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Study: Employers less likely to interview openly gay men for job openings

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ivysaur12

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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-10/uocp-ell100311.php


A new study suggests that openly gay men face substantial job discrimination in certain parts of the U.S.

The study, which is the largest of its kind to look at job discrimination against gay men, found that employers in the South and Midwest were much less likely to offer an interview if an applicant's resume indicates that he is openly gay. Overall, the study found that gay applicants were 40 percent less likely to be granted an interview than their heterosexual counterparts.

"The results indicate that gay men encounter significant barriers in the hiring process because, at the initial point of contact, employers more readily disqualify openly gay applicants than equally qualified heterosexual applicants," writes the study's author, András Tilcsik of Harvard University.

The research will be published tomorrow (October 4) in the American Journal of Sociology.

For the study, Tilcsik sent two fictitious but realistic resumes to more than 1,700 entry-level, white collar job openings -- positions such as managers, business and financial analysts, sales representatives, customer service representatives, and administrative assistants. The two resumes were very similar in terms of the applicant's qualifications, but one resume for each opening mentioned that the applicant had been part of a gay organization in college.

"I chose an experience in a gay community organization that could not be easily dismissed as irrelevant to a job application," Tilcsik writes. "Thus, instead of being just a member of a gay or lesbian campus organization, the applicant served as the elected treasurer for several semesters, managing the organization's financial operations."

The second resume Tilcsik sent listed experience in the "Progressive and Socialist Alliance" in place of the gay organization. Since employers are likely to associate both groups with left-leaning political views, Tilcsik could separate any "gay penalty" from the effects of political discrimination.

The results showed that applicants without the gay signal had an 11.5 percent chance of being called for an interview. However, gay applicants had only a 7.2 percent chance. That difference amounts to a 40 percent higher chance of the heterosexual applicant getting a call.

The callback gap varied widely according to the location of the job, Tilcsik found. In fact, most of the overall gap detected in the study was driven by the Southern and Midwestern states in the sample -- Texas, Florida, and Ohio. The Western and Northeastern states in the sample (California, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and New York) had only small and statistically insignificant callback gaps.

"This doesn't necessarily mean that there is no discrimination in those states, just that the callback gaps were small in the case of the jobs to which I sent applications," Tilcsik explained. "I think it's very plausible that, even in those states, there might be a large callback gap in some other jobs, industries, or counties. What this does show is that discrimination in white-collar employment is substantially stronger for the Southern and Midwestern states in the sample."

The research also found that employers seeking stereotypically heterosexual male traits were more likely to discriminate gay men. Gay applicants had lower callback rates when the employer described the ideal candidate for the job as "assertive," "aggressive," or "decisive.

"It seems, therefore, that the discrimination documented in this study is partly rooted in specific stereotypes and cannot be completely reduced to a general antipathy against gay employees," Tilcsik writes.

The technique Tilcsik used, known as audit study, has been used in the past to expose hiring prejudice based on race and on sex. This is the first major audit study to test the receptiveness of employers to gay male job applicants.

Understanding the ways in which these biases might operate at the interview stage of the employment process, or how they might apply to lesbian job seekers in the U.S., requires additional research, Tilcsik says.

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András Tilcsik, "Pride and Prejudice: Employment Discrimination against Openly Gay Men in the United States." American Journal of Sociology 117:2 (September 2011).

Established in 1895 as the first U.S. scholarly journal in its field, the American Journal of Sociology remains a leading voice for analysis and research in the social sciences.

Yes, the resumes don't say "I'M GAY!," but the fact that even having one LGBT club on there creates that much of a gap is staggering.
 

Snaku

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But being gay is a choice, despite all of the social and professional disadvantages. Right Mr. Cain?
 

LQX

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I haven't filled out a job application in long time. Do they have check box for sexual orientation now?
 

JGS

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Seems like a made up controversy.

I was thinking they were saying that openly gay men had a demeanor about them.
 

ivysaur12

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Sinatar said:
Why would anyone list their sexual preference on their resume? That's just weird.

Read the article before you post. It helps.


JGS said:
Seems like a made up controversy.

I was thinking they were saying that openly gay men had a demeanor about them.

The same thing happens with "black" names in resumes.
 

Shanadeus

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Hm, does it say anything about the sex and sexual preference of the employer (or whoever it is in charge of calling in candidates)?
 
Hardly shocking, I bet this holds true for just about any quality "different" than that of the employer. That being said if you want employment in a competitive market you should probably veil beliefs and characteristics that are going to be at odds with those granting employment.
 

demon

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HeadlessRoland said:
Hardly shocking, I bet this holds true for just about any quality "different" than that of the employer.
Was thinking the same thing.

Moral of the story- be a 6'1 thin, straight white guy when interviewing for jobs.
 

JGS

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ivysaur12 said:
The same thing happens with "black" names in resumes.
I didn't really say that right. I have no doubts that employers will discriminate if a gay/policitcal agenda organization is listed under previous experience. I just don't think that's on there too often.

So technically, I'm agreeing with the article, but I see it as likely as saying I was head of the Black Panthers Movement UK chapter.
 

SolKane

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LQX said:
I haven't filled out a job application in long time. Do they have check box for sexual orientation now?

Somehow it's not surprising to me that you didn't read the OP.

Oh, and this story really upsets me, as employers can and will essentially discriminate against you for any possible reason. God forbid someone's involved with an outreach organization, what a monster.
 
JGS said:
I ust don't think that's on there too often.

If you want a job it certainly should not be. Shit you will be discriminated against for smelling like cigarette smoke (this is actually a game ender in healthcare).
 

Tuck

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Read about this this morning. Sad, but not unexpected.

Which is why I will never give clues to my sexuality on a resume.
 

Shanadeus

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zoku88 said:
How would they know that?
I guess they could look up the percentage of males at the selected targets, but I have no idea how they'd determine the gender of the person directly responsible for passing on these CVs.

My guess is that they're predominantly male, but that might just be some sexism on my side (I'm not sure if men are in general more homophobic (towards gay men) than women).
 

JGS

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It's the same thing with many groups. I'm religious but I would have second thoughts about hiring someone who was pastor at Westboro Baptist seeking a career change.

I would wonder why anyone would list something on their resume that I'm technically not even allowed to ask about. It's like listing your wife as your reference. It's too personal.
 

SolKane

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JGS said:
I didn't really say that right. I have no doubts that employers will discriminate if a gay/policitcal agenda organization is listed under previous experience. I just don't think that's on there too often.

So technically, I'm agreeing with the article, but I see it as likely as saying I was head of the Black Panthers Movement UK chapter.

The experience listed was relevant to the job, so there's no reason not to include it other than fear of discrimination.
 

sans_pants

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that sucks but i hope this doesnt end up in some sort of legislation that makes "normies" hate a minority even more
 

Koomaster

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Sinatar said:
Why would anyone list their sexual preference on their resume? That's just weird.
I was asking that before I read the article. But listing relevant experience with an LGBT organization is very reasonable to include on a resume.
 

JGS

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SolKane said:
The experience listed was relevant to the job, so there's no reason not to include other than fear of discrimination.
That's exactly the reason. There's nothing that could even be done unless they blatantly hired someone less qualified which is rarely proveable - especially in a bad economy.

I see the point if that's all the experience an applicant has, but then I would likely shop around for companies that were gay friendly first rather than just liberal.
 

TheSeks

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South and Midwest discriminates against things that are scary and not understandable to them! Shock and awe!

I'm honestly not surprised.
 

SolKane

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JGS said:
That's exactly the reason. There's nothing that could even be done unless they blatantly hired someone less qualified which is rarely proveable - especially in a bad economy.

I see the point if that's all the experience an applicant has, but then I would likely shop around for companies that were gay friendly first rather than just liberal.

Well as the applicant you're basically forced into making a choice between a) making yourself less competitive (leaving off that experience) or b) opening yourself up to possible discrimination (including the experience). Nobody should have to make that choice applying for a job, especially when your sexual orientation has no bearing on your ability to do 99% of most jobs (the obvious exceptions are for people in the sex trade).
 

bionic77

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If you list any kind of progressive association I am pretty sure it will decrease your chances of getting hired at almost any business.
 

ivysaur12

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bionic77 said:
If you list any kind of progressive association I am pretty sure it will decrease your chances of getting hired at almost any business.

They actually talk about that in the article.
 

JGS

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SolKane said:
Well as the applicant you're basically forced into making a choice between a) making yourself less competitive (leaving off that experience) or b) opening yourself up to possible discrimination (including the experience). Nobody should have to make that choice applying for a job, especially when your sexual orientation has no bearing on your ability to do 99% of most jobs (the obvious exceptions are for people in the sex trade).
I agree and it's a fact that companies do not disciminate by law.

However, we also know that it's a fact that they do disciminate in practice and particularly when they are picking between candidates. They will pick the one they like basically. Unless that is the primary experience, then it just appears as egging them on or testing them without a way to show them they flunked the test.
bionic77 said:
If you list any kind of progressive association I am pretty sure it will decrease your chances of getting hired at almost any business.
I think if you list just about any agenda or political group without having an inside connection, you diminish your odds.
 

GabDX

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The two resumes were very similar in terms of the applicant's qualifications, but one resume for each opening mentioned that the applicant had been part of a gay organization in college.

The resumes should have been exactly the same except for the gay organization part. They may not have being truly equivalent but just similar. Maybe the straight resume was just slightly better and that could explain the 4.3% difference (which is very little). We'll never know. I'm not saying there is no descrimination against homosexuals but this study doesn't prove anything.
 

ivysaur12

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GabDX said:
The resumes should have been exactly the same except for the gay organization part. They may not have being truly equivalent but just similar. Maybe the straight resume was just slightly better and that could explain the 4.3% difference (which is very little). We'll never know. I'm not saying there is no descrimination against homosexuals but this study doesn't prove anything.

You can't submit the exact same resume to the same job. And that's why they aggregate this through a large pool of jobs.
 

Jeels

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This is one of the reasons I took "Muslim Student Association" off my resume, despite winning Math/Science/Video/Writing competitions through that organization. There are people that will read Muslim and freak out.
 

TheMan

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Renmei

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Now to be fair, if I was an employer I would be far less likely to hire a Billy Joe Bob Jr compared to a normal non-hick sounding name. It works both ways, that is why I leave all political, religious and any controversial organizations off my resume cus *gasp* all employers are human and have their own biases.
 

Jeels

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Renmei said:
Now to be fair, if I was an employer I would be far less likely to hire a Billy Joe Bob Jr compared to a normal non-hick sounding name. It works both ways, that is why I leave all political, religious and any controversial organizations off my resume cus *gasp* all employers are human and have their own biases.

That's fine and dandy, but I can't change my Middle Eastern name for example. Should I change my name to a white person name?
 

Wthermans

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SolKane said:
Well as the applicant you're basically forced into making a choice between a) making yourself less competitive (leaving off that experience) or b) opening yourself up to possible discrimination (including the experience). Nobody should have to make that choice applying for a job, especially when your sexual orientation has no bearing on your ability to do 99% of most jobs (the obvious exceptions are for people in the sex trade).
I agree, nobody should have to make that choice, but how do you enforce fairness?
 
Employers will look for any reason to discriminate. I had difficulty finding a job until I took my college degrees off of retail applications. The moment I did that I started getting calls.
 

Renmei

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Jeels said:
That's fine and dandy, but I can't change my Middle Eastern name for example. Should I change my name to a white person name?
I'm 3rd generation Chinese-American. My name is both Eric and Shen Hao Lan, take a wild guess which one goes on my resume~ yes, feel free to change your first name or at least take a western sounding nickname.

Some thing you can't and shouldn't change, like your last name, how attractive you are, how fit, tall, skin tone, accent ect. All of the above can help or hurt you getting a job based on the employer's biases and preferences. Welcome to life. And to be honest as pro gay rights as I am, I'm not sure if I would want to hire an overly outspoken homosexual. I don't want to hear about your private sex life, gay or straight. Learn how to tone things like that down and be professional. You have every right in the world to speak your mind and express yourself, doesn't mean you are shielded from the consequences.
 
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