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[Hop]

good job, you just described every single multiplayer fps ever made

Other than TF2. Play on any decent server and everyone's objective-focused.

 

[thetrin]

Those are just what you have to destroy. In a lot of maps you're either taking over or blowing up rockets and satellite dishes.

And bah at more payload related maps.

Oh, gotcha. Whenever I play payload, I'm not sure I even know what I'm trying to destroy. :lol

 

[Blizzard]

Other than TF2. Play on any decent server and everyone's objective-focused.

Well, and Enemy Territory: Return to Castle Wolfenstein, which was my favorite class-based objective FPS game before TF2.

And Boonoo just reminded me -- we should all be grateful that the new maps aren't 5-point capture maps. We don't need more badlands, well, and granary, for sure!

 

[thetrin]

Other than TF2. Play on any decent server and everyone's objective-focused.

Exactly. To be honest, console FPS players would be astonished if they picked up TF2 for the first time on PC/Mac and starting playing it.

 

["God's Beard!"]

good job, you just described every single multiplayer fps ever made

Garry's Mod?

 

[Twig]

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/

 

[Boonoo]

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/

movable sentries!

 

[pilonv1]

Has this been posted?

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/

edit: beaten.

 

[Won]

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/

Cactus!

 

[thetrin]

Maybe the wrench allows you to dismantle without destroying? That would be...overpowered.

 

[Boonoo]

 

[HTuran]

Maybe the wrench allows you to dismantle without destroying? That would be...overpowered.

He's not using the wrench.

 

[pilonv1]

Maybe the wrench allows you to dismantle without destroying? That would be...overpowered.

Probably gives less powerful buildings, maybe only level 2? Or lower firing rates/no missiles

 

[thetrin]

He's not using the wrench.

I wasn't going by the photos. I was just postulating in a vacuum.

Probably gives less powerful buildings, maybe only level 2? Or lower firing rates/no missiles

But you could just bypass that by using the Wrangler.

Oh. OOOOOOOOH.

 

[D4Danger]

does this mean we can move sentries?

that would be amazing!

 

[sneakypete]

http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/engineer_photos/

Spoiler

plz be movable sentries

 

[benjipwns]

From the blog:

Quick: Name someone whose body of work is a testament to the indomitability of the human spirit; whose strength and moral guidance informs your every decision; and who starred in one of the Police Academy movies.

Okay, and who isn't Steve Gutenberg.

Or the guy who fooled crooks into thinking he was a police car by making police car noises. Okay, now go!

Did you guess Hightower? Oh thank God, because that's what we called our new Payload map, and it is way too late to change it to Sweetchuck. Even though, now that we think about it, that's a much better name that you should seriously consider just calling it anyhow. Way to name maps, Brandon.

Also: wrenches! Hey, everybody remember those? Because Day Three of the Engineer Update has a whole new batch of them—plus a community-made surprise*.

*This isn't the only melee slot item the Engineer's getting...just a bonus!

 

[sneakypete]

Maybe the wrench allows you to dismantle without destroying? That would be...overpowered.

Unless there was a period of inactivity before it was able to shoot again..

I don't understand the overpowered talk when we haven't seen anything in game yet. Seems silly to label unknowns.

 

[pilonv1]

But you could just bypass that by using the Wrangler.

Oh. OOOOOOOOH.

I think we have a winner here

 

[Javaman]

From the blog:

several wrenches? Nifty.

 

[sneakypete]

several wrenches? Nifty.

Could be a reference to the 25 golden wrenches left, but who knows?

 

[Milabrega]

Battle Engineer looking better and better.

 

[unifin]

Notably, Gutenberg was the first person in Europe to introduce MOVEABLE type, as I recall.

 

[Twig]

Could be a reference to the 25 golden wrenches left, but who knows?

It is.






My theory: movable level 2 items of every type in the big box, meant to be used in conjunction with the guitar, which obviously can't upgrade or repair (or CAN it?!). And the new shotty would work well with that setup.

Yes, I realize it's pretty ridiculous to have auto-level-2 of all items from the big box. I don't actually believe it to be true. But I would like it to be true! Hurray more offensive/mobile engy!

 

[roMonster]

I hope they introduce a new wrench where it is such an upgrade from the regular there really isn't a reason not to use it (kinda like the soldier's equalizer)

That would take a lot of the sting out of not getting a gold wrench.

 

[pilonv1]

Yes, I realize it's pretty ridiculous to have auto-level-2 of all items from the big box. I don't actually believe it to be true. But I would like it to be true! Hurray more offensive/mobile engy!

What if they took longer to build? Auto level 2 with 1.5/2x the build time? Most engies will need a buddy now to protect them while they build. Hooray for encouraging more teamwork.

 

[Twig]

What if they took longer to build? Auto level 2 with 1.5/2x the build time? Most engies will need a buddy now to protect them while they build. Hooray for encouraging more teamwork.

Yes, it could certainly be done. I just don't... know if it would.

Like I said, though, I would love it! Personally, I would never play vanilla-style engy ever again. x:

 

[pilonv1]

Vanilla engie would still be better for defense, as you'd get the level 3 buildings and Wrangler. But it certainly gives the class more options.

 

[Spire]

Why are people so convinced that the guitar is a weapon and not just a new taunt? Given how few guitar achievements there are, it looks like it's just the taunt for the Wrangler or something.

 

[ArjanN]

I don't like the idea of exclusive items. At least make it so that when you kill someone with it you also get one. That way everyone will get it eventually.

 

[arstal]

If I got a golden wrench, I'd try to sell my account on Ebay- I'd probably make $100 or so off some sucker. Probably more then that- people are real compulsive.

 

[speculawyer]

And Boonoo just reminded me -- we should all be grateful that the new maps aren't 5-point capture maps. We don't need more badlands, well, and granary, for sure!

We need more like Steel.

 

[Metalic Sand]

If I got a golden wrench, I'd try to sell my account on Ebay- I'd probably make $100 or so.

Only have TF2 on your steam? Doesnt seem possible.....

 

[Spire]

Who dares badmouth Badlands?

 

[arstal]

Only have TF2 on your steam? Doesnt seem possible.....

Pretty much. I hate Steam.

 

[Javaman]

Who dares badmouth Badlands?

There's a reason it isn't called Goodlands.

 

[Twig]

Why are people so convinced that the guitar is a weapon and not just a new taunt? Given how few guitar achievements there are, it looks like it's just the taunt for the Wrangler or something.

Because guitars are awesome damnit.

Also: buff banner.

Also also: why are you so convinced it's not?

Also also also: why are you being such a downer? NOBODY LIKES YOU, DEBBIE. GET OUT.

 

[Metalic Sand]

Pretty much. I hate Steam.

Mind blown.

 

[Blizzard]

If I got a golden wrench, I'd try to sell my account on Ebay- I'd probably make $100 or so off some sucker. Probably more then that- people are real compulsive.

Just be aware that the Steam legal agreement explicitly forbids that, so you'd (they'd, after it sells) best not get caught. *edit* And I may have given you a new reason to hate Steam!

We need more like Steel.

Thanks for reminding me. Two-way attack defend = bad, one-way = good! Having steel be compact as opposed to cashworks being reaaaaaally long is also nice.

 

[Twig]

Mind blown.

He's one of those people (Joseph Merrick being the big one) who thinks Steam is the end of the world.

 

[Chris R]

Pretty much. I hate Steam.

Biggest shock in this thread so far. I didn't know there were people out there who still hated steam :lol

 

[Spire]

Because guitars are awesome damnit.

Also: buff banner.

Also also: why are you so convinced it's not?

Also also also: why are you being such a downer? NOBODY LIKES YOU, DEBBIE. GET OUT.

I'm not convinced it's not, it's just people are acting like it's gospel now and I was just wondering if some new info leaked that I didn't know about.

 

[Spire]

Biggest shock in this thread so far. I didn't know there were people out there who still hated steam :lol

arstal thinks Steam is evil and part of Valve's plan to take over the world and make every human on Earth Gabe Newell's personal sex puppet.

 

[arstal]

arstal thinks Steam is evil and part of Valve's plan to take over the world and make every human on Earth Gabe Newell's personal sex puppet.

Nah, that's Joseph Merrick.

I just believe it's an inferior service to Gamersgate and Impulse, and don't like the DRM on single-player games.

It's tolerable for cheap games, but I won't pay over $10 for anything with Steamworks DRM, and I'll pay more for games without that DRM.

Edit: people like Steel and Cashworks? I never liked either of those maps.

 

[Twig]

I'm not convinced it's not, it's just people are acting like it's gospel now and I was just wondering if some new info leaked that I didn't know about.

Nope, just the usual update wacky antics.

 

[pilonv1]

We need more like Steel.

I agree, Steel is my favourite map by far.

 

[perryfarrell]

Steel is good.

But it's no Badwater Basin. I love trying to defend or attack the roof, or being an attack engie and building in the wooden structures right before the final section.

Edit: Some issues with Steel are: it's a friggin maze, spawn camping once you get to point D, blue trying to get E before the other points (often futile)

 

[Firebrand]

If I had a golden wrench... (by Plumpsy via the Steam forums)

 

[Affeinvasion]

I didn't notice this earlier: Is this new?

Looks like brass knuckles and a wrench all in one

 

[zombieshavebrains]

New to me, who is Watchmaker?