Gonzo The Great
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How the fuck is J'Tia still in the game? This season is already better than the last one. I came in expecting to like the Brains Tribe the most, but Beauty and Brawn are far more likable, Morgan aside.
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Doctor West
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What are the odds of the cop dude using his spy shack to jerk off?
Damn it. Spoilers ahead but you've already been spoiled by now anyways.
I could tell the Brains tribe had issues as soon as I heard the bragging in the "confessional" type shots. Truly smart people who are also well adjusted are usually smart enough not to brag about being really smart.
I'm actually pissed off about the second tribal council.
Obviously Garrett shouldn't have played the "open forum" card, but I saw where he was coming from and I thought there was no way the tribe would be stupid enough to not vote J'Tia after all she a)Gave them a terrible shelter idea b)Completely and utterly failed the second and perhaps also the first challenges and c) threw the rice in the fire.
Garrett seemed to be the most intelligent player on the tribe by far, and was also their only physical player. He was the reason they were leading in the second challenge until J'Tia screwed everything up by being ridiculously bad at the puzzle. He was also growing to be one of the players I could actually cheer on, especially because I like playing poker myself.
It was even more painful to see him go knowing he could have stayed with the idol, but who honestly would have thought the person who dumped the rice in the fire would not get voted out?
Brains tribe is completely screwed now, and stupid Kass has just earned herself a quick trip out of the game along with everybody else on their tribe. I feel bad for Spencer because aside from bragging way too much in the confessionals he was actually being a good player and not acting like a pretentious asshole like I expected him to.
I have a feeling this will end up as a 1 vs. 1 Brawn vs. Beauty, but the producers will probably save the Brains tribe just because the whole season was about having 3 tribes.
At least there are some players on Brawn I can cheer on, but I'm still pissed to see Garrett go so early.
Also, props to Tony for guessing there'd be an idol clue in the reward.
Finding the idol already gave his ego a big stroke, so I'd say there's a good chance he'll be in the #spyshack with his pants around his waist and the idol in one hand.
I could tell the Brains tribe had issues as soon as I heard the bragging in the "confessional" type shots. Truly smart people who are also well adjusted are usually smart enough not to brag about being really smart.
I'm actually pissed off about the second tribal council.
Obviously Garrett shouldn't have played the "open forum" card, but I saw where he was coming from and I thought there was no way the tribe would be stupid enough to not vote J'Tia after all she a)Gave them a terrible shelter idea b)Completely and utterly failed the second and perhaps also the first challenges and c) threw the rice in the fire.
Garrett seemed to be the most intelligent player on the tribe by far, and was also their only physical player. He was the reason they were leading in the second challenge until J'Tia screwed everything up by being ridiculously bad at the puzzle. He was also growing to be one of the players I could actually cheer on, especially because I like playing poker myself.
It was even more painful to see him go knowing he could have stayed with the idol, but who honestly would have thought the person who dumped the rice in the fire would not get voted out?
Brains tribe is completely screwed now, and stupid Kass has just earned herself a quick trip out of the game along with everybody else on their tribe. I feel bad for Spencer because aside from bragging way too much in the confessionals he was actually being a good player and not acting like a pretentious asshole like I expected him to.
I have a feeling this will end up as a 1 vs. 1 Brawn vs. Beauty, but the producers will probably save the Brains tribe just because the whole season was about having 3 tribes.
At least there are some players on Brawn I can cheer on, but I'm still pissed to see Garrett go so early.
Also, props to Tony for guessing there'd be an idol clue in the reward.
Finding the idol already gave his ego a big stroke, so I'd say there's a good chance he'll be in the #spyshack with his pants around his waist and the idol in one hand.
Short confessionals on Survivor's CBS youtube channel.
Garrett confirms that he didn't have the idol with him at TC. I wonder if production is going to replace it or something.
Garrett confirms that he didn't have the idol with him at TC. I wonder if production is going to replace it or something.
SlowRevolution
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Unless an idol comes into play and hurts them, Tasha/Kass are in a really good spot to be the last two on their tribe. Then they get to go to the other tribes where someone's going to want an extra number. The Brains tribe was probably fucked no matter what (there's no chance that Garrett of all people could've saved them and it's confusing me that people keep saying that when we saw how many dumb things he managed to do in six days), might as well try to just wait it out until you get a new start at the next part of the game.
matthewwhatever
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Malcolm was no scrub. He probably would've won the season if he a) hadn't choked in the Final 4 challenge (when he had a massive advantage over the over three people, but he still lost) or b) thrown his alliance with Denise overboard. I'm hoping they follow the Palau model, rather than the Phillipines one -- there'd be something hilarious about seeing ten people sitting on the sidelines of a 1 vs 1 vs 1 challenge.
Like I said -- there was a weird sexual undertone to the way he found the HII, so that wouldn't surprise me at all.
His idea of having everyone stay together wasn't totally idiotic. It's the Boston Rob in Redemption Island strategy of having such total control over your tribe that no one has any chance to strategize against you. The obvious problem for Garrett is that that strategy only works if you're Boston Rob in Redemption Island, and you have your whole tribe in complete and utter lockstep with everything you do. Otherwise you're being dictatorial, and that never works.
EDIT: for anyone wondering about the rice situation, here's what Probst has to say:
KuwabaraTheMan
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It was totally idiotic. Boston Rob's buddy system worked because it was being done post-merge and they had four or five people they were all going to target together (and because he had such a strong cult of personality around him, but even Boston Rob wouldn't have been able to pull that off at the beginning of the game).
Garret was telling his own supposed allies not to even talk with him. The only thing he had to do was to take J'Tia and Tasha aside and say 'we're still good, vote for Kass', and then he, Spencer and Kass vote out J'Tia. But his whole attempt to shut everything down made it extremely clear to Tasha what was going on, and instead lead to her wising up and bringing Kass over to her side.
No, she is.
http://www.anl.gov/articles/j-tia-taylor
Sounds like a pretty important role for a person that's as unstable as the materials she helps work with.
We are doomed. Chances of keeping her job after survivor?
UberTag
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Wow... just finished watching last night's premiere.
As down as I am about Amazing Race this season, I am on the complete opposite side of the fence for Survivor.
Casting did an amazing job this season. The Brains tribe is a real piece of work.
Can we revisit the idea that Matsing from Survivor Philippines is the worst tribe ever because I think the Luzon tribe is giving them a run.
As down as I am about Amazing Race this season, I am on the complete opposite side of the fence for Survivor.
Casting did an amazing job this season. The Brains tribe is a real piece of work.
Can we revisit the idea that Matsing from Survivor Philippines is the worst tribe ever because I think the Luzon tribe is giving them a run.
Shabadoo69
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The brains tribe is a bunch of idiots. How do you not vote out the person who dumps out all your rice. If someone wasted all my food they would be the first to go. Although I was glad Garrett got voted out with the idol. Why did he want to have an open forum to discuss who they were voting out? Thats survivor 101. Never ever do that. Thats when people get crazy and dump out all the rice. I hope all the brains go.
I just hope the hot big boob chicks stick around for a while.
I just hope the hot big boob chicks stick around for a while.
matthewwhatever
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Isn't Palau the worst tribe ever? I know I may have argued that Matsing may have been worse, but at least Denise and Malcolm still made the Final 4 (even if it was thanks to the producers showing pity). Palau just lost, and lost, and lost, until all of them were gone.
RE: Garrett and his HII...if he left it on the beach, presumably that means someone might go through his stuff and find it, right?
SlowRevolution
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ratings up from last February: http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/02/27/survivor-premiere-ratings-up-vs-idol/
The DVR thing is almost certainly a big part of it. They had been shooting themselves in the foot for years.
UberTag
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Dalton Ross recaps the premiere of Survivor: Cagayan...
I love his nickname for Morgan. 'Boobs McGee'.
Tim the Wiz
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Eh. I'm not surprised by any of the dysfunction on the Brains tribe; especially J'Tia, given my interaction with a number of engineering majors.
matthewwhatever
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But if he left it on the beach, doesn't that make it all fair game for everyone? In the past, any time people have left their possessions on the beach after being voted out, the remaining contestants have been allowed to take the possessions for themselves...I don't see why his stuff would be any different, since they wouldn't want to tip everyone else off that Garrett had found the HII.
Or am I misunderstanding what he said?
Yeah, it's on the beach. Maybe production hides the HII again?
Also, both the idols where found in small ponds far from the beach, and since there are clues inside the rewards, it looks like the same clues apply to all the idols so they must be at similar places.
yeah...
jstevenson
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I gotta say, they horrifically miscast the Brains group.
But god damn if that wasn't funny.
I understand why they took Garrett out after that tribal performance, but J'Tia is just as much of a loose cannon. Either of those two could completely sink that group post merge.
The brains seem insane, the brawn seems psychotic, and the beauty vindictive. I don't know how LIKABLE this cast is yet, but at least they are going to burn the island down on their way out it seems.
But god damn if that wasn't funny.
I understand why they took Garrett out after that tribal performance, but J'Tia is just as much of a loose cannon. Either of those two could completely sink that group post merge.
The brains seem insane, the brawn seems psychotic, and the beauty vindictive. I don't know how LIKABLE this cast is yet, but at least they are going to burn the island down on their way out it seems.
KuwabaraTheMan
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So they have no returning players for the first time in two years, and the ratings improve?
Has the message been received, CBS?
BvW2 w/ all newbies appears to be on deck for S29, via a casting tweet that went out (they're looking for a mom/daughter pair.)
It was the right move for Kass, given the dynamics at play. And that's all that mattered.
True, but it is still insanity that they thought it would be a good idea to have an open discussion.
RepairmanJack
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Didn't really like the premiere, don't like three tribes with it's predictable outcome and don't really have anyone I like yet besides maybe the kid from Brains.
God damn at Morgan and Alexis though...
God damn at Morgan and Alexis though...
Physical, yes, but all of those late moves showed how stupid he actually was. Spencer is the only intelligent person on that tribe, and I feel really bad for him right now.
Anyways, just got done watching the premier and wow, what a bunch of loonies. I know there have been tribes in the past that have gotten demolished, but this absolutely has to be the worst start for a tribe in the history of the show.
J'Tia should've been the first person voted out, and now that decision has come back full circle to bite them in the ass. How fucking crazy.
Hours Left
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At least we got LJ still, but yeah, Garrett was smokin'. Too bad he fizzled out so fast.
Jeremiah and Woo are pretty cute too.
SlowRevolution
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It gets overlooked all the time since there ended up being a swap, so they never got completely decimated like Ulong or Matsing, but Maraamu had a fucking awful start that I doubt they ever would've recovered from.
LightofRohan
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It all makes sense. The brains are known for what? Their brains. What is the first thing to change heavily in a survival situation? Your brain. They are accustom to luxury and not dealing with physical pressure, so when you have a powerful brain and the wires get screwy -- it causes crazy things to happen. And once you lose your brain and that is all you have, then you're screwed.
The beauties aren't accustomed to having to rely heavily on their mental game and prowess, they are accustom to reacting based on what makes them look good. They don't have much to lose in that department... and the brawn rely on instinct and physical stress, which lets them excel in this environment. It really isn't fair...
The beauties aren't accustomed to having to rely heavily on their mental game and prowess, they are accustom to reacting based on what makes them look good. They don't have much to lose in that department... and the brawn rely on instinct and physical stress, which lets them excel in this environment. It really isn't fair...
SecretMoblin
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It was a silly concept from the outset. The idea that any of these attributes are "essential elements of the game of Survivor" is hogwash. Did we ever get absolute confirmation that they split the tribes up this way only after the casting was done?
The division works for the show because the potential for irony makes a good talking point, but there's really not much more to it.
I kinda want to see what Aparri (brawn) would do at a tribal council...
The division works for the show because the potential for irony makes a good talking point, but there's really not much more to it.
I kinda want to see what Aparri (brawn) would do at a tribal council...
matthewwhatever
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Fight to the death, obviously.
You still have Brice, too, if sassy black guys are your thing.
You still have Brice, too, if sassy black guys are your thing.
Hey, I have a question.
What permits someone from taking the idol (when that person is still in the game) and using it as their own at TC. That is what I thought the girl was doing when she was saying "never leave a crazy person alone with your stuff" (but I guess she was going for the rice).
Also, is it just me, or is Garret's face messed up? Sure his body is hot but I can't have sexy time with a person who when I look at their face I want to laugh.
What permits someone from taking the idol (when that person is still in the game) and using it as their own at TC. That is what I thought the girl was doing when she was saying "never leave a crazy person alone with your stuff" (but I guess she was going for the rice).
Also, is it just me, or is Garret's face messed up? Sure his body is hot but I can't have sexy time with a person who when I look at their face I want to laugh.
RepairmanJack
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Pretty sure it's against the rules.
SecretMoblin
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It's explicitly part of the notorious "rulebook", the contract that contestants sign.
Hidden immunity idols are considered personal property and can't be stolen and used. You can, of course, rummage through someone's stuff and see if they have one, which has been a plot point in a number of seasons.
edit: here's the Reality Blurred leak of the contract from a few years ago
Hidden immunity idols are considered personal property and can't be stolen and used. You can, of course, rummage through someone's stuff and see if they have one, which has been a plot point in a number of seasons.
edit: here's the Reality Blurred leak of the contract from a few years ago
RepairmanJack
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But what happens when it's left at camp and the person leaves the game without it? Is it now up for grabs(if it's found, and it's not in his stuff) or do the producers take it with the rest of Garrett's stuff?
It's dead, production will remove it. Otherwise it'd mess with players' ability to flush one.
The funny thing about all this, is that Garrett had to be THAT bad to get booted over the woman that threw away all their food. The person that makes everyone miserable daily. The person that keeps screwing up in challenges. How do you get booted off over that person? That he was THAT bad, is incredible.
Honestly, the biggest mistake was him doing the open forum BS. I'm pretty sure Tasha would have actually flipped on J'Tia if only Garrett had talked to her on the side, and assured her that she has a spot over Kass. However, him shutting all that down, just made her realize that she had no room to play.
Honestly, the biggest mistake was him doing the open forum BS. I'm pretty sure Tasha would have actually flipped on J'Tia if only Garrett had talked to her on the side, and assured her that she has a spot over Kass. However, him shutting all that down, just made her realize that she had no room to play.
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