TheSpoiler
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I wonder who's v-reversal needs the least amount of work beside Abigail.
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Street Fighter V |OTVIIII| New Generation - Fighting Game Is Something So Great
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Give Rashid the ability to make two tornadoes, kinda like ibuki bombs, then he would be perfect.
Oh i thoughts you were talking about v trigger lol.
TheSpoiler
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I thought Nash had the worst one tbh.
Dang I didn't know Kolin's was that bad.
Dang I didn't know Kolin's was that bad.
They should just give her the upkicks and every move any character ever had unless it's really dumb and doesn't fit (like Gief's Green Hand).
SolarPowered
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This is what I would have liked to see.
TheSpoiler
Member
Possibly could do something like that with the arcade version.
Zombegoast
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Nash recovery is 41f vs kolin's 33 and he's vulnerable to strikes in the last few frames.
yeah but kolin travels probably like half the distance nash does
bruh why are you responding to him
And nash v reversal is flashy and cool but Kolin only rolls on the ground
Zombegoast
Member
His distance got nerfed as well that you can throw him back into the corner.
I still think Cammy has the worst.
Flux, to address your question about CCing Chun Li with Abigail's 20f stand fierce after blocking her -16 EX SBK, as far as I can tell, there's only two possible scenarios where that could happen (one being particularly unlikely).
First, if you're at just the right range, you will be pushed away after blocking the first two hits and the second two hits whiff, giving you more time to press the fierce. It's a pretty specific distance, though.
Beyond that, according to the hitboxes on Chun's EX SBK, the fourth/last hit only hits in front of her, rather than on both sides like the first three hits. If you somehow ended up switching sides with her right as she started the EX SBK but still in a position to block it, that fourth hit could seemingly whiff. But the few scenarios I tested couldn't get her to EX SBK the wrong direction while still keeping Abigail close enough to block it.
If you're certain you blocked all four hits of the EX SBK at close range and still had time to CC with stand fierce, either the Chun player mashed something right as the EX SBK ended, or you were in some bizarre scenario that I'd have to see to posit an explanation.
First, if you're at just the right range, you will be pushed away after blocking the first two hits and the second two hits whiff, giving you more time to press the fierce. It's a pretty specific distance, though.
Beyond that, according to the hitboxes on Chun's EX SBK, the fourth/last hit only hits in front of her, rather than on both sides like the first three hits. If you somehow ended up switching sides with her right as she started the EX SBK but still in a position to block it, that fourth hit could seemingly whiff. But the few scenarios I tested couldn't get her to EX SBK the wrong direction while still keeping Abigail close enough to block it.
If you're certain you blocked all four hits of the EX SBK at close range and still had time to CC with stand fierce, either the Chun player mashed something right as the EX SBK ended, or you were in some bizarre scenario that I'd have to see to posit an explanation.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Just tried hard survival and the strategy completely stopped working at round 25.
She has 7 recovery frames where she's vulnerable to be hit and goes nowhere. Nash has 2 frames by comparison.
I'll take Nash's v-reversal over Kolin's any day of any week of any year
I've grabbed him out of his V reversal 95% of the time, or command thrown him all the time. It's the easiest to react to.
Turbanator
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Usually Thursdays, but the last few announcements didn't follow the pattern IIRC.
thats kinda mean
nah they are about the same. The main advantage of Nash over chars like Rashid,Fang,Kolin in S1 was that he would go futher but the trade off was more recovery.
When they nerfed the distance they din change the frame data , so now its just really bad.
The Lone Dragon
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Capcom just uploaded some sort of Ibuki 4-player online mini-game:
http://tamaya.capcom.co.jp
It actually matches you up with online opponents, and you try to collect bombs...while using black bombs to blow up other people's bombs.
"Capture the flag"-esque
http://tamaya.capcom.co.jp
It actually matches you up with online opponents, and you try to collect bombs...while using black bombs to blow up other people's bombs.
"Capture the flag"-esque
TheSpoiler
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Did you ever port forward, fam?
Trickster
Member
Nah I didn't bother looking into it, matchmaking generally isn't a problem. And I get why finding matches after 2 am in europe is a struggle when I set it to only get me 5 bar connections
Turbanator
Member
On the phone, so I can't see. Are any new costumes there?
Last time we got a random mini game it was for the School costumes.
Is this a Menat?
Ok, so there'll be a CPT tournament here in Lima this weekend and I'll be commentating during pools on Saturday and during Top 8 on Sunday. I need some updates regarding match-up knowledge, the frame data I can read by myself, but I'm not sure where to look for info regarding match-ups for the most common characters. Any help? 
Rickenslacker
Banned
Abigene Simmons is horrifying.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Yeah, this is bullcrap. Stops working long before the end and will straight up get you killed once the CPU starts punishing it with 35% combos.
Bob Coffee
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abigail looks like a hokuto no ken charicter in that art in the best way lol.
spazchicken
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I absolutely hate the two or three feminine/flamboyant ones on the bottom left, so of course that means everyone else will love them.
The Lone Dragon
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Storm Kubo streaming Abigail:
https://www.twitch.tv/stormkubo
No, it's just an Ibuki 4-player bomb collecting game.
4 default costume Ibuki's of different colors, each one controlled by a different online opponent:
https://www.twitch.tv/stormkubo
No, it's just an Ibuki 4-player bomb collecting game.
4 default costume Ibuki's of different colors, each one controlled by a different online opponent:
Nah, they're dumb. They don't fit his character at all.
why would you show us this
Chronospherics
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Started playing again (thus subbed to the latest OT).
Managed to get 5th at my locals last night. There's a Rashid there called Daniel Dillips with over 20,000 LP who's been giving me some pointers for my Rashid.
Managed to get 5th at my locals last night. There's a Rashid there called Daniel Dillips with over 20,000 LP who's been giving me some pointers for my Rashid.
lucebuce12
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No, it's just an Ibuki 4-player bomb collecting game.
4 default costume Ibuki's of different colors, each one controlled by a different online opponent:
ColonialHawk
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Because in a game thats currently all about pressure and being in your face, most of Alex's moves reset him to neutral which would be fine buuut his best normals used in the nuetral game (cr.MP, st.MK, cr.MK) are really slow compared to most of the cast and I believe have some linger hurtboxes.
Combine these slow normals, bad oki, bad wakeup options, and you have a low-tier character in SFV. Theres some other issues with him, but I feel that those 3 are his overall issues.
Trickster
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I see, sounds like he deals with the same issue that Mika does. But I guess I just feel like he's much more scary to face than any Mika. Definitely has a way better v trigger
Off note - Why the FUCK, does Zangiefs grab beat my freaking super?
lucebuce12
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That shouldn't be happening. Only situation I can think of where that can happen is that the grab came out before the super was inputted.
EDIT: Perhaps it's some perfect fuckery where the Super was active during the startup Zangief's EX SPD, and when the EX SPD became active the invincibility of the CA wore off? EX SPD is grab invincible during startup.
Mika's CA has 3 frames of startup and 2 active frames while the EX SPD has 5 frames of grab invincible startup. This is a possibility.
lucebuce12
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Trickster
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I'll be honest and say I don't fully understand what you saying
But the Zangief definitely started the grab before my super, guess that might have caused some super tiny window where it'd cause the super to lose
Zombegoast
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At least he has one of the better Vtrigger and good damage output. Unlike a certain character who is actually dead.
FANG
lucebuce12
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Yeah, looking at the frames it's possible you started the super when he was still on the first frame of his grab and it lead to a perfect storm of fuckery leading to your CA getting beat. Boy that must have felt great.I'll be honest and say I don't fully understand what you saying
But the Zangief definitely started the grab before my super, guess that might have caused some super tiny window where it'd cause the super to lose
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oh dear.