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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty
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Not a fan of third party I see.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Poor Bowser Jr.
Diprosalic
Banned
it's a wish list not a prediction.
This isn't about what they expect, it's about what they hope.
Everybody
me aside
No you're right. Those things are creepy.
Diprosalic
Banned
weird that they use such unpopular characters for that.
i mean for the west who even knows/cares about Lucas, Ice Climbers, Chorus Men, Wolf
nono don't reply that you love these characters, i mean for the greater public.
He's definitely going to be knocked down a peg based on his Shuttle Loop alone. Low tier is a stretch, though. From the demos, we can expect Meta Knight to be better than Link, Zelda, and Little Mac at least.
Jawmuncher
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Top:
1.Snake
2.Palutena
3.Little Mac
4.Ike
5.Lucina
Bottom:
1.Link
2.Marth
3.Ness
4.Toon Link
5.Dark Pit
Don't take offense i'm just throwing all my friends characters on bottom tier.
1.Snake
2.Palutena
3.Little Mac
4.Ike
5.Lucina
Bottom:
1.Link
2.Marth
3.Ness
4.Toon Link
5.Dark Pit
Don't take offense i'm just throwing all my friends characters on bottom tier.
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PadWarrior
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Top
Mario
Mega man
Bowser
Greninja
Pit
Bottom
Shiek
Meta knight
Fox
Marth
Robin
Mario
Mega man
Bowser
Greninja
Pit
Bottom
Shiek
Meta knight
Fox
Marth
Robin
...You and I are going to get along just fine.
Fighting game DLC pricing is tricky... because you present to the consumer that a game with a roster of 30-40-50 characters is worth $50-$60... so how do you price a DLC character?
For the sake of argument, say the game has 50 characters, it's worth 50 bucks, and then will have 5 more DLC characters.
Is each character worth 1 dollar? Because for 50 dollars you get a game with 50 characters.
Is each character worth LESS than 1 dollar? Do you charge for the 'container,' the fighting engine/stage itself? If the GAME with no characters is worth 10 dollars, for example, is each character worth 80 cents?
So what about the DLC characters? Are they somehow worth MORE than an existing character, or are they worth the same? Do you charge 1 dollar each? At what point is it TOO much money? Is 5 each too much?
How do you present to the consumer that a DLC character is worth it when the game already has SO MANY.
For the sake of argument, say the game has 50 characters, it's worth 50 bucks, and then will have 5 more DLC characters.
Is each character worth 1 dollar? Because for 50 dollars you get a game with 50 characters.
Is each character worth LESS than 1 dollar? Do you charge for the 'container,' the fighting engine/stage itself? If the GAME with no characters is worth 10 dollars, for example, is each character worth 80 cents?
So what about the DLC characters? Are they somehow worth MORE than an existing character, or are they worth the same? Do you charge 1 dollar each? At what point is it TOO much money? Is 5 each too much?
How do you present to the consumer that a DLC character is worth it when the game already has SO MANY.
MrSaturn99
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I don't think I could ever willingly wish for anyone to be bottom tier. :/
ErrorMacro
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Top
Zelda
Ganondorf
Rosalina
Megaman (SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT!!)
Samus
Bottom
Meta Knight
Lucario
Marth
Fox
Falco
We're not assuming, we're hoping.
MisterWisp
Member
sorakirosaki
Member
i dont actually think metaknight will be low tier despite what i said on my list but i would like for him to get some nerfs from his opness in brawl lol
also the marth hate is realllll
Ah, I see. My bad then, carry on
In that case:
Top:
1. Lucas
2. Robin
3. Zero Suit Samus
4. Megaman
5. Rosalina
Bottom:
1. Sonic
2. Dr. Mario
3. Shiek
4. Palutena
5. Fox
ratcliffja
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Same here. Ideally everybody could be mastered to be viable. With that said, I'd be ok with Mega Man dominating.
A Link to the Past
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Have we yet considered that the icons no longer have the names in them because the game drops them once you start to unlock more characters? Like, in order to accommodate for space.
Diprosalic
Banned
Uh, no. That's not how it works and I'm pretty strongly against ruining characters and their fighting design because we have other "faces" to push.
Building everyone else up so they are just as effective in their own niche as "the character's in the spotlight" are in theirs is the way to go when designing a roster for Smash or any other fighter. I truly fear for the day when fighting games are made and the key to how shit or godlike a character might be is determined by their current popularity.
And I'm an ex-Marvel 3 player. :lol :lol :lol
Sell it as a bundle, not just one character.
I didn't say that's how it works, or that's how it SHOULD work
It's just my schadenfreude!
That's one solution, but they still end up being 'more expensive' than the characters on disk. 2-3 for 5 bucks is kinda reasonable though.
I'm also a sucker and will almost assuredly buy any and all DLC they publish, as long as they don't get to be ubisoft/EA dumb levels of DLC. Especially not in-app purchases level of DLC. (99cents for 1000 coins!)
sorakirosaki
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this is the only thing about the leak that bugs me while i can see sakurai dropping the names as more characters are unlocked i feel like hes not the type of person to do that :/ but thats just me lol
I see. Fair point. I just remember Sakurai talking about game patches after release and saying he didn't want players playing different versions of the game because they may run into problems.
But I guess Nintendo can go whatever direction they want with the DLC.
(Oh, that's just from memory, sorry I don't have the source).
And then you face the problem of people who only want a single character and refuse to pay extra for the rest. That's what stopped me from buying the Mortal Kombat DLC.
By what? A pic of the day? We only get one of these per day, and it's only been two days!
Like the Gematsu leak, the only thing that can confirm or disconfirm/hinder it is reveals.
Neoriceisgood
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I was hoping to cause a riot or two by asking this.
MisterWisp
Member
Not necessarily. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
Wanted to post that for the heck of it lol
That, and his idea f character balance is to make them particularly strong in one or two places.
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Xpike
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I see absolutely no one buying the retali version then.
Diprosalic
Banned
It's because Sonic's there, isn't it
Sonic is by far the worst of all three, that's for sure.
I don't mind the other two as much but i wouldn't put any other characters under them.
An admirable cause for sure.
Troubled Bat
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Top
1. Mario
2. Sonic
3. Mega Man
4. Pac-Man
5. Ness
Bottom
1. Dr. Mario (if in)
2. Dark Pit (if in)
3. Mii Swordfighter
4. Lucina
5. Snake (if in)
huehuehue
1. Mario
2. Sonic
3. Mega Man
4. Pac-Man
5. Ness
Bottom
1. Dr. Mario (if in)
2. Dark Pit (if in)
3. Mii Swordfighter
4. Lucina
5. Snake (if in)
huehuehue
If the render is the same I will 100% believe it's true.
A Link to the Past
Banned
I wish we had a little more info from the leaker now, to keep the momentum going up to release. Were there any developments today?
And if Ridley is revealed...well...we don't talk about what would happen upon Ridley's reveal.
Shadow Hog
Member
Jesus Christ, you lot, I've had to spend all work day just catching up to this point.
Anyway, clean-ahim:
He has a cutie mark. He's a pony. (Doesn't even look like a cat...)
Anyway, clean-ahim:
Maybe they meant Geese:
He has a cutie mark. He's a pony. (Doesn't even look like a cat...)
The issue is that you can't sell DLC characters at a price of MSRP of game / X characters in base game - Even if the DLC was free, not everyone would download the DLC. You have to find the price that maximizes your profit knowing full well that at no matter the price not everybody who has the game will download the DLC. I think I remember reading that DLC adoption tends to be around 40% or something which is why DLC characters in fighting games tend to be a bit expensive (though ASW tends to take it to the extreme
).A bundle is probably the most cost-effective way to deliver characters to the consumer but then you have to wait till all those characters are done - the companies still have to make money in the mean time and depending on the cost of characters and what not, the company may not want/be able to provide the discount.
MrSaturn99
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