Metalic Sand
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Havent played Arena in awhile but 32 man arena on Lumberyard is great!
Lumberyard is like a 2fort for me. Such a solid map
Lumberyard is like a 2fort for me. Such a solid map
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TF2 Engineer update incoming?
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Metalic Sand said:
Goddamn right (although I prefer 24 or less). They could turn lumberyard into a beautiful KotH map. All they would need to do is add an area behind the current spawn and make that the spawn--like Viaduct.
[spawn]---[point]---[spawn]
to
[spawn]---[building]---[point]---[building]---[spawn]
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
I do agree that instaspawn is lame as it completely breaks certain maps, making them near impossible to actually complete (payload).
Yeah. I don't mind it being lowered (I know the spawn time is up to 13 seconds for a reason, but I am bored, my last life wasn't even 13 second long! Let me set the heavy on Fire!), but it being off also leads to a stalemate more often IMO. You just get stuck at a single area since people can keep running right back to it right away. The smaller the map, the worse it is.Stallion Free said:
PedroLumpy
Member
Demigod Mac said:
I'm not sure when this was added, but good on them. Maybe it'll make some local servers think twice. I could use a few more servers nearby playing standard settings.
And man, I was kinda hoping for their next payload race map they'd go with something like the final pipeline map. Moving the cart perpendicular to the opposing spawn was a nice change from moving it past the opposing spawn. I swear Valve loves their stalemates.
Oh yes and instant spawn is balls. Odd that they don't make a traditional deathmatch option where instant spawn could work.
Demigod Mac
Member
Extra players can be fun sometimes (you can get into some really crazy battles) but it makes some classes nearly impossible to play.
Try playing scout or spy when there's constant soldier and demoman spam flying around everywhere.
Try playing scout or spy when there's constant soldier and demoman spam flying around everywhere.
demosthenes
Member
PedroLumpy said:
In the last update.
PedroLumpy
Member
Demigod Mac said:
That would be it, I play scout mostly. The game is supposed to have a bit of space. To each their own though of course. Options are everyones friend. To the point where I don't really like class caps in theory. Ideally the game would be balanced so that any team of all one class could be beaten, reality may be a bit different....
Technosteve
Banned
some of the models people are making in polycount are insane the 1800's take on TF2 characters are amazing.
Diablohead
Member
Wish I knew about the contest before it was over, I would have enteredTechnosteve said:
least I can keep making hats!
Technosteve
Banned
Pyro needs a Tea Cozy as a hat
jaundicejuice
Member
I love the Gunslinger, it may only be situationally useful but damn is it a lot of fun to use. I was the the top player on koth_nucleus with the Gunslinger one round. It deploys so fast and it costs nothing to make. It slowed down people trying to ambush rush the point (one scout fell to his death because my baby sentry stopped him dead in the air), and I just kept dropping it in random corners in high traffic areas, or covering the point from some obtuse angle below.
Plus punching a heavy to death with the robot hand is epic. As is the Frontier Justice when your baby sentry loaded it up with multiple revenge kritz. Once the update settles down, I think I may go back to maining engi.
Plus punching a heavy to death with the robot hand is epic. As is the Frontier Justice when your baby sentry loaded it up with multiple revenge kritz. Once the update settles down, I think I may go back to maining engi.
Is anyone else getting weird performance issues? At random times either the whole game would freeze for 10 seconds, or I would suffer massive lag spikes that make the game unplayable. For some reason these problems started last week and have been getting realy frequent lately. It's super frustrating and is starting to suck the fun out of the engy update.
Diablohead
Member
I earned 11 revenge crits earlier for my FJ 
then 10 seconds later the round was over so I never used them
The source engine is good but TF2 and all it's tweaks & content have forced the little thing to cry under it's own weight. Valve won't upgrade the core TF2 source code because it will remove DX8 and kill off quite a few players who force it for better frame rates. There is more too it then that but that's what I have heard and learned.
The engine needs a good clean up and tweak, I hit 60fps in small areas but after an hour or so my frames drop to 40 quite often for no explained reason, no other pc title does this for me.
then 10 seconds later the round was over so I never used them yes a hell of a lot of hickups and I know it's not my pc setup as all other games run baby smooth like UE3 titles and most other currently installed pc games.squinters said:
The source engine is good but TF2 and all it's tweaks & content have forced the little thing to cry under it's own weight. Valve won't upgrade the core TF2 source code because it will remove DX8 and kill off quite a few players who force it for better frame rates. There is more too it then that but that's what I have heard and learned.
The engine needs a good clean up and tweak, I hit 60fps in small areas but after an hour or so my frames drop to 40 quite often for no explained reason, no other pc title does this for me.
I actually noticed something like this yesterday. I went in offline mode and practiced sniping on koth_nucleus against computers (really easy targets, but it's fun), and even when I pulled all the settings down to medium I'd still get 40fps avg, going down to 20 frequently. When I started the session I was getting 60. What?squinters said:
Diablohead
Member
Bots will zap your CPU, how many did you have active?John said:
I find with 32 bots I get half my usual online performance.
I only got up to 5 or so revenge crits with the gunslinger, and I mostly used it with the wrangler even if that's a bad idea. I would just keep popping it up, spamming at the distant enemy players, and occasionally killing some isolated ones. Then I got the crits, commissar ubered me, and I killed a couple of people as an uber crit engineer. I think I dropped one more tiny sentry to try to escape and we barely made it back to safety. :lol
Dead Prince
Banned
did the recent TF2 update nuke the servers?
squinters said:
Possibly your antivirus scanning a game file.Bluth54 said:
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Lock_ups
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Yasae said:
Dont know how you can mess up a quote but you managed.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
So I just got milestone 1 and it gave me another huntsman. goddammit.
Instaspawn too then. Both I enjoy because I'm actually playing more of the time and there is always an enemy nearby. Creates more stalemates, but I don't have a problem with those as long as the teams are balanced.derFeef said:
I think "game-destroying instaspawn" is hyperbole but I really have no problem with a 3-5 second respawn time either.
enzo_gt said:
It's not hyperbole when you factor in that vanilla TF2 isn't a straight up deathmatch game (although DM servers are nice to hop on to now and again). It's a team based, goal oriented game, and when you have instaspawn it devolves into chaotic DMing.
Mapmakers build in respawn timers as a means of balancing their maps; when you take those away or alter them it makes the game not function properly.
Respawn timers also act as a slight penalty; it makes death something you want to avoid, but they're still part of the game. When someone dies it should negatively impart their team--like the penalty box in hockey.
But, to each his own and whatnot. Just saying that when you change aspects of the game--spawn timers, player count, crits, etc.--you are effectively doing some game-destroying, whether that destruction is negative or positive is up to the player.
I think you're not alone, in that some people (possibly even ME sometimes) may enjoy playing what's essentially deathmatch, with occasional intel capturing thrown in, on 2-fort.enzo_gt said:
And I can certainly understand the desire for quicker spawn times when I wait something like 17 seconds to spawn, walk out the door to try to defend a point, get blown up by the 7 stickies on the exit, and wait another 10-20 seconds to do it again. :/ It's not much time but it adds up sometimes.
Circle of Willis
Neo Member
Not a fan of instaspawn servers myself. I'm guessing the reason people flock to it is b/c it inflates scores so it's easy to get a ridiculous K/D ratio. That and people going for objectives are easier kills compared to a straight up deathmatch. The increase of stalemate happening also means that you're less often to lose. It's basically multiplayer with no negative penalties.
While I personally like servers with slightly longer respawn times (in the 7-10 second range), I do like 32 players as opposed to lower player counts due to the chaos. The only issue I have with the larger player count is when a team goes predominantly demo or soldier and proceeds to just carpet bomb the hell out of a chokepoint. It's beatable but annoying..
While I personally like servers with slightly longer respawn times (in the 7-10 second range), I do like 32 players as opposed to lower player counts due to the chaos. The only issue I have with the larger player count is when a team goes predominantly demo or soldier and proceeds to just carpet bomb the hell out of a chokepoint. It's beatable but annoying..
Really, I think what makes TF2 so great is that it doesn't have a standard deathmatch mode at all. But I do get annoyed at high spawn times. anything more then 10 seconds really gets on my nerves.
And large servers make th Pyro and Spy classes much harder to play, since there is just to much speratic fire to ambush an enemy.
And large servers make th Pyro and Spy classes much harder to play, since there is just to much speratic fire to ambush an enemy.
See, 3-5 seconds is almost the same because it is not balanced towards the map, as the respawntimes are getting shorter/longer depending on what team you are and whatnot.enzo_gt said:
I would not mind this being unchangebale/hardcoded but I think many player will leave tf2 then.
Drkirby said:
There are some popular DM configs that have been made. SOAP TF2DM probably the most so.
It works pretty well. It's 4v4 and you fight in the main room of the map (bridge on blands, mid on granary, B on gravelpit, etc). When you die you're instaspawned at the outskirts of the fighting area. When you kill someone you get a chunk of life and ammo back, and your health regens if you're out of action of a while.
It's directed mainly at scout, soldier, demo (a lot of comp people use it to practice)
Well, the trick is to just find servers cater to your play style. There's plenty of room for everyone, I think. The more options servers can capitalize on the better.
I've grown very fond of a 24man no crits server myself, recently.
arrgh
Ever since the Engineer update I've been having problems. I often can't begin matches, I'll get stuck in spectator mode. When I CAN choose a side I can't switch classes or sides. I tried spawning as an engineer but I can't build anything, as I'll get switched back to the shotgun. I'd suspect choosing a spy will cause the same problems.
This only happens when I play online. Offline everything runs fine.
Has this happened to anybody else?
Ever since the Engineer update I've been having problems. I often can't begin matches, I'll get stuck in spectator mode. When I CAN choose a side I can't switch classes or sides. I tried spawning as an engineer but I can't build anything, as I'll get switched back to the shotgun. I'd suspect choosing a spy will cause the same problems.
This only happens when I play online. Offline everything runs fine.
Has this happened to anybody else?
explodet said:
I can't help you with the later stuff, but if you ever get stuck in spectate mode open up the console and type spectate. That'll force you into true spectate mode and you'll then be able to choose a team. I'm surprised that valve hasn't fixed this bug yet. It's been like that fo years.
Diablohead
Member
Never really noticed as I hardly play with bots outside of testing something, they are well made but sometimes a bit predictable like sniper locations, they are not perfect but far from crap.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
Something at all related to the engie? Does it not work like that anymore?Clydefrog said: