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TF2 Engineer update incoming?
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Technosteve
Banned
Hey assholes get off my internets, I get achievements first!
jaundicejuice
Member
bounchfx said:
"Let's engineers drop mini-sentries instead of normal sentries."
And some of you people under-estimate the killing power of a ninja level 1 sentry. Sure it may not last long, but I've seen and had level 1's take out a number of people before being taken out. Sure a mini-sentry does half the damage of a normal level one, but it has half the cost and takes little to no time to build. Sounds like it has potential.
rollingstart
Banned
this isn't even starting for me
Azure Dream
Member
Helmholtz said:
I don't really see the point of this. The Gunboats completely remove a major combat function to do one job, take the sting out of rocket jumping. It's not a big nerf, but it seems needless.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Whoah, wait, so the Gunslinger isn't a glove? Its meant to be an actual prosthetic that you have to chop off your arm to put on? :lol :lol
Technosteve
Banned
gun boat nerf, shiv nerf sandwich nerf
NO MORE NERFS
NO MORE NERFS
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
jaundicejuice said:
I love this
it's sort of like the old concept of the sentry gun, I'm told.
Lvl 1 only. Fast build.
I think this is the best development for an engie imo. I don't personally care if it does half damage, the fact you can drop it quickly and you distract the other team while you bait them is awesome. It was never about the damage, but about distraction and the fact the sentry is deadly accurate.
jaundicejuice
Member
Gunboats are superfluous. If they replaced melee instead of the shotgun, I might use them, as it is, they're pretty fucking useless. They should tweak the Buff Banner so you can smack people with the horn. And it fills your Rage up like the Ubersaw does for the Medic.
Technosteve
Banned
Boonoo said:
yesterday's all match were everyone went heavy was redunculus
EmCeeGramr
Member
Twig said:
Twig said:
smug-engie.gif
perryfarrell
Member
I've just build 5 golden sentries, activated the wrangler, picked up the sentries & put them in my pocket, and on the way to the next point hit a few enemies with ma guitar and southern hospitality. It's AMAZING!!
No, I'm waiting on my friggin' download :-(
No, I'm waiting on my friggin' download :-(
Diablohead
Member
I am downloading at half a meg which I can live with, patch is over 500MB btw.
If I swap location now I can see my download pausing or slowing to a crawl so i'll just hold out for 15 minutes at it patches.
If I swap location now I can see my download pausing or slowing to a crawl so i'll just hold out for 15 minutes at it patches.
Technosteve
Banned
Firebrand said:
Meet the Hats video eh, i like the jib of your jive
Hmm, I really liked the gunboats. They allowed me to move around really fast taking very little damage. I didn't have to think "can I afford to do a rocket jump?". Good means of getting behind enemy lines or making a quick escape. Oh well, I'll probably still use them but this kind of sucks.jaundicejuice said:
Kuro Madoushi said:
Half damage, though, really gives you some time to find and kill these things. Even scouts shouldn't have toooo much trouble running away from them. And any heavy/demo/soldier should be able to take them out lickity split. They will be fun, though, along with the new shotgun.
I almost see them more useful not as a hidden harassment but as something you drop on the front line as you're pushing your cart or whatnot forward. That way you get more assists out of them.
Although, it's really all up in the air. We'll see how it goes.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
So how do achievement servers work anyway? Just a bunch of people working together? "Here, you get damaged by my sentry and let me finish you off and I'll destroy yours and let you revenge crit me?"
Diablohead
Member
Currently the 35% reduction wasn't enough, 8 seconds of bleed would = more damage then 1 swing of the regular shiv, thus making the original shiv only good for instant damage.MNC said:
I can see this change balancing out the overall damage delt, trade some atk power for 6 seconds of bleed which will total up the damage done anyway.
Azure Dream
Member
MNC said:
It's probably like the Blutsauger, too many people saw it as a straight upgrade.
Technosteve
Banned
download rate went from 900 kb/s to 5 kb/s. People don't play games in Philly stop hammering my connection
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
My update keeps pausing, arrrrghle
Boonoo just hates heavies.Technosteve said:
No one even PLAYS heavy much in the competitive matches that he likes best, presumably! If they were so good then why wouldn't they go there!And heavies got better when they decreased the gun speedup time and increased the running speed, etc. The sandwich nerf makes me sad since I really liked the sandwich, but I guess it is fair that it's a buff if you aren't around medkits. As long as they don't make it as mostly useless as the chocolate bar. I thought some people here were already saying that the sandwich was totally useless, the shotgun should totally be used instead, etc. I like heavy being overpowered though. Good snipers and spies can still kill them, but I am biased since I like being overpowered. It's the only class I'm kinda good at and I feel like everyone (especially Boonoo) wants that taken away from meeeeeeeee ;_;
The gunboats nerf seems just bizarre. Who uses it much anyway? Most maps aren't vertical (aside from maybe the new ones) so you give yourself a bunch of fall damage if you try rocket jumping, unless you're crazy good at horizontal rocket jumping.
The shiv nerf makes me sad too. It was already doing less damage, and now it makes spy tagging harder and does less damage? Are they trying to make community items more uniformly bad? :lol
Technosteve
Banned
pyro needs a chainsaw
speculawyer
Member
For the lazy:commissar said:
Doc Holiday
Have a dispenser heal three teammates at the same time.
No Man's Land
Use a sentry gun to kill 25 enemy players trying to capture a point.
Trade Secrets
Kill 20 players carrying the intelligence.
Death Metal
Pick up 10,000 pieces of waste metal from destroyed buildings.
Land Grab
Help a team member construct a building.
Git Along!
Manage to get to, and then remove, a sapper placed on your building while you were several meters away.
How the Pests was Gunned
Destroy 50 enemy stickybombs lying in range of friendly buildings.
Honky Tonk Man
Smash an enemy player's head in with your guitar.
Breaking Morant
Kill 10 Snipers with a sentry gun under the control of your Wrangler.
Rio Grind
Perform 50 repairs and/or reloads on a sentry gun being Wrangled by another Engineer.
Patent Protection
Destroy an enemy Engineer's sentry gun with a sentry under control of your Wrangler.
If You Build It, They Will Die
Haul a level 3 sentry gun into a position that achieves a kill shortly after being redeployed.
Texas Ranger
Haul buildings one kilometer over your career.
Deputized
Get 10 assists with another Engineer where a sentry gun was involved in the kill.
Drugstore Cowboy
Have dispensers you created dispense a combined amount of 100,000 health over your career.
Circle the Wagons
Repair 50,000 damage to friendly buildings constructed by other players.
Built to Last
Help a single building take over 2000 damage without being destroyed.
(Not So) Lonely are the Brave
Keep a Heavy healed with your dispenser while he makes five kills.
Battle Rustler
Teleport 100 team members into battle.
Revengineering
Use a revenge crit to kill the enemy player that destroyed your sentry gun.
Search Engine
Kill three cloaked Spies with a sentry gun under control of your Wrangler.
Pownd on the Range
Kill 10 enemies outside the normal sentry gun range using the Wrangler.
Building Block
Have a sentry shielded by the Wrangler absorb 500 damage without being destroyed.
Unforgiven
Kill three enemies with revenge crits without dying.
Quick Draw
Kill a spy and two sappers within 10 seconds.
The Wrench Connection
Kill a disguised spy with your Wrench.
Silent Pardner
Upgrade 50 buildings built by other team members.
Fistful of Sappers
Destroy 25 sappers on buildings built by other team members.
Doc, Stock and Barrel
Repair a sentry gun under fire while being healed by a Medic.
Best Little Slaughterhouse in Texas
Rack up 5000 kills with your sentry guns.
Frontier Justice
Within 10 seconds, have your sentry kill the enemy that just killed you.
Six-String Stinger
Provide an enemy player with a freeze cam of your guitar playing skills.
Uncivil Engineer
Provide an enemy player with a freeze cam of you and the sentry that just killed them.
Texas Two-Step
Use your shotgun to finish off an enemy recently damaged by your sentry gun.
The Extinguished Gentleman
Have dispensers you built extinguish 20 burning players.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
..................huhFirebrand said: