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Terrorist attack in India, 78 dead 200 wounded
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cartoon_soldier
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CHRP718 said:very true.
watching and reading about what happened in India is very sad
Its been happening since the 1980s.
This is the 10th major terrorist attack this year on cities outside Kashmir.
ScientificNinja
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OuterWorldVoice said:
Riiiight... and I suppose the Crusades were an afternoon picnic...
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Funky Papa
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Please. That's like saying that wars have no ideology behind them. The very fact that you tried to rationalizate the events right in this thread shows so much.Zapages said:
Right. I was reading the newspaper when I found this article about yesterday's attack of the Teutonic Knights on... oh, wait.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
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ScientificNinja said:
Cut em some slack, they where lookin for a cup, you know how hard it is to find a good cup!?
Xeke said:
Damn straight, they will fuck up your shitty wall.
Funky Papa said:
I think what he was trying to say is that whatever religion terrorists lay claim to is not anything a sane person would respect as a religion. You can take any religion and butcher it into your own bastardized intepretation but surely it's not that same religion then. It then becomes a set of beliefs that should not be treated like a religion.
My grandparents who emigrated from Constantinople would disagree with you guys downplaying the crusades.
Actually, for the most part the crusades aren't relevant in bashing the Christianity of today, they are relevant when Christians are smug about their faith being inherently just and Islam being inherently warlike and barbarous.
Also, Saladin was pretty cool.
Actually, for the most part the crusades aren't relevant in bashing the Christianity of today, they are relevant when Christians are smug about their faith being inherently just and Islam being inherently warlike and barbarous.
Also, Saladin was pretty cool.
WingM@n said:I hope these type of attacks don't set a new trend, but I'm afraid it will inspire a lot of terrorists.
Not to make fun of these horrible events, but I stumbled on this :
uh...are you sure you 'stumbled on' it...because it says that it's your review.
Edit: If you're going to fuck around on GAF at least don't get caught on the first reply :lol
^^^ The idiot now deleted it http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...pcsi=2111375479371691695,1&oi=md_reviews&sa=X
HurricaneJesus
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Edit: Deleted the offensive image, no need to post it 50 times.
Not only are you an idiot, but you are an idiot who felt the need to post in all caps. Fucking die.
Not only are you an idiot, but you are an idiot who felt the need to post in all caps. Fucking die.
DarkAngelYuna
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Wow, you're fucked up.WingM@n said:I hope these type of attacks don't set a new trend, but I'm afraid it will inspire a lot of terrorists.
Not to make fun of these horrible events, but I stumbled on this :
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WingM@n said:I hope these type of attacks don't set a new trend, but I'm afraid it will inspire a lot of terrorists.
Not to make fun of these horrible events, but I stumbled on this :
Not to make fun of you, but you also stumbled onto a banning
The Crusades are such a mixed bag for me. On one hand there were a lot of terrible atrocities carried out that I won't deny, but on the other hand it did thwart(or slow) the spread of Islam through Europe something which I'm deeply thankful for. I liken it to the US' theft of Indian land and it's expansion to the west coast. Terrible chain of events but had that not happened would the US have been able to make such an impact in WW2 and would I be speaking German or Japanese now? Of course, had Islam spread throughout Europe and lets say completely taken hold would we all be chilling right now under one religion sipping coffee? Oh the possibilities.Trurl said:
I find it amusing that Islam by most Christians is a more dangerous religion than Satanism. That IMO is saying something considering most Christians believe that a Satanist actually worships Satan and yet they'd still classify it as a lower threat than Islam.
But anyways, regarding the Crusades again, I don't think anybody is smug about Christianity being inherently just, infact I think most people here on this board are either Atheist or Agnostic and could really care less about which religion is better. It's just that one seems to be about 300 years behind the other and instead of making excuses for it and saying that it's some natural growing pain and we should all be understanding through this I think we should face it head on and tell them that they need to wake up and join the rest of the world.
Cold-Steel
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cartoon_soldier said:
Surprise, surprise.
...and why have we ignored this country for so long?
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Tim the Wiz
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Tathanen said:
True. Could have just been copy-pasting a picture he found on dregs of the internet. Still, posting it second-hand in itself deserves a ban regardless.
Jason's Ultimatum
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I'm really surprise that a group of terrorists wouldn't just walk down Time Square and blow themselves up. That would cause a HUGE dip in the stock market, because wasn't that what Bin Laden wanted? To destroy the U.S.'s economy?
I never said they were.Flagrant said:
I like history, I don't think there's a single event where you can say x was the only reason for y. Christianity was first(well not first but before Islam). It spread and took hold of most of the Middle East and Europe first and established itself as the dominant religion. So really, just for Jerusalem to fall into the hands of Islamic powers it was because the religion spread. If Islam was not spreading there'd be no need to take back the "Holy Land" now would there?
But the time period is fascinating, Islam for instance made it all the way up to Spain and did some amazing things. During the time of the Crusades Islam IMO was actually probably the better religion for the most part(I say for the most part because not everyone was practicing the same kind of Islam) that was much more open to art and science than Christianity(which was more unified in a sense than Islam was) at the time.
It's how Islam is now that I'm thankful for the Crusades and anything else that held it's spread back. If I had my own way we'd have no religions, maybe some local superstitions to spice up each region but nothing so defined as a religion.
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cartoon_soldier said:
Saudis again eh?
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Jason's Ultimatum said:
It wouldn't do much.
The 911 attacks were a total failure and it was much bigger than a suicide bombing. Yes, 3000 people died, but there are 300,000,000 Americans. Terrorists on that day lost because they really achieved nothing except killing random people. The world sympathized with America on that day. What gave terrorists a reason to call 911 a victory was the US' pointless response in Iraq and the quagmire it became. If the US had taken logical and productive actions, 9/11 would be remembered as a complete failure on the part of Al Qaeda.
How India will respond to this attack will be the same; either they will be productive and precise in their response, or they will do what the terrorists hope they will (random unproductive strikes that only embolden them).
Plus I think that the US is pretty safe actually when it comes to terrorism, it is nothing like India and Pakistan which are easily accessed by terrorists. In the US it's a bit more complicated.
mAcOdIn said:
That's incredibly ignorant thing to say. Revisionist history in the sense of re-imagining the world had the Crusades not happened and Islam spread to Europe from Spain would certainly create a world where Islam is not what it is today.
Also note that during the time of the crusades, the roles were absolutely reversed. Islamic civilization was incredibly advanced. Babylon was the centre of learning, philosophy and science and contemporaries of the time were puzzled by the horde of barbaric christian fundamentalist pouring out of the backwater that was Europe to reclaim the holyland and massacring Moslems as they went about retaking Jerusalem and establishing the crusader kingdoms.
Sound familiar?
Of course it's fucking ignorant, do you mean to tell me that there's one person on the face of the planet that could tell how an alternate reality would pan out?Deku said:
And did I not note that I thought that during the time that Islam was the better of the two?
There were many Islamic groups, who's to say that the Berber's image of Islam would not have become the dominant one? Or that moderate Islam would have been the main one and that it would have been extremists who settled the "New World." So of course my thankfulness is that the current history turned out the way it did because it is already known. Christianity "won" in a sense and has been rather tame for the past few hundred years while Islam has not.
Dude, enough with the Caliphate. You still haven't answered half of my questions about how these things are going to be accomplsihed. "arabs will just stop being racist", what? Secondly, the Kurdish-Turkish problems didn't start because the Caliphate was abolished it started because Ataturk was racist against them and wanted to assimilate them into Turkey, he would have done that whether the Caliphate was still around or not. Muslim terrorists are already a small minority and have shown already that they have no problems with killing other muslims. The rich leaders of the Middle East should be disposed of? Are you joking? They have far too much support within their own countries (they keep their people rich) and they have far too much support all over the world (western nations where they hold heavy investments, and terrorists that they bribe to keep off their backs). massive wars would have to be fought, which the rich arabs would probably win. The Sunni-Shia problems prevalent in Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc. have more to do with money and influence than anything else.Zapages said:
There is racism on both sides between Pakistan/India/ bangladesh and the Arab world, it's not going to heal by "example". You need to do more research on Islamic schisms, they are deeper than ever before and go farr beyond simple religious differences. Sunnis are battling Sunnis, Shia are battling Shia. And unless the Caliphate is some supreme dictator that rules with an iron fist and with a large army, he won't be successful. And then, what would make him different from the leaders now? What? Because he's Muslim and prevent the "moral decay" of the Muslim world?
And what did I say that was wrong? Muslim terrorists want the whole world to be Muslim, it's the truth. I mean, you keep bringing up the condition of Muslims in India, which I don't doubt, but that's not what these Muslims are fighting for. You can ask them and they will tell you that they are fighting for jihad and for the spread of Islam (true Islam or not), not for equal opportunity at employment.
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How accurate is this?
http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/comp/cw11sunnishiitesplit.htm
So how do the Sunnis know if Allah orders it, it makes it good? Does the Quran say this? If Sunnis say Allah created all of their acts, then would that mean killing innocent people was an act of Allah?
Also, if Shiites believe that Allah doesn't command the bad things, then how do they justify the killing of innocents? Wouldn't that go against their beliefs?
How accurate is this?
http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/comp/cw11sunnishiitesplit.htm
So how do the Sunnis know if Allah orders it, it makes it good? Does the Quran say this? If Sunnis say Allah created all of their acts, then would that mean killing innocent people was an act of Allah?
Also, if Shiites believe that Allah doesn't command the bad things, then how do they justify the killing of innocents? Wouldn't that go against their beliefs?
domokunrox
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This is very terrible.
Anyone know what gun laws are like there in India? Do people usually carry firearms around? Or do people commonly conceal them? I'm curious.
Anyone know what gun laws are like there in India? Do people usually carry firearms around? Or do people commonly conceal them? I'm curious.
artredis1980
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Looks like the Terrorists are Bangladeshi's
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks.responsibility/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks.responsibility/index.html
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