_Alkaline_
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Scrow said:
I never said it was the only path to happiness.
I just said that a non-gamer friend of mine is interested in buying the console because of the natural and simple nature of the control scheme.
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Talking to non-gamers about Wii - their reactions
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I never said it was the only path to happiness.
I just said that a non-gamer friend of mine is interested in buying the console because of the natural and simple nature of the control scheme.
Christopher
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ok I know this is a gaming centric board, but do people really talk to people like this outside of the forums? Kind of sad really...
let me "educate" you on Nintendo...oh please.
let me "educate" you on Nintendo...oh please.
Mr. TV Goggles
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DarienA said:
I love you guys.Y2Kevbug11 said:
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Nerds. And im not talking about your garden variety ones, but the ones who have 2 inch thick glasses, a bowl cut, buck teeth and wear suspenders.Christopher said:
Since this is anecdotal evidence day, I only know one person who is getting one, and that is the brother of a friend, so I don't know anyone directly who is even remotely (pardon the pun) interested in paying $250 to shake a controller with last generation graphics, and no high definition support. Especially at the risk of embarassment of being seen doing said shaking.
Christopher
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The Black Brad Pitt said:
oh god :lol
Giving a lecture about videogames to one of your non-gamer friends to this degree, yup.
_Alkaline_
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Scrow said:
Paganism eh?
Anyone else have any actual stories, rather than complaints about an event that actually took place that is apparently a sign to the almighty god of reggie that Nintendo will shoot omg missiles from roflcopters by selling 120 million wii systems meaning 360s are now useless and should not be chucked out?
travisbickle
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Mr. TV Goggles said:
I don't believe you...
Noone's used a Gamecube
_Alkaline_
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qcf x2 said:
Of yeah. Cause non-gamers only care about High Definition visuals and the best specs going around.
Oldschoolgamer
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Hyoushi said:
You just made my morning.:lol :lol
_Alkaline_
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The Black Brad Pitt said:
Holy crap! You mean I can't talk about any games of any kind outside of forums?
What have I done! Suicide am confirmed.
_Alkaline_
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DarienA said:
Non-gamers are waiting in line for the PS3?
_Alkaline_
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Jokeropia said:
Correct.
We were playing games at the time, and he claimed that he was finding the controls too confusing.
How is bringing up the Wiimote at that point of time extremely incredible stupednously ridiculously nerdy?
Jive Turkey
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Holy shit! :lolHyoushi said:
_Alkaline_
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DarienA said:Yeah a few had heard that it would be the cheapest Blu Ray player and figured it was a good way to pick up a BR player and get in to this videogaming thing.
..and just for the heck of it.. respost!
Amazing, I never would have though non-gamers would be willing to pay $600 and wait in line for a disk format, colour me surprised.
_Alkaline_
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Yoboman said:
I'm just surprised that's all.
:lol at the "LOL this is marketing!" Why would someone want to market on NeoGAF? There are no non-gamers at Neo-GAF!
But the OP is correct. There is interest of non-gamers I know to 'try it out'. But all the interest I see comes from my lapsed gamer friends (and where the lapsed gamers go, the non-gamers follow soon afterward).
Their eyes light up when I mention the Virtual Console. The idea of playing NES, SNES, N64 games gets their interest. And add in the PC-Engine and Megadrive, they are already ecstatic. Most of those gamers generally missed out on several of those consoles and would love to play them.
The backwards compatibility with the Gamecube also gets good reactions from them. They see the Wii as 'two consoles in one' since none of them bought a gamecube. Based on this, alone, they would eagerly get the Wii.
The Wii-mote interests them but, like us, they puzzle trying to imagine new games made with it. Those I know who had bought a DS, used to the touch screen, look forward to the 'new' type of games that will be made.
The price gets good feedback from them. Even the VC and controller prices (they shrug and say, "That's not bad"). The lack of HD is of no concern with them since none of them have HD TVs (nor plan to).
It is not always Gamer vs Non-gamer. There are many of us, like myself, who have been stuck in the middle as 'lapsed' gamers. We all think gaming went downhill with the 32/64 bit generation. Wikipedia calls us the 'old school' gamers. The DS interested me when I only owned the original 'brick' Gameboy. And the Wii interests us while we couldn't give a damn about any of the last generation consoles (or of the PS3 and Xbox 360 which is continuing that old archaic direction).
Controllers became retarded at the 32/64 bit generation. I took one look at the N64 controller and Dual Shock and said "**** that!" When controllers began to get handles, they began to become unweildly bloated pieces of plastic.
One other thing: most of these lapsed gamers wanted to play games with non-gamers. This included their girlfriends, their parents, wives, and so on. They told me their non-gaming spouses and family looked forward to playing the Wii whereas you could never get them to play Xbox 360 or Gamecube.
Whatever the Wii is, it is not scaring non-gamers like previous consoles do.
But the OP is correct. There is interest of non-gamers I know to 'try it out'. But all the interest I see comes from my lapsed gamer friends (and where the lapsed gamers go, the non-gamers follow soon afterward).
Their eyes light up when I mention the Virtual Console. The idea of playing NES, SNES, N64 games gets their interest. And add in the PC-Engine and Megadrive, they are already ecstatic. Most of those gamers generally missed out on several of those consoles and would love to play them.
The backwards compatibility with the Gamecube also gets good reactions from them. They see the Wii as 'two consoles in one' since none of them bought a gamecube. Based on this, alone, they would eagerly get the Wii.
The Wii-mote interests them but, like us, they puzzle trying to imagine new games made with it. Those I know who had bought a DS, used to the touch screen, look forward to the 'new' type of games that will be made.
The price gets good feedback from them. Even the VC and controller prices (they shrug and say, "That's not bad"). The lack of HD is of no concern with them since none of them have HD TVs (nor plan to).
It is not always Gamer vs Non-gamer. There are many of us, like myself, who have been stuck in the middle as 'lapsed' gamers. We all think gaming went downhill with the 32/64 bit generation. Wikipedia calls us the 'old school' gamers. The DS interested me when I only owned the original 'brick' Gameboy. And the Wii interests us while we couldn't give a damn about any of the last generation consoles (or of the PS3 and Xbox 360 which is continuing that old archaic direction).
Controllers became retarded at the 32/64 bit generation. I took one look at the N64 controller and Dual Shock and said "**** that!" When controllers began to get handles, they began to become unweildly bloated pieces of plastic.
One other thing: most of these lapsed gamers wanted to play games with non-gamers. This included their girlfriends, their parents, wives, and so on. They told me their non-gaming spouses and family looked forward to playing the Wii whereas you could never get them to play Xbox 360 or Gamecube.
Whatever the Wii is, it is not scaring non-gamers like previous consoles do.
_Alkaline_
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Lapsed said:
Quality post.
Did you know you can have games on control pads that only use some of the buttons, and not all of them?
Its a major innovation some companies introduced to simpler arcade games, intended solely not to confuse the mentally retarded. They conducted experiments on "gamers" and "non-gamers" and then seperated up the 2 camps further by pushing them into "standard attention span" and "attention span of a vomiting monkey on crack". They discovered that also, games come with manuals with annotations on to quickly explain all the controls in the game. This was the equivalent of discovering a new dimension, the dimension of knowledge! This revolutionised the world back in the day, but some people killed themselves out of insanity of not being able to understand why there were so many words on a page.
Its a major innovation some companies introduced to simpler arcade games, intended solely not to confuse the mentally retarded. They conducted experiments on "gamers" and "non-gamers" and then seperated up the 2 camps further by pushing them into "standard attention span" and "attention span of a vomiting monkey on crack". They discovered that also, games come with manuals with annotations on to quickly explain all the controls in the game. This was the equivalent of discovering a new dimension, the dimension of knowledge! This revolutionised the world back in the day, but some people killed themselves out of insanity of not being able to understand why there were so many words on a page.
_Alkaline_
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callous said:
I'm serious mate. Many non-gamers really are pathetic with current controllers. What seems simple to you, tends to not be simple at all to them.
Tim the Wiz
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Well, to be honest the only game I've ever got my non-gamer friends to play is Guitar Hero and because of that shared accessibility with the wiimote, I can see the plausibility of your story. Although I'd probably wait 'till I had the system myself to show them in person -- if the opportunity to do so ever occured.
PhoenixDark
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Alkaliine said:
I have a friend who lost both his hands in a tragic visit to the city zoo. He was always a "non-gamer", but without his hands he's even more of a "non-gamer" than most. He came over to my house a couple days ago, and we played Halo. Well, actually I played and he just told me where to go and when to shoot, but it felt like co-op. After a couple hours he seemed a little bored, and said "I wish I had my hands so I could play videogames..." I looked at him and said "well, what if you could control videogames with your arms?" He was confused, so I explained the Wii remote to him. I told him how he could control many of the games by duct taping the controller onto his arm and swinging it around.
After I showed him how Wii Tennis works (we visted the Nintendo Wii's official webpage, Wii.com), and within seconds he was happier than I had seen him. Thanks to Nintendo, everyone can play games.
D
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ugh, just ughKazenone said:
annoying, just annoying
nothing to say, just nothing to say
wow just wow
IF YOU MEAN JUST :lol JUST SAY :lol NO NEED TO REITERATE THAT YOU MEAN JUST THAT
_Alkaline_
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Yoboman said:
Oh don't worry, Ken told me.
_Alkaline_
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perplexcity said:
He's handless, not armless. But I too cannot tell if it's real or not, seems like a parody to me.
PjotrStroganov
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Shogmaster said:
Perfect first post/:lol
serious question though to the original poster with a major hard-on for all things wii:
what games were you playing, how did you approach introducing the person to playing the game, and did you tell him that all games were not completely identical to the one he was playing then, and perhaps did not need to look into a completely different control mechanism for an as of yet unreleased console?
what games were you playing, how did you approach introducing the person to playing the game, and did you tell him that all games were not completely identical to the one he was playing then, and perhaps did not need to look into a completely different control mechanism for an as of yet unreleased console?
Tim the Wiz
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PhoenixDark said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol
I certainly believe the original poster and, really, there's no reason NOT to believe him.
What he's saying is that the Wii is offering a simplified gaming experience for the masses. As someone who enjoys the more complex titles that are being released on other machines, however, do you really think that's a GOOD thing? Nintendo is attempting to take the market in a direction intended to appeal to those who do not enjoy gaming at this time. I don't fit that crowd and, therefore, believe that Nintendo Wii simply won't appeal to me. I could certainly have some fun with it, no doubt, and it will be great for hanging out with less gaming savy people who want to try something a bit different...but for actual sit down, serious gaming, the Wii clearly doesn't fit the bill.
What he's saying is that the Wii is offering a simplified gaming experience for the masses. As someone who enjoys the more complex titles that are being released on other machines, however, do you really think that's a GOOD thing? Nintendo is attempting to take the market in a direction intended to appeal to those who do not enjoy gaming at this time. I don't fit that crowd and, therefore, believe that Nintendo Wii simply won't appeal to me. I could certainly have some fun with it, no doubt, and it will be great for hanging out with less gaming savy people who want to try something a bit different...but for actual sit down, serious gaming, the Wii clearly doesn't fit the bill.
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