Dr.Thunder
Member
Seems my greatest fear has come true in regards to smash. The 3ds version is indeed holding the Wii U version back. This is extremely disappointing to me.
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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!
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GiantBreadbug
Member
Guys, calm down. Sakurai has the world at his throat when he makes Smash games, so he does his best to keep everyone's expectations tepid. He knows nobody likes cuts, so if they happen, he'll keep them to a minimum.
The roster will be fine, have hope.
The roster will be fine, have hope.
MoogleWizard
Member
http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533
3DS version holding back the Wii U version.
Ugh, make two different games or just cancel the 3DS version. :/
I hope not, Snake is out of place in Smash, he's not a character that anyone associates with Nintendo. Kojima got his wish last time, that's enough free advertising for him. The last MGS on a Nintendo console was for Gamecube, MGSV is not on WiiU, Sakurai would be an idiot to put Snake in Smash again. Especially since he doesn't like third party characters and only wants two or three at the maximum. I'd rather have a more interesting character like Bayonetta, Smash needs more females anyway.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Makes sense, but imo they should focus on the console version. I can't even see myself playing SSB on a handheld.
Do people seriously think Sonic isn't coming back? Seriously? Do you even know why Sonic was in Brawl? Long story short, it was part of SEGA and Nintendo's agreement. SEGA were to make three Wii-exclusive Sonic games, right? And what did Nintendo announce recently? That SEGA would make three Wii U-exclusive Sonic games. Not saying that the deal is identical, but come on. There's no way Nintendo isn't going to push Sonic.
JBtheHunter
Banned
It's only holding it back in terms of the character limit.
http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533
3DS version holding back the Wii U version.
Wow.
This was my greatest fear about the series going handheld. I now expect the roster to be somewhere in between Melee and Brawl in terms of size.
Road of Ease
Member
Why not both?
Seriously - what's keeping them from putting a Melee mode?
I miss Melee's insane speed...
I have literally no friends who would consider getting a 3DS, even for Smash Bros
EDIT: As opposed to they would ALL probably come over to play it on my hypothetical Wii U
Dr.Thunder
Member
That's the only part I really care about...
http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533
3DS version holding back the Wii U version.
There were a lot of dead-weight clones or characters in Brawl that could be taken out and/or replaced with others. Between characters like Fox/Wolf/Falco and Link/Toon Link there ought to be some sort of compromise to be found, and characters like R.O.B. and Ike I'm not expecting to return. That and characters aside it all depends on how much content they're planning to stuff in. Content like SSE and all the extras pushed Brawl to it's bursting limit. I'm not expecting the 3DS to have anywhere near as meaty content as the Wii U version so characters might not be an issue.
I think we can expect a relatively similar roster that's a mild expansion all things considered.
Sounds about right.
Road of Ease
Member
Maybe they could have more characters in the Wii U version but more stages in the 3DS version... would that be a good idea?
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
An that would suck
They should at least keep it at Brawl levels. I'll resent the 3ds version if they reduce the number.
Corronchilejano
Member
There's no way Bayonetta would get included in Smash Brothers.
But that would be awesome.
...Some of you people are absolutely going insane over this news. That's not going to happen
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So Smash 64 physics and speed? YES PLEASE
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It could deconfirm Ice Climbers if they can't figure out how to make them working in 3DS.
Yeah, I'm aware of it, but I can't helped but being worried that we are losing some of important characters like Olimar and Ice Climbers.
If they cut some characters out then I will say that, I wouldn't be happy because We know that SSB 3DS is one that are holding SSB Wii U back because they HAD to do it.
Olimar is not one of the characters I'd be worried about, unless he's on one version but not the other or something.
I'd be very happy with this.
No way, i can't wait to play smash bros on the go. He just needs to remove cross-play and not worry about the rosters being identical. I'd be ok with them being completely different games.
Troubled Bat
Member
I agree.
I hate when there's limitations with things.. Its like how Naruto went into 360.
This is one of my main concerns right now. I want the game to be jam packed with content and I have a feeling Nintendos insistence on having 3ds counterparts to the game will end up hurting it.
If wish they'd have just left Smash on the WiiU. Could have had a bigger team working on it and we'd probably be getting it sooner.
This is good to hear. I know competitive players don't like hearing it- but Melee's hyper-fast/sensitive controls made the game a lot harder to control for many casual/inexperienced players than SSB64, and its good that they're trying to find a balance between the two extremes.
CommandThrower
Member
This new Smash Bros might have a slimmer roster?
Hmmm. This doesn't really bother me right now. I expect this game to have 10 new characters at minimum.
Also, I don't expect this game to have a slim roster just because of the 3DS version. If anything the 3DS version will have a slim amount of stages, which is totally fine. I expect the Wii U version to have a boatload of stages comparable to Brawl, but the 3DS version to have maybe...half the amount of stages of the Wii U version. Wouldn't that free up space for a big roster of characters?
The fact that both versions will have the same amount of characters makes me happy; I don't own a Wii U yet, just a 3DS. I NEED the Wii Fit Trainer in my fighting game life.
Hmmm. This doesn't really bother me right now. I expect this game to have 10 new characters at minimum.
Also, I don't expect this game to have a slim roster just because of the 3DS version. If anything the 3DS version will have a slim amount of stages, which is totally fine. I expect the Wii U version to have a boatload of stages comparable to Brawl, but the 3DS version to have maybe...half the amount of stages of the Wii U version. Wouldn't that free up space for a big roster of characters?
The fact that both versions will have the same amount of characters makes me happy; I don't own a Wii U yet, just a 3DS. I NEED the Wii Fit Trainer in my fighting game life.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
So it seems those 3 characters probably won't be shown today...shame.
But again, who knows still a few hours left.
But again, who knows still a few hours left.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I think it's an excuse. Sakurai has already expressed how he would like to keep the roster smaller so he can focus on balancing them.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Seems he said he'd need to cut down on some characters abilities, not straight cut them out.
Like maybe on the 3DS version Pokemon trainer doesn't show up in the background and motions for special attacks, that sort of stuff. Or on the 3DS maybe Olimar can only carry 3 pikmin around.
Like maybe on the 3DS version Pokemon trainer doesn't show up in the background and motions for special attacks, that sort of stuff. Or on the 3DS maybe Olimar can only carry 3 pikmin around.
I don't even think it has cross-play considering the different stages.
That's hardly a crazy assumption. Especially considering they're redesigning some old characters like Bowser.
I'd rather get Simon, to be honest.I had a feeling Snake wouldn't be returning, but this roster news makes me even more sure that he won't be.
I could see Olimar (not the star of Pikmin 3), ROB, Ike, Toon Link (most likely imo), and maaaaaaaybe Pokemon Trainer (at least, as we know him) on the immediate chopping block.
My first thought is that, as Neiteio pointed out, nobody's getting cut, just "reduced." If it does come to it though, those characters above seem like the first ones to go to me.
My first thought is that, as Neiteio pointed out, nobody's getting cut, just "reduced." If it does come to it though, those characters above seem like the first ones to go to me.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Can you use a 3ds to play people on the Wii U version?
Is it the character limit or just the handling of some multiple characters like IC?
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Wow, cancel the fucking 3DS version. I dont even care about it.
Wheres the rumored Mac, PacMan and Mii?
Wheres the rumored Mac, PacMan and Mii?
Dr.Thunder
Member
Even though I am pretty disappointed that the roster is probably going to be held back by 3ds I still expect about 10 overall newcomers on top of the cut veterans. I only expect around 5 cuts to happen. Wii U version will probably have ton's more music and extras, at least hopefully it will.
If you're discounting Snake Eater 3D because it's not a "console" game, then what an arbitrary qualification.
Wait was it really confirmed that the 3 rumored characters would be revealed today?
Also a slimmed down roster would be lame too, but I really hope he's able to sort stuff out with the 3DS version.
inevitable delay coming
Incendiary
Banned
Yeah, that's the impression I got out of what he said, not "we're cutting a boatload of characters." Just that there are some characters' playstyles that might have to be changed. I could see Pokemon Trainer being a potential problem on 3DS too.
Pretty sure Nintendo's done until the next Direct. But at least we still have Sakurai interviews to look forward to
If f*cking IGN and Kotaku don't reveal everything beforehand
balladofwindfishes
Member
you guys seriously think they'd cut Olimar after Pikmin 3 is released and Olimar being one of the most anticipated newcomers of Brawl and one of the most unique characters?
Come on
What we'll see is probably characters that work slightly different or more simple on the 3DS.
Come on
What we'll see is probably characters that work slightly different or more simple on the 3DS.
"God's Beard!"
Member
I'm only playing on 3ds :-(
Yea, this is how I seen it.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Not directly no. But it is the middleman of Melee and Brawl's speed.
Pokemon Trainer should be first to go IMO. Worthless except for the 3 extra characters in Project M.
But knowing Sakurai, that's why he's definitely back in