots of drop shadows and Beveled UI elements

NeXTStep was released in 1988, Linux was released in 1992 and Gnome was released in 1999.

Just who is copying who?
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And BSD predates NeXT, and the Motif Desktop (whatever the hell it was called) heavily influenced NeXTStep as well. I'll give you the dock as a major innovation, but the drop shadows and bevels predate NeXTStep. This stuff is evolutionary, and Steve Jobs/NeXT/Apple wasn't the font of all the creativity involved.
 
Treefingers said:
"In my opinion" is kind of implied.. almost every post on GAF is opinion.
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Well I don't want to infer the wrong thing here ;D. However, to give a blanket statement saying that if everyone that can doesn't, and thus makes them a lesser person is rather asinine.

Then again, I guess that would make everyone a lesser person. If we're all lesser, then that makes us all the same, so the status quo is still intact and everything is.... *boom*
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
And BSD predates NeXT, and the Motif Desktop (whatever the hell it was called) heavily influenced NeXTStep as well. I'll give you the dock as a major innovation, but the drop shadows and bevels predate NeXTStep. This stuff is evolutionary, and Steve Jobs/NeXT/Apple wasn't the font of all the creativity involved.
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While this is true, consider the post to which he is responding.

Then again, none of this really has to do with Steve Jobs and cancer.
 
Steve Jobs's biological dad wants to meet dying son

Did you know that Steve Jobs was given up for adoption as an infant?

Abdulfattah John Jandali, a Syrian immigrant who came to the US a few decades ago, is the biological father of Apple CEO and rich man Steve Jobs.

Jandali, 80 years old, conceived the child with his now-ex-wife Joanne Simpson but Simpson's father was against the idea of his daughter marrying a Syrian. As a result, their child was given up for adoption.

However, Simpson's dad died just a few months later, allowing the couple to be together without issue, and were able to have more children after that.

While Steve Jobs clearly never gained any direct influences from his biological dad, the two do share at least one characteristic - they're workaholics. Jandali is himself fairly successful as the vice president of a casino in Reno and refuses to retire.

A few years back, he was curious about the son he gave away so long ago and was stunned to learn that it was in fact Steve Jobs.

According to a new article in the New York Post, Jandali has e-mailed his son a few times but never taken the initiative to meet him face-to-face. Now that Jobs may be on his deathbed, though, he wants to have that opportunity.

He said he hopes his son will call him so the two can get a cup of coffee or some such. He told the Post he regrets not having more of an influence on Jobs's life.

The people Jobs calls mom and dad were a working-class couple from Mountain View, California. And such is another page in the intriguing life story of the inimitable CEO.
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http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-brief/58174-steve-jobss-biological-dad-wants-to-meet-dying-son
 
Gamecocks625 said:
Looking at his current condition, do you think it's possible he can still beat this cancer?
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Honestly, it looks like he has weeks. He looks very similar to my dad just before he died. But every body is different, and he could continue to look this frail for a long time...
 
Gamecocks625 said:
Looking at his current condition, do you think it's possible he can still beat this cancer?
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This is the picture of a man reappearing in public after reportedly beating pancreatic cancer. He died two months later.
 
effingvic said:
those pics of jobs...yikes :( doesnt seem like he has much time left at all

pretty saddening.
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Yeah, I'm really glad my wife was shielded from her grandmother during her final days (stomach cancer and lymphoma iirc). She was pretty worn down 5 months prior to her passing, I cannot imagine how she looked in the final stretch. These pictures are just.. Ugh.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
fascinating.
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Just trying to get on the will at the last minute. So what he 'sent a few emails' trying to get in contact before, yet this just happens to be a news article now that Job's health is in further question? If I was Jobs I would say "That's nice." in reply to the email and leave it at that. All sorts of parasites coming out of the woodwork.
 
Computer said:
http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-brief/58174-steve-jobss-biological-dad-wants-to-meet-dying-son
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Is this scumbag for real? If your son is dying you don't talk to the NY Post about hoping he calls you, you pick up the fucking phone yourself.
 
sk3 said:
Is this scumbag for real? If your son is dying you don't talk to the NY Post about hoping he calls you, you pick up the fucking phone yourself.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's that easy for a someone to get in touch with Steve Jobs.
 
Hexadecimalt said:
Just trying to get on the will at the last minute. So what he 'sent a few emails' trying to get in contact before, yet this just happens to be a news article now that Job's health is in further question? If I was Jobs I would say "That's nice." in reply to the email and leave it at that. All sorts of parasites coming out of the woodwork.
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He's an 80yr old VP of a casino. I doubt he's hurting for money or has any real use for it at this point in his life.
 
Hexadecimalt said:
Just trying to get on the will at the last minute. So what he 'sent a few emails' trying to get in contact before, yet this just happens to be a news article now that Job's health is in further question? If I was Jobs I would say "That's nice." in reply to the email and leave it at that. All sorts of parasites coming out of the woodwork.
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Seriously? He's 80 and apparently still loves to work for the sake of working. He doesn't want money.

He wants to meet his son before he dies. How awful of him.
 
Just rings foul on the bullshit detector when he is just now appearing on the scene at the 11th hour and the first anyone hears of him is via this news article. If he was honest or knew Jobs in the slightest you would think he would have the respect to keep their correspondence private. Seems like a disingenuous cash-in for attention whether money is involved or not.
 
Hexadecimalt said:
Just rings foul on the bullshit detector when he is just now appearing on the scene at the 11th hour and the first anyone hears of him is via this news article. If he was honest or knew Jobs in the slightest you would think he would have the respect to keep their correspondence private. Seems like a disingenuous cash-in for attention whether money is involved or not.
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What correspondence?

How easy do you think it is for him to contact Steve Jobs? You can't just e-mail him @apple.com and be like "hey Steve, it's your dad."

And what bullshit is going on anyway? The old guy's about to die too, and he's already rich. What could he gain out of it other than just wanting to meet his son?
 
dead souls said:
Yeah, I'm sure it's that easy for a someone to get in touch with Steve Jobs.
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Yeah it's not like you could just email him or something... like hundreds of other random people that get responses.
 
sk3 said:
Yeah it's not like you could just email him or something... like hundreds of other random people that get responses.
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Yes i'm sure that Steve Jobs is still keeping up to date with all email coming from strangers. Seriously, how many people do you think have emailed him since he resigned, telling him 'Good luck' or 'get well' or whatever else? Anything that isn't related to the business probably gets ignored.
 
sk3 said:
Yeah it's not like you could just email him or something... like hundreds of other random people that get responses.
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How many emails do you think he's received where someone claims to be related to him? I'd be willing to bet it's in the tens of thousands.
 
Off-topic: any "seminal" books relating the rise of Apple and Microsoft out there? I just watched Pirates of Silicon Valley and found it highly interesting.
 
Canadian Psycho said:
Off-topic: any "seminal" books relating the rise of Apple and Microsoft out there? I just watched Pirates of Silicon Valley and found it highly interesting.
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For Apple that would be Apple Confidential. Not sure about Microsoft.
 
he is dying and deserves sympathy, but the pictures dont not bother me at all. I like my iphones but steve jobs dying does not give me an emotional feeling. how anyone can feel like they know him when they have just seen him being a salesman, selling his products at his job?
 
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