Zepp Twofist
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I expect this is because del Toro decided to devote his career to play Pappy McPoyle?
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Steven S. DeKnight To Direct Pacific Rim 2
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I remember reading an article where they were talking about writing the script while filming Dark of the Moon...
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Spartacus was good.
Daredevil was good.
I like it.
Daredevil was good.
I like it.
What!!! Pans Labyrinth's existence tells me you are somehow incapable of rational judgement if you have seen that film and believe this.
donkey show
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How the fuck did Del Toro get knocked off his own film?
https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/702326678337556480?lang=en
Rian Johnson?
near
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He was doing films before he directed any TV episodes.
Discotheque
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they should set it in dubai tbh. i like the architecture and I want to see a giant mech surf a sand dune on top of a portion of a skyscraper.
matrix-cat
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Pacific Rim 2 isn't going to be written in Spanish, though, is it? I can't believe I'm getting so much shit for implying that the writer of Hellboy, Hellboy 2, Pacific Rim and The Strain isn't a master fucking scribe.
Discotheque
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he sucks ass when he makes english stuff tbh. i'm with you on that. his spanish language films were pretty decent though.
and i'll say he has impeccable production design in all of his films. that's probably the only constant in quality that you'll find in his filmography. man works better on a conceptual level.
Visual design, audio design, and story themes are universal regardless of language barriers. Being able to give good direction, write sharp dialogue, and communicate what you want to someone else are things which can be a lot more challenging with language barriers. I think Del Toro's passion carries him a long way, but it's clear he is in his element the most as a writer-director when working in his native language.
Miles Quaritch
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Spartacus had its moment. I'm willing to see where this goes, DeKnight will surprise a lot of people I think.
DiscoJer
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This is probably asking too much, but it would be nice to have some fights that aren't underwater or at night when it's raining.
All I wanted out of the first movie was good kaiju fights and they were hard to see because of the constant water effects (either under the water or rain) and lack of decent lighting.
All I wanted out of the first movie was good kaiju fights and they were hard to see because of the constant water effects (either under the water or rain) and lack of decent lighting.
Miles Quaritch
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Like Justice League Dark?
True Savior
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Good that Del Toro isnt stuck in this.
Not usually a fan, but honest trailers really nailed Pacific Rim.
Going to be quite the leap from Spartacus to this. Studios must be tiring of GDT not delivering or backing out at times.
Triggerhappytel
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Wait, is this film back on then? Like, really, as in it's really really going ahead?!
Although without del Toro on board I'm not sure I really care.
Although without del Toro on board I'm not sure I really care.
Triggerhappytel
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I would argue his strengths are in visual design and directing. I don't see how you can say he's not a good director when he has the likes of The Devil's Backbone, Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy 1/2 to his name.
At first I wasn't sure what to feel since I always felt like Del Torro and Pacific Rim together, and I wasn't so hot on the last episode of Daredevil, but Spartacus has the kind of intensity and direction that kinda fits with Pacific Rim. I think the director is more than solid and good enough to do the job.
What has to improve though is the writing; Pacific Rim 2 - in my opinion - needs to be tighter and better paced than the first one. I can live with cliche dialogue and shit if the movie just flows much better than the first one without much exposition and shit.
What has to improve though is the writing; Pacific Rim 2 - in my opinion - needs to be tighter and better paced than the first one. I can live with cliche dialogue and shit if the movie just flows much better than the first one without much exposition and shit.
Fudgepuppy
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I want to know if this is GDT's idea or the studio.
Seems weird of Legendary to fire FDT.
Seems weird of Legendary to fire FDT.
So..., it appears that Del Toro has completely been left out in the cold on this one, they aren't even using his original sequel script if I'm reading Deadline correctly. I'm assuming that this is going to be a lower budget (compared to the first one) sequel that will effectively reboot the set up of the first film.
It'll be interesting to see just how quickly this all came together after the Wanda sale. And what would a 'China centric' Pacific Rim sequel directed by Mr DeKnight even look like?
It's telling that there isn't a production start date or estimated release date for this given how closely Legendary came to actually giving Del Toro the reins on a sequel before cancelling it.
It'll be interesting to see just how quickly this all came together after the Wanda sale. And what would a 'China centric' Pacific Rim sequel directed by Mr DeKnight even look like?
It's telling that there isn't a production start date or estimated release date for this given how closely Legendary came to actually giving Del Toro the reins on a sequel before cancelling it.
Triggerhappytel
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I imagine he became committed to something else while the project was temporarily cancelled. He has been tweeting about it, so I imagine he's still on board but whether it's a consultancy role or as a producer, who knows.
I imagine that he's been 'grandfathered' into an Executive Producer role but given the poor performance of Crimson Peak (and the original PR to an extent) I've not doubt that Legendary made the decision to push him aside.
It speaks volumes that Del Toro's next film is a lower budget fantasy at Fox Searchlight.
Triggerhappytel
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That seems like a fair expectation; I had forgotten about Crimson Peak, and that it was a box office failure. Still need to see that film, but I was mislead by the marketing into expecting a horror film, and then mostly lost interest when I read that it was actually more of a Gothic romance with moments of mild horror.
CassidyIzABeast
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So did they tell him, "hey we want to make this happen...just not with you at the helm" or something?
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I thought about this more last night, and I'm still of mixed emotions about it. On one hand I'm damn happy that a sequel is even getting made finally, but on the other hand I'm really down about Del Toro not making said sequel and I am not impressed by the credentials of the new director and writer. But, at least now we have a chance at a good PR2, and a chance is still better than no chance at all.
I've had the damned theme from Pacific Rim stuck in my head ever since reading this thread last night. Now I'll be humming it for weeks again just like I always do after thinking about this movie....
I've had the damned theme from Pacific Rim stuck in my head ever since reading this thread last night. Now I'll be humming it for weeks again just like I always do after thinking about this movie....
¡HarlequinPanic!
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where do you remember seeing it last? Have you checked there.
Tertullian
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So are they actually making this effing movie now or what?
In all seriousness, I feel more or less the same, although not to the point of feeling like walking out of the theater.
Halcyon
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In all seriousness, I feel more or less the same, although not to the point of feeling like walking out of the theater.
I remember I was having kind of a bad day, and also that I got a haircut for some reason because I was telling the lady how disappointed I was with Pacific Rim.
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TDLink
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I feel like GDT doesn't even like directing all that much since he always ends up leaving his projects for someone else to helm. Maybe he just enjoys producing more. Or maybe he's gotten extremely unlucky time and time again. I don't know.
Either way I think this could be good. Spartacus and Daredevil both turned out well with great direction at times. The original Pacific Rim also had some major problems. The entire film was alright but clearly missing its potential. Pacing was off. Most of the money shots were used in the trailers too. Hopefully this sequel can really go crazy and give us the mecha vs kaiju film we want rather than just the broad strokes like the last one.
Either way I think this could be good. Spartacus and Daredevil both turned out well with great direction at times. The original Pacific Rim also had some major problems. The entire film was alright but clearly missing its potential. Pacing was off. Most of the money shots were used in the trailers too. Hopefully this sequel can really go crazy and give us the mecha vs kaiju film we want rather than just the broad strokes like the last one.
StriKeVillain
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I can live with that.
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