1 CPU probably means 4 cores. Technically these consoles have two CPUs but they're designed to be clustered so they work as one.
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Substance Engine benchmark implies PS4 CPU is faster than Xbox One's
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1 CPU probably means 4 cores. Technically these consoles have two CPUs but they're designed to be clustered so they work as one.
Get it how you live....
McHuj
Member
Now we just need to know the answer for why? Tools? OS/Hypervisor overhead? Higher clock?
NineTailedGoku
Neo Member
While I'm happy to hear this, who is Matt? a developer I presume?
Considering PC's need extra processing for background tasks, Ripping videos etc, Games generally not being CPU bound Versus DEDICATED CPU's each with 8 Cores of various tasks designed for each Core. It all helps, PS4 GPU compute will be interesting also.
It sounds to me like dropping Kinect out of the box and charging $400 would STILL be too much in comparison to their chief competition...
They've got zero performance advantage and that's so sad for the Xbox pedigree of being THE multiplatform destination for best console performance for 2 previous generations.
They've got zero performance advantage and that's so sad for the Xbox pedigree of being THE multiplatform destination for best console performance for 2 previous generations.
It sounds to me like dropping Kinect out of the box and charging $400 would STILL be too much in comparison to their chief competition...
They've got zero performance advantage and that's so sad for the Xbox pedigree of being THE multiplatform destination for best console performance for 2 previous generations.
Looking at the hardware it's abundantly clear that a different team designed the Xbox One than did the previous consoles.
TrojanBlade
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But they said MS will not give PS4 30% advantage over the XB1 .... lol...this statement feels more and more joke every time a new revelation is made about XB1 vs PS4 hardware
The disparity b/w the multiplats will widen as we move forward and 1st party PS4 games will destroy XB1 in terms of tech.
Cerny did an amazing job with the PS4.
The disparity b/w the multiplats will widen as we move forward and 1st party PS4 games will destroy XB1 in terms of tech.
Cerny did an amazing job with the PS4.
IAmRandom31
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Are you saying the Xbox One's CPU does is not handling background tasks, videos, etc? Hell the Xbox One OS is more bloated then even a PC's ( 3 OS's ), which I never thought would be possible.
McHuj
Member
They like MS first party games better?
Marc
Member
I am inside your home right now, bet you didn't even know.
Interesting news but splitting hairs a bit, not exactly going to decide things like the GPU will.
Dead Prince
Banned
the exclusives maybe?
While the CPUs may not be the most ideal in terms of power, I think what gives this a bit more oomph is that MS was shouting their clock increase from the rooftops. Which most people assumed put the Bone's CPU slightly above PS4's. Now they don't even have that. That appreciable gap between the 2 consoles gets a little wider...
opticalmace
Member
Aaaand, we're done here.
That looks soooo bad. Could they not have tried another take?
ArchedThunder
Banned
Not "more" RAM, better RAM.
So 'CPU' in this benchmark definitely refers to individual cores rather than all of them?
Because the cleanest explanation appears to be that the PS4 has 7 available cores vs. 6 for the Xbone. Otherwise I make the CPU's clockspeed 2.04GHz?
better launch titles
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not really, but that's what has been clung to for the last 4-6 months, because the value of a system is deeply judged by the titles available in the first 2-3 months of its 5 years life.....
Killing_Joke
Member
Not sure why everyone surprised. Just because MS announced upclock didn't mean it was better. Not sure why anyone would believe anything they say in the first place.
BrokenIcarus
Member
What does this mean?
Microsoft has spent 10+ years through 2 generations having the most powerful overall console (outside of lengthy and deep coding on certain PS3 games). It's a difficult idea to get past that Microsoft would not only fumble the ball, but would step on it with cleats and deflate the ball as well.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Have you seen the size of the cooler on the APU?
You don't have a 7850 built into your CPU either, mine runs at 50c with an aftermarket triple slot cooler and I have a tower cooler on my CPU.
After it was revealed that PS4 has the new AMD sound chip in it I think Shape's advantage is gone too.
They invented DirectX?
If the PS4 didn't exist, The XBO would be sitting quite pretty as a next gen console. It's only because Cerny stepped to the hardware plate and hit a grand slam against the terrible pitcher that is Microsoft's new Xbox management team that makes XBO look like trash in comparison.
If the PS4 didn't come out with such a fantastic console design that catered exclusively to both developers and gamers at a lower price, the XBO wouldn't look so bad.
a Master Ninja
Member
Well at least the controller part is highly debatable.
GameAddict411
Member
in reality it's not really hard to improve on the PS4 hardware wise, so it was MS's decision to make the XO weaker no doubt about it.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
First party games.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I have stock everything on my CPU and it runs @ 31c idle, 40-45c under load.
GPU is a 6770, normal. Runs 40c idle, 60-68c under load.
But true, it is not all in one.
Actually, go look at the benchmarks in todays games for a 7770. What you see on the X1 is just what you would expect from a bandwidth starved 7770. 7770's can barely run 30fps / 1080p in todays games if you want to keep fidelity up. You either drop resolution, keep some fidelity ( still have to compromise ), or keep resolution and drop fidelity quite a bit.
So far devs seem to be dropping the resolution.
For example, here is Crysis 2 ( ! ) attempting max details @ 1080p on the 7770.
Regardless of what the PS4 can do, a next-gen system having so much trouble with 1080p (with some games running at an embarrassing 720p) is just shit no matter how you slice it. 1080p should be a bottom of the barrel standard this gen.
ArchedThunder
Banned
That isn't even a good thing, Valve has said while porting games to Linux that OpenGL is much more efficient than DirectX.
That's a tiny fraction of the 80 million current 360 owners, I guarantee.
With the CPU it was a combination of MS bragging about the upclock and Sony being quiet on the matter despite sharing every other spec of their console to the public, basically everyone read between the lines and jumped to a conclusion.
Can Crusher
Banned
Pretty embarrassing. There's nothing to hold on to now.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Seriously, the games don't lie.
Exclusive games & features? The same reasons why people bought weaker consoles in previous gens?
Buying a system for "only exclusive games" is what Nintendo enjoyed with the Gamecube as well as the Wii-U. Not sure that's a good thing.
MS messed up by not catering to the millions of people that made Xbox a household name by wanting a powerhouse of a console.
GameAddict411
Member
I have stock everything on my CPU and it runs @ 31c idle, 40-45c under load.
GPU is a 6770, normal. Runs 40c idle, 60-68c under load.
But true, it is not all in one.
Actually, go look at the benchmarks in todays games for a 7770. What you see on the X1 is just what you would expect from a bandwidth starved 7770. 7770's can barely run 30fps / 1080p in todays games if you want to keep fidelity up. You either drop resolution, keep some fidelity ( still have to compromise ), or keep resolution and drop fidelity quite a bit.
So far devs seem to be dropping the resolution.
For example, here is Crysis 2 ( ! ) attempting max details @ 1080p on the 7770.
the PS4 GPU is faster and more advanced than all of the GPUs in the benchmark above.
Games my friend, games.
Wow. I wonder if this is because of virtualization overhead...
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