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Texas will require aborted fetuses to be cremated or buried
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Darryl M R
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I saw this posted on Twitter and hoped it was fake news being shared.
Just wow.
Just wow.
Skellig Gra
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I wonder where they stand on using it on a church altar as part of a propaganda video
Don't give them any ideas!
At least Republicans care about all life by pushing women to possibly abort their own children in secret at home, risking the health of the mother, too.
The hypocrisy is insane. "Life begins a conception, but if they're aborted it's not like they were birthed and died anyways."
What is even the point.
Fetuses will become dependent on government handouts if they get social security.
Why would Republicans want to give anyone more benefits? Those fetuses have bootstraps, don't they?
Audioboxer
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I know there will be many great people in Texas, heck I think GAFs owner (EviLore) is from there, but it can be understandable when Americans sometimes joke about wanting to "abort Texas".
The issue here is a "requirement". Appalling decision. It should lie solely with how the woman wants to respond to the situation. Not have the state intervene and force a decision.
The issue here is a "requirement". Appalling decision. It should lie solely with how the woman wants to respond to the situation. Not have the state intervene and force a decision.
ClosingADoor
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Sure, hit people with more costs to push them into your desired direction assholes. As if abortion is such an easy choice people just do all the time.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Don't like this that they make it a requirement.
Does the new law entail that women have to pay for those burial fees or is it waived and assumed by the state?
Does the new law entail that women have to pay for those burial fees or is it waived and assumed by the state?
Im curious about this too, but I assume that it will target the mothers and family. Because if we can't make it illegal, let's make it as difficult as possible!!!!!!
Arrogant Bastard
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This is just going to get added onto the procedure and it will be served by some contractor. Next up they are going to require you to hold an actual ceremony, small government indeed.
Please don't give my state government any ideas.
Vicetrailia
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Wow, how evil. What a cruel and unusual punishment.
Arrogant Bastard
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It is stupid because it isn't going to change anything, they will be 'buried' by a contractor. It isn't like there is going to be a ceremony at a cemetery or something.
The most annoying thing about the joke is that we're not even the most conservative state in the Union. There are way worse states to live in.
Edit: also I think some people are serious because they don't realize how many Democrats live here. It's not like we're 90% Republican or anything.
Beer Monkey
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A law that literally does not apply to men at all.
theignoramus
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Discourage women from abortions by raising the costs, then demonise them as a burden on taxpayers when they need public assistance to raise their kids.
George Carlin was so right about these psychos. They will do anything for a foetus but once you pop out of the womb you become a worthless piece of shit.
If you really want to have a funeral for an aborted fetus then feel free, but you shouldn't be required to do so. They should be disposed of like any other medical waste unless the mother desires otherwise.
If you really want to have a funeral for an aborted fetus then feel free, but you shouldn't be required to do so. They should be disposed of like any other medical waste unless the mother desires otherwise.
Bootiestraps*
VendettaRed07
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Republicans have all three branches and many many states with republican control are going to try stuff like this just to see if anyone will stop them
But what we need is to stay active, be loud and pressure artists, activists musicians, even sports leagues or what ever to withdraw either their investments, involvements and whatever plans they have in the state in the near future. People ultimately care about their wallets above all else and if people start to see their state losing out because of backwards ridiculous measures it can be fought. This happened in Indiana and North Carolina over similar measures and it's something we are going to need to do a lot of over the next few years or so.
But what we need is to stay active, be loud and pressure artists, activists musicians, even sports leagues or what ever to withdraw either their investments, involvements and whatever plans they have in the state in the near future. People ultimately care about their wallets above all else and if people start to see their state losing out because of backwards ridiculous measures it can be fought. This happened in Indiana and North Carolina over similar measures and it's something we are going to need to do a lot of over the next few years or so.
Darryl M R
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PsychoSoldier
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To say nothing of railing against sex education and free condoms, both of which help prevent unwanted pregnancies and do more to reduce abortion than making it essentially illegal.
HazySaiyan
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What on earth is wrong with these people? It's just pure fucking evil at this point.
umop_3pisdn
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Let's also make women have to bury their menses.
Goro Majima
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To make it worse on an emotional level, all burial records in regulated for-profit perpetual care cemeteries in Texas require a first and last name of the deceased. Meaning that the mother will have to name the unwanted fetus.
I think cremation will have similar issues since there's paperwork other than the death certificate required that will have to be filled out.
Also even a direct cremation will cost about $500 in Texas assuming that cremations are sold at a cheaper rate for infants. I usually saw prices between $700-1000 across the state for adults. Burials are even more expensive due to the casket and opening and closing of the grave (although some mom and pop cemeteries give out free "baby garden" spaces...but that's the cheapest aspect).
I think cremation will have similar issues since there's paperwork other than the death certificate required that will have to be filled out.
Also even a direct cremation will cost about $500 in Texas assuming that cremations are sold at a cheaper rate for infants. I usually saw prices between $700-1000 across the state for adults. Burials are even more expensive due to the casket and opening and closing of the grave (although some mom and pop cemeteries give out free "baby garden" spaces...but that's the cheapest aspect).
The department appears to be claiming that the overall costs shouldn't change, and that the burial/cremation costs should be equivalent to what is currently paid to contractors to handle disposal. I have no idea how the numbers are in reality, but that's the claim.
This leads into a million disgusting things aside from the cost issue, anyway. I assume part and parcel of this will be requiring women to specify exactly how they want everything handled, and they're now being required to treat it like a death instead of a medical procedure. I am incredibly nervous about how this will work its way through the court system.
It'a even worse when your realize it keeps the impoverished in poverty.
Teriyaki Blues
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Texas sure likes indirectly killing women, doesn't it?
Because that's what defunding women's health clinics and making abortion defacto illegal/impossible does. It kills women. At a rate that is unprecedented in the absence of war, natural disaster, or severe economic upheaval.
Because that's what defunding women's health clinics and making abortion defacto illegal/impossible does. It kills women. At a rate that is unprecedented in the absence of war, natural disaster, or severe economic upheaval.
Randolph Freelander
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Worth noting from the article is a reminder that Mike Pence tried this same thing in Indiana and was blocked by the courts.
WaPo said:
I had thought I read that the costs were required to be paid by the provider (the clinic), which is even more insidious. It leaves the clinic either to recoup the cost from the woman, which drives away abortion requests, or pay the costs themselves, which hurts the clinic financially if they continue to offer it as a service.
The woman will have to pay for it, of course. They mean for the law to be punitive, as a way to supposedly discourage a woman from exercising her right to choose. In reality, it's never about the fetus to Republicans, it's about slut shaming and control.
I couldn't figure out in the article (maybe missed it) who is supposed to pay for the cremation or burial. The article mentions the cost of the cremation/burial would be about the same as having the fetuses transferred to the place they are dumped in. So if the state feels like doing it themselves then fine. It's an issue if it falls into the hands of the person who aborted the fetus. Just like the last quote in OP's cut out. The reason behind the abortion could be for any reason and the idea of forcing the person to personally take care of the burial could be traumatic.
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