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Sunset Overdrive runs at 30 fps/900p
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Zomba13
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I hate the whole "is you can see it you can go there" thing. It's never true. Never. Even in something like Skyrim where it is mostly true you still have boundaries at the worlds end preventing you from going where the game doesn't want you to go (even though the game does have very low detail modelling of almost the entire world).
Destiny with it's "we could go there, it's all modelled *throws grenade to show collision* but we don't have time" and in game it's just an instant death pit that is actually locked off after the first mission.
Still looking forward to this game and I can tell I'll still have fun with this but the whole "go anywhere" thing, unless the entire game world is on an island, is always bullshit.
Disappointed about the 30/900p thing but eh, what are you gonna do, it's an Xbone game.
The inverse-squared principle, applied to optical information, isn't bullshit.
dragonelite
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Yes depends off course how well your eyes are and if you know what to look for.
Dictator93
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Well it does not taken in the fact that lower spatial resolution leads to more obvious temporal aliasing7flickering. Which is super obvious even if you are further away from the screen.
Once again, comparing the pixels of a movie vs. comparing the pixels from rasterized graphics should not be done.
That graph holds the truth perhaps for a still imagine that is perfectly anti-aliased, but not for a moving flickery image.
cleveridea
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totally fine as long as they eliminate screen tearing
this was the third must have game for me I wanted that made me justify & buy an xbox one.
this was the third must have game for me I wanted that made me justify & buy an xbox one.
This particular graph may be bullshit. However the concept is completely valid.
The further you get from the screen, the less detail you can see and as such higher resolutions aren't necessary.
Opposite is true for screen size as shown.
In my case the difference between 900p and 1080p is almost negligible and only noticeable in a direct comparison.
Personally I couldn't tell you if one game is 1080 and the other in 900 unless I had two images side by side. In motion I find the difference to be pretty negligible.
SuperSonic1305
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Did you see the reaction to UFC or NHL 15? People notice immediately when it's not 1080p.
cleveridea
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There is a noticeable difference between 900 and 1080p, eg my laptop often has to runs games in 900p vs 1080 and I notice a difference on that. I also was surprised that I could tell the difference with PS4 and AC4 pre and post 1080p patch.
Its noticeable but not a night and day difference. Having both consoles. I'll always take a 1080p PS4 game over 900p xbox one game but its not a big quality difference.
Dead rising 3 is my favorite game on my xbox one, and thats 720p I believe!
Its noticeable but not a night and day difference. Having both consoles. I'll always take a 1080p PS4 game over 900p xbox one game but its not a big quality difference.
Dead rising 3 is my favorite game on my xbox one, and thats 720p I believe!
Freeman
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No way it is negligible, I don't get why people keep repeating this.
The further you sit from the screen the less resolution you need, just as if you close your eyes you don't even need a screen.
outunderthestars
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This is the game that has forced me to get an Xbox One.
Can't wait to pick this up at the store!
I ended up buying an xbox one for this game as well. Kind of excited about it finally launching.
Indeed.
This game looks amazing, though. I can pretend I don't care just for this one.
Summer Haze
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Not gonna lie, I'm a little disappointed it's not 1080p. The world looks gorgeous, I think a 1080p native res would have done complemented it nicely.
Oh well, day one regardless.
Oh well, day one regardless.
It applies to all optical information. It's a property of light. If there are obvious artifacts in the image they will certainly be conveyed from the source, but you're talking about tangential specifics to counterpoint a general principle. I responded to someone saying the graph was bullshit, and I gave the specific scientific principle that contradicted that assertion.
WhiskerFrisker
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There is absolutely nothing saying this is the "official" resolution for Xbox one games in the future.
I'm saying personally the difference is almost negligible. I can see it when looking at two images side by side however in motion I wouldn't see a difference. It certainly doesn't impact my enjoyment of a game.
Sure, if you ignore all the games where this isn't the case. Forza Horizon 2 is 1080p 30fps and is absolutely gorgeous.
H2A multiplayer will be 1080p 60fps.
Forza 5 is 1080p 60fps.
digoutyoursoul
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I'll be surprised if you make it to member here
DarthWalden
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As someone who couldn't tell the difference between the beta and retail versions of destiny I'm more than okay with this
until I get a bigger tv
cleveridea
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Yeah dead rising 3 is my favorite Xbox One game and its 720p.
It is a bit of surprise given the simple graphical style, but 900p is fine. This is my most anticipated Xbox One game coming out this year for me (and getting FH2 and Halo MCC).
It is a bit of surprise given the simple graphical style, but 900p is fine. This is my most anticipated Xbox One game coming out this year for me (and getting FH2 and Halo MCC).
Summer Haze
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How far is far? I sit 10 feet away from my 42 inch TV and can easily tell the difference between 900p and 1080p. I'd say it depends on the distance and the size.
ProvenDeadly
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Because they told you it was.
BeforeU
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Troll much?
SenjutsuSage
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Please, I need help understanding what this means. Has the game officially stopped looking awesome?
Dictator93
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I agree with your point (it is obvious), but the reduced optical information due to aliasing is different between 2 images of diffrent original information.
Or no?
RespectThySole
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I didn't notice a difference with the retail version of Destiny either. Maybe it's because the TV I game on is only 42"?
Summer Haze
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Is this another one of those 'I can't tell the difference, so I doubt anyone else can' posts?
And I remember plenty of people saying the IQ of the MP wasn't as good as the SP, we just didn't know why due to us being told it was 1080p native. There was an immediate difference, though, after going directly from the SP to the MP.
I have a 42 inch too. It just depends on the person. Some people are more sensitive to it than others, simple as that.
rokkerkory
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oh you're a junior
shadowfall
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I do not have Xbox One. I would get this game if I had one. As long as the frame rate is consistent, I do not mind 900p. Game looks fun. After the dark tone of resistance series, I am happy they went with the lighter one for Sunset Overdrive.
Still a little upset by the fact Insomniac did not make this game for PS4 given their long association with Sony :-(
People might say Bungie did the same for Microsoft but atleast Destiny was on Xbox consoles.
Oh well.
Still a little upset by the fact Insomniac did not make this game for PS4 given their long association with Sony :-(
People might say Bungie did the same for Microsoft but atleast Destiny was on Xbox consoles.
Oh well.
Hmm trolling, fud, and port beg all in one post.
KaiserBecks
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People keep mentioning a "locked" framerate. What does that mean? I know you can cap it, but how would you lock it?
Anddddd bye bye.
Doesn't drop any lower than 30, doesn't go any higher than 30.
Ken Masters
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29.5-30.5 FPS at all times is locked
Summer Haze
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If I remember correctly, you have to be able to run a game above the target resolution consistently in order to then be able lock it at the target framerate. But don't quote me on that.
A "cap" means a speed limit on the highest variable framerate. A "lock" means a fixed framerate that doesn't deviate.
Steve McQueen
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Looks great, don't have a problem with 900p. Hope framerate is locked...you are constantly moving in this game so if there are hiccups...the experience will be not as good.
I'm not defending his post, but I though was quite know from awhile that xbone can't handle 1080p game without big compromises. Not sure why he is shocked or why you try to defend the hardware using opinable example (1080p games exist on ps360 too at this point). Old news however.
Thats cool, as long as the game is fun. I already knew that the Xbone I bought was never going to match my PS4 visually. People just need to accept the Xbone is weaker and move on, then maybe we will stop caring about the weird sub-1080p resolutions that games end up being on the system.
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