But calling Europeans racist isn't edgy enough for me. So I'm going to pretend racism is an American concept like half the people here.
It's him.Is OP that crazy guy who hates Europe or am I thinking of someone else?
While it's not as simple as saying "the US are the worst".. Did you just read the title? Come on.This doesn't surprise me at all. The US get's the most attention for it due to the constant massive news cycle and huge population.
But the idea the current US is inherently more racist than the rest of the world has always seemed fairly flawed to me
Is OP that crazy guy who hates Europe or am I thinking of someone else?
While it's not as simple as saying "the US are the worst".. Did you just read the title? Come on.
What are you even trying to say?
I don't think anyone did what you're accusing half the people here of.
What really surprises me is eastern Europe. WTF?
No i've thought this always. In fact I'm pretty damn sure it.
Most European nations have tiny black populations in comparison to the US. The US is going to thus have much more obvious race problems thrust into the spotlight.
Most countries in Europe are sitting at single digit black percentage populations while the US is at 12.3%. Put in other people of color such as Hispanics at 12.5% and yeah, it shouldn't be surprising at all why you see much more race conflict in the US.
Its not because Europe is some bastion of peace and no conflict
Well, OP was baiting exactly that.Perhaps not. But I do feel many posts insinuate it.
So tell me.
Why have you always thought "the place where I'm from can't be worse"?
I don't even want to compare, because this comparison isn't exactly productive.
But to me, it sounds like you are biased, simply because you don't want the bad feeling of the country you feel connected to being worse than another place.
So, to summarize:
- Color coding between US and Europe map is misleading, countries the OP mentioned actually score better
- The methodology is frowned upon and not reliable
- The samples weren't picked to ensure to make the study representative, instead people were self-selecting themselves for the study
I'm not. I'm not even saying Europe is more racist than the US.
But I find it pretty unlikely its less so. Racism exists everywhere. Again, its a hell of a lot easier for countries that are 80%+ White to talk about how non racist their populations are when there is very very little mixing in terms of ethnicity in comparison to somewhere like the US.
There are also some other countries that rank well among attitudes towards blacks like Belgium, Austria and Slovenia.
Why is it unlikely?
It exists everywhere, obviously it'll be worse in some places, less bad in others.
I also don't think low minority percentages are an excuse when we look at percentage stuff like incarceration rates, poverty, police shootings, and so on.
(but again, not saying the US are worse, I lack the numbers to make any such claim)
Well the prison systems in the US in general are a complete clusterfuck. We have way too many people incarcerated period (though obviously much worse for different minorities)
I'm just saying I see the idea toted around sometimes that Europe puts in the US to shame in terms of race relations, and I find that highly unlikely. We have tons of our own problems with race no question. Especially I would say institutionalized race problems (Prisons, police, etc.) are where America really falls short. Not so much in individuals (though of course like everywhere there are plenty of racist assholes)
I edited my comment a bit.
So do I understand you correctly, your problem is that people think Europe is much better?
Not just that it's better?
While this (positively!) surprised me, I think this can be explained that Austrians are directing their racism towards other peoples, and blacks aren't exactly a big part of the population here.
Well the prison systems in the US in general are a complete clusterfuck. We have way too many people incarcerated period (though obviously much worse for different minorities)
I'm just saying I see the idea toted around sometimes that Europe puts in the US to shame in terms of race relations, and I find that highly unlikely. We have tons of our own problems with race no question. Especially I would say institutionalized race problems (Prisons, police, etc.) are where America really falls short. Not so much in individuals (though of course like everywhere there are plenty of racist assholes)
No it's him. Look at his post history. It's almost comedic how biased and bigoted he is toward Europe. Nothing he says should be taken seriously.
I don't have any problem with anything. Just discussing.
I just think the idea the US population is more overtly racist than most of the world is probably a flawed one is all.
Weird..I'm always told otherwise..🤔
According to the exact study that the OP posted but forgot to read, they were right lolWeird..I'm always told otherwise..🤔
Weird..I'm always told otherwise..🤔
France, you're supposed to be the cool country
Oh my god, he's the guy who wrote that ridiculous post about european people eating only "shitty boring combinations of meat and potatoes".
Utterly utterly misinformed.They're largely backwards racists who keep voting for governments who only introduce policies to make them poorer. It was Thatcher who destroyed their way of life.
They also voted for Brexit. So its tough to have any sympathy for them. Brexit will only impoverish and kill them off even earlier. The country will be better off many would say. I mean what can you do about people intent on remaining poor and backwards? They would rather vote for the tories and just read the Sun and watch football. That is their way of life.
And why do you find it so unlikely? Half of your country voted for racism, bigotry and inequality just last fall.
So, to summarize:
- Color coding between US and Europe map is misleading, countries the OP mentioned actually score better
- The methodology is frowned upon and not reliable
- The samples weren't picked to ensure to make the study representative, instead people were self-selecting themselves for the study
More racist than the US
*if you completely ignore the US graph and pretend it doesn't exist, that is.
We try!
It really depends of the city or region of France tho. I was born and grew up in the south, in one of the most racist place of the country, and I'm brown, but it's only been 6/7 years since I feel the racism around me. Before that, either I was too naïve, or people were low key racist and are only coming out thanks to the rise of open xenophobia in EU/USA.
Now I'm in Paris, and it's a more diverse city, I feel better here. But's still not perfect...
And to drive home the shift in topics, this is what the lad described about folks of Northern England in one of the other threads.
Utterly utterly misinformed.
I think the point he's making is that Europeans haven't developed racist beliefs against black people to the same extent as the United States, because they have dramatically lower populations of black people in their country (and fewer interactions to base those negative stereotypes on). Racism in Europe is more likely to be expressed towards other populations, that are more prevalent in Europe, like the Romani.
Racism exists everywhere, but the targets will change, depending on the populations.
What really surprises me is eastern Europe. WTF?
Wonder what Russia's colour would be? And it's score?
That's really not what he said though. He said he found it unlikely that Americans are more racist than Europeans.
First one: Whatever the author wants it to be. Second one: Probably something a bit higher than Eastern Europe.
But again, these scores are just as useless as the colors.
Oh my god, he's the guy who wrote that ridiculous post about european people eating only "shitty boring combinations of meat and potatoes".
Read the rest of the thread for an answer. For some reason, OP never came back (and never updated his post).I don't know how much I trust this.