I use a bunch, but they're not mainstream software. Stuff like OmniGraffle for example, not available for Windows at all.With the exception of Logic and Final Cut, what exclusive OS X software is there anyway? I don't understand the need for OS X?
Longtime Mac user btw
I use a bunch, but they're not mainstream software. Stuff like OmniGraffle for example, not available for Windows at all.
A 940m is really really slow. I was just making the point that there are (and have been for a while) Ultrabooks with dedicated GPUs.
Notebookcheck has a good overview over pretty much all notebook GPUs.
Cool, thanks.
Looks like it's 980M or bust for me!
not necessarily--a 960m/970m is still pretty powerful
i have a 765m and i could still run tpp at 900p fully maxed out with a locked with dips 30 fps. if i dropped it to mid/high 900p i could run it at 40-60 fps
Remember the Surface Book will ship with custom drivers as well.
Also I find Notebook Check unreliable with it's data.
I've had a 9600m and 670m GTX that performed alot better than most of the tests posted by Notebook check.
Although that may be because of always improving GPU drivers.
Also Surface Book is a gaming device because the Xbox team is contributing ;p
What is this equivalent to?
I'm trying to figure out where that GTX940M to GTX980M GPU line compares to the Desktop GTX GPUs, to get a better idea of what level of gaming I can expect.
the xbox team isn't going to magically make this a gaming laptop
they're starting with a 960m. it's already a gaming laptop
do we have official confirmation?
I did that and it was buggy as all get out.
they're starting with a 960m. it's already a gaming laptop
The fuck? Of course it'll play a few games. It's a windows laptop. Every single one of the things will run games in some capacity.
But I don't see the point in having an OT on the latest Samsung or Asus Ultrabook on gaming side either. What does the Surface Book have to offer in terms of actual gaming hardware? I mean it's an incredible piece of tech but if you're looking to play crysis or any other high-end PC game this thing is dead in the water anyway. There are concessions to be made for such a slim and sleek profile. A dedicated mobile GPU in the base isn't really going to change it into a beast gaming rig and I think we all know this.
And the people playing games on their Surface tablets. Well congrats. I too played Tyrian on my Macbook Air, that doesn't make it a gaming computer. It would be pretty odd to see an OT on the new Macbook Air on gaming side.
The surface book is not a 'gaming laptop'. Just an amazingly designed piece of PC hardware running windows. To think I'd even have to spell this out is weird as hell.
I hope the team behind Surface will be invoved in redesigning XB1 and designing the next console if there is one.
Assuming the dedicated GeForce GPU is even more powerful than Nvidia's own Tegra X1, this could be right up my alley. I far prefer Windows to iOS (and Android) anyway..
You guys can get much better machines than this one on ebay. I'd go hunting there if you're shopping for a new laptop. The one I bought smokes this one specs wise and I only paid $550 for it.
Could that guy in the op look any less interested
there is absolutely no reason to assume anything unless you enjoy spreading bullshit. wait for the 3rd party reviews.
no, but if we're assuming that xbox team is making the drivers than we can assume the other half of that statement is true. unless we're not assuming xbox team is making the drivers, at which point why are we even talking about custom drivers?
I can guarantee that the laptop you bought does not cater to the market Surface Book is aiming for. And just telling us a price and saying it "smokes this one specs wise" really isn't saying much.
Nearly certain that it is. The X1 is only 500 full Gflops (forget the half precision 1Tflop claim). That is trivially easy to beat with mid range laptop chips. The rumored 950M in it is 1800 GFLOPS, if at full clock speed. Even a significant cull back of clock speed would easily leave it well over the X1 and any other ARM SoC.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-950M-vs-GeForce-GTX-660
965m and above will need to be paired with hotter CPUs like the HQ/MQ lines. Ultra form factor should be unfeasible. Tradeoffs tradeoffs.Cool, thanks.
Looks like it's 980M or bust for me!
Ok yeah, thanks. I missed anything specific regarding what GPU might be in the new Surface.
That's... interesting. The X1 GPU is closer to AMD 7790. I doubt it is custom too, since this is Nvidia we're talking about.it has 1 GB of GDDR5. we don't know what it is other than that. theory is its either a custom chip and as a result would explain why MS isn't giving a model number, or it's a low end chip which also explains the aforementioned, or that MS Store support is telling the truth and it's a 960m with custom drivers by Xbox team.
That's... interesting. The X1 GPU is closer to AMD 7790. I doubt it is custom too, since this is Nvidia we're talking about.
It's just standard GPU OCed if I'm not wrong?the alienware alpha had a custom nvidia gpu
I heard it has only 1 GB VRAM.So gaming wise how good is it?
It's just standard GPU OCed if I'm not wrong?
The reviews listed it as "custom OCed" so it likely just means an overclocked off-the-shelf part.from what i can tell it's closest to a OCed GTX 860m, it's not clear if there are more changes to it, but Alienware still listed it as a custom GPU, so there's that.
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can i play titanfall on this machine?
I play titanfall at my surface pro 2. So yes, you can!
If the graphics card is a 970/980 is the best concept ever made.
With the exception of Logic and Final Cut, what exclusive OS X software is there anyway? I don't understand the need for OS X?
Longtime Mac user btw
You should probably wait till the device is out and tested before saying this. The pro 2 destroys the pro 3 in gaming because the 3 overheats and throttles itself to a 386/dx2. I'm not convinced that Microsoft will address this with the pro 4 when they never fixed the 3.
You should probably wait till the device is out and tested before saying this. The pro 2 destroys the pro 3 in gaming because the 3 overheats and throttles itself to a 386/dx2. I'm not convinced that Microsoft will address this with the pro 4 when they never fixed the 3.
the pro 4 is questionable, the surface book i doubt will have this problem
Surface Book though, not Pro 4.You should probably wait till the device is out and tested before saying this. The pro 2 destroys the pro 3 in gaming because the 3 overheats and throttles itself to a 386/dx2. I'm not convinced that Microsoft will address this with the pro 4 when they never fixed the 3.