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Super Metroid really is one hell of a game
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Pancakes R Us
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What a game.
I love Super Metroid always and forever.
I love Super Metroid always and forever.
TheDinoman
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Fusion is fun but Prime is definitely superior in comparison. Fusion kinda got carried away with its bigger focus on narrative and general linearity (let's face it, it was the harbinger of things to come with Other M). Prime on the other hand is basically classic 2D Metroid through and through, only done in a 1st person perspective.
It and Super Metroid are the king and queen of the whole series.
sixteen-bit
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Cliche af, but it's my fave SNES game
ZeroMaverick
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It's great until the last quarter of the game when they introduce the grappling hook and the space jump (or whatever it's called). Those mechanics are so finicky and not fun to use that I almost gave up on the game completely.
I ended up feeling frustrate way more than I was having fun.
I ended up feeling frustrate way more than I was having fun.
Played super after fusion, am2r and zero mission so it felt aged for me without some QOL additions like hp and missile stations near each other or by chozo statues and ledge grab. There is something with how Samus moves in super thats bug me and its the least screw attack I liked in the series in the way its jump (always find it weird).
Maybe it gave me a "Seinfeld is unfunny" vibe because I played also after all castlevanias too.I know its importance for the metroidvania genre but I had more fun with other metroids games...and I am not gonna try Other M for a long time.
Maybe it gave me a "Seinfeld is unfunny" vibe because I played also after all castlevanias too.I know its importance for the metroidvania genre but I had more fun with other metroids games...and I am not gonna try Other M for a long time.
AtomicShroom
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What other game features 3 dead people right up there on its title screen?
And people wonder why the fanbase is upset over Federation Force...
Super Metroid had some serious balls.
And people wonder why the fanbase is upset over Federation Force...
Super Metroid had some serious balls.
Baleoce
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It boggles the mind how this fantastic game (commonly in most top 10s) only sold 1.42mil lifetime physical units. I'm not implying that figure is bad in and of itself, but I'm comparing it in relation to sales figures for other SNES games and franchises. It's kind of sobering tbh.
Super Metroid is just so fucking good. I love wall jumping; while Zero Mission has more intuitive controls, there's just something satisfying about the way Super Metroid does it.
It says something that I played Super for the first time in the late 2000s and still found it an amazing game.
It says something that I played Super for the first time in the late 2000s and still found it an amazing game.
ElectricBlanketFire
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It's the greatest game of all time.
There are probably several thousand adjectives I would use to describe Super Metroid before this one.
MetalFreak
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Amazing game. Love it so much.
I've tried to get into Super Metroid three times so far, most recently on the N3DS VC. It just doesn't hold my attention. I think it's because the jump feels off, the way it loses all momentum and is more vertical than horizontal regardless of your running speed. More clumsy than athletic.
I actually preferred Samus's handling in Zero Mission. Felt a lot more snappy and responsive than Super Metroid's floaty physics, which felt like it took longer to get through the world.
Super Metroid is a staggeringly good game. I never got a chance to play the original version, just the Wii VC version, but it's amazing how well it holds up. It's incredibly effective at making players feel anxiety and anticipation early in the game, when you don't have a lot of gear and you don't know the layout of the map, but it seamlessly switches over to making you feel powerful once you've got more stuff and a good idea of where you are. The kind of tension that I felt playing Super Metroid for the first time is something that I rarely get from modern Metroidvanias, except maybe Axiom Verge.
Nailed it. Super Metroid feels floaty, and it makes navigating the world a pain in the ass.
RobFox64tm
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I always preferred the "floaty" controls of Super Metroid, to be honest. It made Samus feel like she was really there and subject the physics and laws of nature in the world.
The GBA games didn't feel as tactile to me (although I still enjoyed them).
Glass Rebel
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I think it's still the best in its genre as far as level design is concerned but Zero Mission slightly edges it out for me because of the controls and physics which make it more enjoyable to play.
I really miss 2D Metroid.
I really miss 2D Metroid.
sixteen-bit
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The cliche is that, like many other people, it's my favorite SNES game. Feel free to read the rest of the post.
So Zebes just cancels out forward momentum when you jump and makes you hang-time vertically for a solid second before falling like a rock? Is that how gravity works on some planets?
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To be honest, not saving the animals isn't that big of a deal considering they canonically live as shown in Metroid Fusion.
But then if you don't save them it's a TIME PARADOX.
Vital Tundra
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Not as good as Prime, but only by the hair. Avoid Other M.
Right? Maybe I'm just not into Metroid's exploration as I think I am. But aside from the slow movement, hearing the ambient music also somehow grated on me when getting lost. Prime did this, too. When getting frustated over how slow things are progressing, the lower-tempo music compounded that irate feeling further. Like trying to get past a wall of slow-walking elderly.
That's true, and I think even Sakurai mentioned playing Metroid(s?) to understand why Samus controlled the way she does -- he figured it was to help players aim whilst they're jumping up and down.
I imagine it was probably to also help people scale the vertical tunnels, which they'd no doubt come across quite often. And in fact, I don't think Super Metroid allowed Samus to grab onto ledges and pull herself up -- something Zero Mission also did, for better or worse.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I always preferred Super Metroids controls.
Maybe I just mastered them years ago and playing fusion and zero after just didn't feel as familiar.
Supers controls just feel natural to me. I can walljump the whole way up that first long vertical room no matter how long it's been since I last played the game.
Edit: that ledge grab was such a cheap move to add. I much preferred walljumping up and over
Maybe I just mastered them years ago and playing fusion and zero after just didn't feel as familiar.
Supers controls just feel natural to me. I can walljump the whole way up that first long vertical room no matter how long it's been since I last played the game.
Edit: that ledge grab was such a cheap move to add. I much preferred walljumping up and over
TheDinoman
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The ironic thing about that is that in Smash, Samus hardly even plays like the way shes does in Metroid. In Metroid games you're primarily shooting shit out of her arm cannon...in Smash however she bashes peoples' heads with it and does a bunch of random kicks and physical attacks.
Kinda funny when you consider how different Smash Samus feels, especially her Charge Beam.
It doesn't. Fusion was the first Metroid game that allowed Samus to do that.
Super Metroid isn't perfect. It has some minor control issues (weapon cycling, wall jumps), noob bridge, and Ridley is a hard gear check...
...but overall it is still one of the best games of all time. There are modern imitators like Guacamelee, while good, don't match Super Metroid because they have some fundamental flaws in how they approach exploration, item discovery, and powerup gating. Like in Guacamelee, you use the red power on the red door and the blue power on the blue door. You don't get to feel clever for figuring out how to use your new power to open up the map.
...but overall it is still one of the best games of all time. There are modern imitators like Guacamelee, while good, don't match Super Metroid because they have some fundamental flaws in how they approach exploration, item discovery, and powerup gating. Like in Guacamelee, you use the red power on the red door and the blue power on the blue door. You don't get to feel clever for figuring out how to use your new power to open up the map.
I should point out Super Metroid also has color coded doors.
I agree with this 100%. I liked Fusion quite a bit (never played ZM, but I'm assuming the jump is the same), but the jump always felt so jerky and erratic compared to Super's. I like the slower pace of SM's jump; makes it feel like the world has weight.
RobFox64tm
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Chill. The controls weren't perfect, of course. Super Metroid just felt better to me is all. The GBA games were too loose feeling to me. They worked fine, but Samus's movements didn't feel as convincing to me. It's kind of hard to explain.
Omegasquash
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Why yes, yes it is one hell of a game. I guess I lucked out in playing it the first time, since it was at a really weird time of life. It was a go-to for just getting away, and man oh man, did it do the trick.
Pretty easy to misread that as written.
hydragonwarrior
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No, play Federation Force first for the true Metroid experience.
This game never gets enough credit. People should mention it more.
Definitely one of my favorite games of all time, though. It was way too much for me when my older brother and sister rented it when I was a little kid. I didn't get back around to it until I played a friend's copy with him in high school and it blew my mind.
Definitely one of my favorite games of all time, though. It was way too much for me when my older brother and sister rented it when I was a little kid. I didn't get back around to it until I played a friend's copy with him in high school and it blew my mind.
But those color coded doors aren't the totality of powerup gating. You use the Hi Jump boots to access Kraid. You use the power bomb to bust into Maridia. You use the Varia suit to enter extreme heat. In Super Metroid, the gating is often a mystery. You can feel clever when you remember when you were blocked and you can go "oh I can use this to go through that now". In Guacamelee, you earn the red power and you look at all the points on the map where there is a red door. It is too obvious. The color coded doors are the only way it gates.
Remember the flamethrower from Super Metroid?
Ironically, homing missiles, the flamethrower, and the grapple lasso all showed up in the Metroid Prime series after Smash Bros.
QuantumZebra
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As someone who shamefully never played it back in the day.. I picked it up on Wii U Virtual Console and was fucking blown away.
I still have yet to beat it but it flew into my top 20 games of all time after about 10 hours played.
Its *so* good. So well crafted, polished, etc...
It reminded me of playing Demon's Souls for the first time. I'm a sucker for games that essentially say "fuck you, figure it out".
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Alex_Mexico
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SM is great but I consider both Zero Mission and AM2R better. Off with Samus' floaty controls and slow run (in comparison). I also didn't play SM until sometime around 2008 on Wii VC so I lack the rose tinted nostalgia goggles of SM.
Just don't skip AM2R and ZM. I implore you.
Do skip Other M. That shit never happened.
Just don't skip AM2R and ZM. I implore you.
Do skip Other M. That shit never happened.
TheDinoman
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That rendition of Brinstar Red Soil...so damn good. So beautiful and mysterious. It perfectly embodies the atmosphere of Super Metroid.
Greatest Ever
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I don't have much to contribute other than my high opinion of it. It's aged well, and up against other games from its decade it's easily top five.
Between it and Symphony of the Night (because why not open that can of worms), I vary depending on the day. The pacing of Super Metroid is so strong thanks to power ups feeling way more substantial compared to anything received in SotN. That being said, backtracking in SotN is more cohesive for me thanks to the arcade-y controls and combat. I also much prefer the boss fights of SotN.
Gun to my head, first playthrough I'd take Super Metroid, but for a repeat playthrough or speed run I'd enjoy SotN's mechanics more.
Between it and Symphony of the Night (because why not open that can of worms), I vary depending on the day. The pacing of Super Metroid is so strong thanks to power ups feeling way more substantial compared to anything received in SotN. That being said, backtracking in SotN is more cohesive for me thanks to the arcade-y controls and combat. I also much prefer the boss fights of SotN.
Gun to my head, first playthrough I'd take Super Metroid, but for a repeat playthrough or speed run I'd enjoy SotN's mechanics more.
Haven't played Zero Mission, but the map in Super is the indication that you should blow up the tube. It shows the tube room to be "open" above and below the tube (as in, "you can enter the rest of this room - it's larger than a single square").
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