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[Dever]

Yeah, his book interests are definitely not in line with nazism. Seems like a fucked up individual with conservative tendencies, but not a neonazi.

I'm surprised we don't know his motivation yet. To me he seems like a guy who wouldn't do something like this without leaving behind a fucking manifesto.

 

[vordhosbn]

Flashback is much like 4chan in the way of "anything goes" (almost). It's very loosely moderated, which means that there are tons of trolls running around. So take that stuff with a grain of salt.

I'll bet money advocating genocide against Swedes wouldn't "go".

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Seriously?

stealth edit:

It's an image worth more than a thousand words, believe it or not, with the rhetoric I've come across in the past year in some discussions about people's views of brown/asian/muslims in Europe. Today, I came across another calling for the deportation of all Muslims across Europe after this attack. Above, you see another member coming across those calling for their deaths. Whilst these extreme attitudes are not common, the alienation and demonisation of this certain group within our population certainly is in various forms.

So seeing that young man show, what would naturally be nothing worth noting, compassion to a 'native' made me very happy. Next time I won't need to write 4000 words to try and articulate a pixel of what that image conveys; I'll just link it.

Do you any proof that he's Muslim or a first generation (or even second) immigrant or are you just pulling things out of the ether?

 

[Gregorn]

He posted an 8 minute song on Facebook and then 6 minutes later posted a 10 minute song.

That account is so fake.

 

[Forsete]

He was a colossal douche all around.

But a douche that got things done.

 

[magichans]

This is his Twitter account
https://twitter.com/#!/andersbbreivik





he wrote one thing

That was only a few days before this happened, too...

 

[Ledsen]

Ofcourse not. But that's the type of content I'd expect from Stormfront not a national forum. Depressing.

Since Flashback is a huge forum with an "anything goes" policy, it tends to draw tons of criminals, nazis and racists. That's why I don't frequent it.

 

[Kerub]

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article231455.ece

Looks like has history. Dynamite and Police uniforms in 2001

Nazis tend to go hand in hand with weapons and violence.

http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/05/07/nyheter/innenriks/nynazisme/16429787/

Here is an old article about russian nazis threatening to murder norwegian antifascists. Not that it ever got noticed though.

The quote in the title, through google translate

"Their brains are going to be on the tarmac in Oslo"

 

[zon]

This isn't about the tragedy in Oslo, but sort of related.

Even my own mother started talking about how horrible it was that "they" had dragged their shit with them to our countries when I told my parents about the attack. Essentially how bad it was that we let muslims come and live here. Fuck, this is one of the few times I've wanted to slap my own mom. She grew up on a farm in the middle of buttfuck nowhere and has never had any real experience with immigrants, but that's not a fucking excuse for this bullshit. :/

 

[astroturfing]

I'm surprised we don't know his motivation yet. To me he seems like a guy who wouldn't do something like this without leaving behind a fucking manifesto.

yeah.. hmm. maybe he wasn't an extreme right winger or neonazi. i am getting confused.

 

[RustyNails]

Theres not enough fucking rolls eyes on the internet for this.

edit: My original quote for your fool self

Your 30 years of experience is worth less than poop when you can't predict shit.

 

[Marsipolami]

He posted an 8 minute song on Facebook and then 6 minutes later posted a 10 minute song.

That account is so fake.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

It seems like he set up his entire profile on the same day so we would see what we're seeing. It's very creepy.

 

[rooflapimp]

I'll bet money advocating genocide against Swedes wouldn't "go".

On Flashback? Have you read anything there before?

 

[Kosmo]

This isn't about the tragedy in Oslo, but sort of related.

Even my own mother started talking about how horrible it was that "they" had dragged their shit with them to our countries when I told my parents about the attack. Essentially how bad it was that we let muslims come and live here. Fuck, this is one of the few times I've wanted to slap my own mom. She grew up on a farm in the middle of buttfuck nowhere and has never had any real experience with immigrants, but that's not a fucking excuse for this bullshit. :/

Multiculturalism has failed, deal with it.

 

[Eric_S]

Ofcourse not. But that's the type of content I'd expect from Stormfront not a national forum. Depressing.

National forum? It's not upheld by the state. The prevalence of racist tools has got a lot to do with Flashbacks moderation policy (or rather, a lack of it ... FREEDOMS!!, y'know). It's allso got a rather large amount of subforums, said mouthbreathers aren't really noticable in the hunting section for example.

 

[Rapstah]

yeah.. hmm. maybe he wasn't an extreme right winger or neonazi. i am getting confused.

He's showing us his own selected view of his life through that FB account. I wouldn't canonise it in the slightest.

 

[speedpop]

This isn't about the tragedy in Oslo, but sort of related.

Even my own mother started talking about how horrible it was that "they" had dragged their shit with them to our countries when I told my parents about the attack. Essentially how bad it was that we let muslims come and live here. Fuck, this is one of the few times I've wanted to slap my own mom. She grew up on a farm in the middle of buttfuck nowhere and has never had any real experience with immigrants, but that's not a fucking excuse for this bullshit. :/

The ridiculously biased media and outspoken bigoted peers can be very toxic to individuals.

 

[water_wendi]

Your 30 years of experience is worth less than poop when you can't predict shit.

i even said in my post that i wasnt saying that it was an Islamic terror attack. i was pointing out that bombings like this are indicative of Islamic terror attacks and speculation that it could be isnt some crazy leap in logic. How many Islamic terror bombings have there been since the 80s? 100? 200? So please, stfu.

 

[zon]

Ofcourse not. But that's the type of content I'd expect from Stormfront not a national forum. Depressing.

As others have said, it's the Swedish 4chan. It attracts all the wrong sort of people.

 

[Jeels]

Colored dude helping non-colored dudette. Oh, how beautiful.

No this is not possible. MULTICULTURALISM IS SUPPOSED TO FAIL.

 

[Sebastard]

Im at his facebook. I think it is very odd that he created his fb the 17 of july this year, he has no friends, and his wall is only updated with trance songs. He must have been deep in the planning 7 days ago, so what was his plan with making his facebook? Maybe he wanted to be shown?

 

[Tempy]

I'm confused now. Earlier in the thread it was said the perp is called Tommy Tangen and apparently has the same name as someone who got arrested for illegal weapons 10 years earlier. This Tommy Tangen apparently has ties to neo-nazi groups.

But now it seems the real perp is someone else, but I don't know where people read that this person has neo-nazi ties.

 

[Proxy]

At the risk of a big thread derail, I shall mention briefly that Churchill was known to have pretty xenophobic views, particularly towards Arabs.

Well it would certainly be a contradiction in his philosophy if he is indeed a neo-Nazi. Why would a neo-Nazi look up to a man who played a key role in the destruction of Nazi Germany? At any rate, I just thought it was unusual.

 

[Funky Papa]

No this is not possible. MULTICULTURALISM IS SUPPOSED TO FAIL.

Colour does not equal culture.

And this thread is already turning into shit.

 

[dschalter]

Your 30 years of experience is worth less than poop when you can't predict shit.

rustynails: comes into thread, immediately posts link to outdated and already known to be false info.

spends rest of thread talking about how bad other posters are.

 

[RustyNails]

i even said in my post that i wasnt saying that it was an Islamic terror attack. i was pointing out that bombings like this are indicative of Islamic terror attacks and speculation that it could be isnt some crazy leap in logic. How many Islamic terror bombings have there been since the 80s? 100? 200? So please, stfu.

Noted. Hopefully you will keep your 30 years of experience to yourself next time something goes boom?

rustynails: comes into thread, immediately posts link to outdated and already known to be false info.

spends rest of thread talking about how bad other posters are.

?

 

[Forsete]

VG now posted his picture.
Says "He called himself a nationalist"

 

[SmokyDave]

Look at that, Europe. Look at that

Statistically dangerous game you're clumsily playing.

Also, are you assuming that man is a muslim just because of the colour of his skin or is there a link?

Any more news on the shooter? Any motive?

 

[Gregorn]

Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

It seems like he set up his entire profile on the same day so we would see what we're seeing. It's very creepy.

No, I was just pointing out that it's probably fake/set up. Sorry if you had already come to that conclusion in this thread, there's too much to read to catch up.

 

[Kerub]

Multiculturalism has failed, deal with it.

Me and most of my friends are ethnically Swedish and we rarely run into trouble in our multicultural neighborhood.

I'm pretty sure that most of the problems that follow are due to class issues. We had the same problems before the "mass immigration" (like people like to call it), but the "problems" were called Lars and Kristian instead of Muhammed or Ahmed.

 

[Jeels]

i even said in my post that i wasnt saying that it was an Islamic terror attack. i was pointing out that bombings like this are indicative of Islamic terror attacks and speculation that it could be isnt some crazy leap in logic. How many Islamic terror bombings have there been since the 80s? 100? 200? So please, stfu.

The point being made here is the inherent bias when it comes to Muslims. This isn't even being called a terror attack anymore by all outlets because it was done by a white man. (See: Tuscon Arizona Shooting).

 

[water_wendi]

Noted. Hopefully you will keep your 30 years of experience to yourself next time something goes boom?

Anytime something fits a pattern i will not fault anyone for thinking that event fits the pattern.

 

[Forever]

Noted. Hopefully you will keep your 30 years of experience to yourself next time something goes boom?

Why should he? There's nothing wrong with speculating it was Al-Qaeda or Neo-Nazis or Gaddafi or any other group, or that the motivation might have been political or religious or simply psychopathic.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Rumor is that this guy was killed by him

Famous from Norwegian x-factor

He's Somali..

Do you any proof that he's Muslim or a first generation (or even second) immigrant or are you just pulling things out of the ether?

The distinction between generations (which is valid) is rarely acknowledged in these type of discussions in my experience, hence my reaction. That type of detail and thought is absent.

 

[Aouri]

http://www.vg.no/ are stationed near the explosion.

 

[Forsete]

Any more news on the shooter? Any motive?

IIRC last news on was that he didnt want to talk about his motives. He was answering other questions though.

 

[Tim the Wiz]

Multiculturalism has failed, deal with it.

Kosmo
Factually Challenged

 

[Rapstah]

No, I was just pointing out that it's probably fake/set up. Sorry if you had already come to that conclusion in this thread, there's too much to read to catch up.

Pretty hard to fake an account six days before the deed. It's fake real, the real guy set it up, but obviously to show what he wants to.

 

[Dever]

VG now posted his picture.
Says "He called himself a nationalist"

Some epic crow eating for nationalists who were getting their pitchforks ready.

 

[Jeels]

Anytime something fits a pattern i will not fault anyone for thinking that event fits the pattern.

This reminds me of the "black people commit the most crimes" thread.

Me and most of my friends are ethnically Swedish and we rarely run into trouble in our multicultural neighborhood.

I'm pretty sure that most of the problems that follow are due to class issues. We had the same problems before the "mass immigration" (like people like to call it), but the "problems" were called Lars and Kristian instead of Muhammed or Ahmed.

This is such a good post. Thank you.

 

[SmokyDave]

IIRC last news on was that he didnt want to talk about his motives. He was answering other questions though.

That's strange, you'd expect him to want the world to know why he did this. Why not just kill yourself otherwise?

Fuck knows, I've spent too long trying to understand nutters today.

Kosmo
Factually Challenged

Now tag quote Angela Merkel, David Cameron & The Dutch Government. They've all said the same thing.

 

[water_wendi]

The point being made here is the inherent bias when it comes to Muslims. This isn't even being called a terror attack anymore by all outlets because it was done by a white man. (See: Tuscon Arizona Shooting).

And if a bomb goes off in Belfast i have an inherit bias to speculate that it is the IRA and i wouldnt fault anyone that did. There was a reason why people were saying "Please dont be Muslim" because the event fits the Islamic terror MO (bombings without prior calls to police, simultaneous attacks, etC).

 

[Ledsen]

Someone posted this on Flashback:

If you take the title's of the songs he posted on his Facebook and put them in order from oldest to newest, you get this:



Fireworks Out of the sky Let it all out. Faithless insomnia After all.

Big sky Sound of goodbye. Ere the world crumbles, Ere the world crumbles. Nighttime journey through the eiglophian hills, Memories of cimmeria.

Ere the world crumbles, Faithless insomnia Fireworks.

Hold on to me.

Holding on to nothing. Freefalling.

 

[Sebastard]

Why would he post links of trance songs in his wall if he doesnt have friends? He even comments on some of them. Is it possible he knew people would flood his facebook and he really wanted people to listen to his music?

 

[Forsete]

Some epic crow eating for nationalists who were getting their pitchforks ready.

Statistically speaking they weren't wrong in readying their pitchforks though.

We had the same problems before the "mass immigration" (like people like to call it), but the "problems" were called Lars and Kristian instead of Muhammed or Ahmed.

Umm. No, not on this scale.
Most of it is due to failed politics though.

 

[speedpop]

Im at his facebook. I think it is very odd that he created his fb the 17 of july this year, he has no friends, and his wall is only updated with trance songs. He must have been deep in the planning 7 days ago, so what was his plan with making his facebook? Maybe he wanted to be shown?

Terrorist acts are done for publicity as well as the individual's/group's purpose. Opening a facebook account allows feedback to be poured in and to see the immediate and long-term reactions.

 

[theignoramus]

i know what the lead story on the next episode of richard gizbert's "the listening post" is gunna be about now...

 

[Tim the Wiz]

Now tag quote Angela Merkel, David Cameron & The Dutch Government. They've all said the same thing.

I would if I could. Multiculturalism itself hasn't failed, but the implementation of it in certain parts of Europe has.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Anytime something fits a pattern i will not fault anyone for thinking that event fits the pattern.

If they have any power or influence you should because they should know better. Humans like to see patterns so much that they see them everywhere and anyone who can't compensate for that has bad judgement.

 

[Sealda]

The guy seems to be a complete nutjob.

This is all of what he have written on the internet under his identify fjordman

http://chromatism.net/fjordman/fjordmanfiles.htm

Also, he seems to held a high rank in the freemasons.