SolidSnakeUS
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And this game was somehow more expensive than Borderlands...
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Take-Two talks about the future of Battleborn
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ElBoxyBrown
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Everyone will buy Borderlands 3. It's not bombing.
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
Hahahahaha that's funny and I love borderlands it's my favorite series ever. To bad they had to make this and as their number one fan on borderlands I should be their target Audence but this game does not look appealing at allHmm, why does that seem so famil-
Oh, right.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Hmm, why does that seem so famil-
Oh, right.
I mean we can point to a million other characters that have the "rub dirt off your shoulder" taunt.
CommandThrower
Member
Make no mistake, Borderlands 3 will be big. People's hate for Gearbox won't make a Borderlands 3 sell bad. Battleborn and Aliens: Colonial Marines won't poison the Borderlands 3 well.
That said, if Battleborn had come out months after or months before Overwatch did, it probably wouldn't be quite so hated.
Frozenprince
Banned
Is it also weird to anybody else that they still charge money to buy the console version of Evolve?
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Neuromancer
Member
I see, thanks.
This begs the question, did this game fail because it was $60 or did it fail because it was fundamentally unappealing? I suppose we'll find out.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
Why does everyone think that Battleborn is bad for all the reasons Borderlands is bad yet they have no issue with Borderlands?
How can people say they hate a game for being a certain way, and then have no issue with the game that they say it's bad for being similar to?
GrantDaNasty
Member
I imagine getting a F2P game set up in a closed marketplace must be a lot more difficult than on PC at the moment.
Also, the F2P-shift came as a surprise to most people, so I imagine the PC is a good test-case scenario to see if F2P is even viable for these games to try and make sure the monetization and royalties set-up (for consoles) is worth the effort.
Finaika
Member
Frozenprince
Banned
Because one is a free roaming loot based shooter/RPG and the other is an arena shooter with MOBA elements.
Them playing the same is not a good thing.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Borderlands 3 will sell great.
I just wonder if it will sell great enough for Gearbox to be afforded the same leash they had to put out the high-profile bombs they did after Borderlands 2 again.
I just wonder if it will sell great enough for Gearbox to be afforded the same leash they had to put out the high-profile bombs they did after Borderlands 2 again.
Gunstarheroes
Member
This is one of my favorite channels on Youtube. Everytime one of his videos show up in a thread, i know its gonna be a good one. Todd Howard video is still the best.
She looks like a troll from Warcraft.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
You're being extremely disingenuous.
Nobody gave a shit about Battleborn at any point in time. Borderlands was a smash hit. People who buy 2-3 games a year know what Borderlands is and will be interested in buying it.
I dislike Borderlands but denying it is popular and will sell would be facetious.
I would put money down on Borderlands 3 being a pseudo-MMO ala Destiny or the Division because they are taking their sweet time with their biggest franchise, so BL3 might be able to hold up the company for a while.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
Nobody every complains about the genre of game.
They always complain about the writing, artstyle and fact that it's a Gearbox game.
Frozenprince
Banned
Because they are different games.
How is this a foreign concept to you? What works with one thing may not work if you extrapolate its elements while missing its soul.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
They hardly play the same to begin with.
IMO, the console MOBA audience.
I would say you are probably correct
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
People that have actually played the game.
I know people think they saw everything there is to see during Beta, but just toning down the particle effects and getting the Stats properly balanced for launch made a huge difference in the moment to moment gameplay.
I agree that playing the Beta gave you a taste of the game, but the retail release is a whole different game than Beta was.
Issues with marketing and art design aside, I fucking hated how long it took to unlock characters in this. I hate "competitive" focused games that lock you to gimped rosters for hours and hours of play. The game wasn't that deep, it should have just let me pick the role/character I wanted off the bat.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
He meant to say audiences love watching battleborn fail.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Two games can be similar and release in different contexts, too.
If Borderlands 2 came out today, it might not be all that well accepted.
If Borderlands 2 came out today, it might not be all that well accepted.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
Those elements are not extrapolated from borderlands because they're not in the game.
Battleborn is nothing like Borderlands as much as people want to simultaneously compare it and not compare it at the same time.
Honestly, ive seen people shit on it for being too much like Borderlands while hardcore Borderlands fans who should know that franchise better than anyone else, shit on it for being too different from Borderlands.
This....in a post destiny and overwatch world borderlands 3 has to change a lot...and be much better
Frozenprince
Banned
It just seems like you're salty a game you liked failed.
Games4Days00
Member
So many people shit on this game it's amazing. I have not played it so I can't say. I played the overwatch beta, it was good but I did not buy it. I would download this if it is F2P tho and give it a shot!
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
Thanks for having an actual discussion and not just giving up when you lose because I proved you wrong.
There's a bit of truth to this statement actually.
Battleborn over stylized characters make them look weird or unhuman like, so it's really hard to feel any kind of connection or empaty with them.
The rigging and animations are a bit stiff which it even increases the "weirdness" feeling.
Im sure it's a great game but the art direction really doesnt help to feel connected to the heroes (Which are a big part of the game appeal).
I really dont want to derail the thread but Overwatch rigging and animation is some of the best i've seen on games.
Movalpolos
Banned
Are you telling me the flash sale entirely dedicated to Battleborn wasn't a huge success?
Drillary Clinton
Banned
They should change this to Pay-to-play and by that I meant Pay the players to play this pile
Head.spawn
Junior Member
That's the funny thing about Battleborn; people like to compare it to Overwatch and in all honesty, the two games aren't alike at all. Battleborn is a fucking MOBA. Overwatch is an Arena shooter with a lot of similarities to Team Fortress. I think everyone would agree that Overwatch is similar to TF2.... but would you compare Battleborn to TF2? No. So why the hell would you compare Battleborn 1:1 with Overwatch?
In all honesty, the only problem with Battleborn is it's price... it should've been F2P from the start and it would've done much better. When I last played it, I was in a Smite-phase and it was a good alternative to that. The gameplay is decent, it's fun, characters are interesting etc etc.. No fucking way I was going to pay $60 for it at launch and even when the price dropped; I can play Smite for free and League of Legends for free... why not follow the model of similar games if you are going to make a similar game?
Someone correct me if im wrong, but isn't that gesture meant to be something like "im throwing shade at you" or some such?
Overwatch didn't invent it.
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
Hears how I see it. This game just looks unappealing. But if it goes free to play people will try it becuase why not it's free. Then if the people who play it right now and say it's good then it will get a lot more players. All try it at least hha
The Dutch Slayer
Member
only 50 mil?
When GearBox said they spend more on it then BL2 I thought it was way more then 50 mil.
Huge loss but not as much as I expected.
When GearBox said they spend more on it then BL2 I thought it was way more then 50 mil.
Huge loss but not as much as I expected.
Ah, the elder scrolls online approach.
Frozenprince
Banned
"Lol you lose get gud".
You don't want an actual discussion dude. You're not even trying to understand people you're just mad that they don't like Battleborn.
King Gilga
Member
Unless they completely did an art style overhaul I wouldn't bother even as f2p.
But you didn't prove him wrong, not in the least.
But you didn't prove him wrong, not in the least.
Drillary Clinton
Banned
I'd rather play just the ESO for the rest of my life than play this game for over a day
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
No, I explained how people use whatever justification they can to throw shade at the game which is apparent when people go and blame it for being too much like one game while other people blame it for being too little like that game.
Why do you personally hate the game?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It will do fine. It needs to be F2P.
Frozenprince
Banned
I don't hate the game.
I think it's a bad game.
You can not like something and not hate it. I'm not going to bother explaining why to you because you wouldn't care regardless.
No, you didn't, you didn't address the point of what I was saying, at all. You completely sidestepped it to continue making your non-extant point to nobody but yourself.
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
I must have missed you point because it's non-existent, if it's such a simple point then re-iterate it.
What are you trying to say then other than "This game sucks"?
Frozenprince
Banned
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