Popularity. It refined everything and is the biggest game in the industry.
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I think Runescape deserves spot more.
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The 50 most important PC games of all time (PC Gamer)
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I think Runescape deserves spot more.
petran79
Banned
Very few 80s titles overall
Eg Trinity by Infocom had one of the most emotional moments, considering it was created in the mid-80s.
In Trinity, Brian Moriarty accomplishes what few IF authors are able to do:
combine an intriguing, original premise with outstanding writing and ingenious
puzzles. The game's writing will draw you into its fantastic world... so much so
that you can almost visualize the magical mushroom portals, feel the eerie
suspension of space-time, and be moved by the sight of a crippled Japanese girl.
The game's puzzles are tough, but they are never illogical, and they mesh within
the gameworld seamlessly. The game's anti-nuclear message is powerful, but never
overbearing, and many of its stronger literary metaphors (e.g. the umbrella, the
sundial, and the crane) will stay with you long after the game is over.
It ignores the European computer gaming scene, some of which was also prolific on the much more advanced Amiga systems previously.
Alone in the Dark defined modern 3D survival horror. Little Big Adventure was the first game to create an open isometric world to such a large scale where you could roam free.
So all computer games should be considered.
So, Shadow of The Beast should be there. It was the foundation for all graphics-driven Digital-foundry-like conversations that still persist today.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Broken Age over Mass Effect or Dark Souls is ridiculous though"
Broken Age is a significantly more *important* (key word) game than Mass Effect.
Broken Age is a significantly more *important* (key word) game than Mass Effect.
What influence on the pc game space has Dark Souls really had? Sure GAF loves to make memes about it, and it reviewed well, but I don't see droves of clones and knock offs or its mechanics becoming standard.
It was very likely instrumental in getting attention from a huge chunk of the industry that historically ignored the platform to start porting games to it.
And it very much so is getting its' multiplayer systems copied in a variety of ways.
That being said, I don't think it deserves a spot on the top 50, but does deserve the spot it has in HM.
So it's more of a candidate down the road then, since it's impact has yet to really land if we're talking Japanese titles on PC.
It's showed that publishers can release hot garbage if it has hardcore popularity and the community will happily do the legwork to fix it.
QuantumZebra
Member
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
EverQuest
Half-Life
Baldur's Gate
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List checks out folks, pack it up
System Shock 2
EverQuest
Half-Life
Baldur's Gate
...
List checks out folks, pack it up
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
I wonder if I can still find Oregon trail anywhere.....
Reading that made me want to play that game really bad...
Been a while since I've died of dysentery
Reading that made me want to play that game really bad...
Been a while since I've died of dysentery
Teknopathetic
Member
"It's showed that publishers can release hot garbage if it has hardcore popularity and the community will happily do the legwork to fix it."
Bethesda has been showing that for over a decade.
Bethesda has been showing that for over a decade.
Yeah, and not only them. The PC community has a long history of fixing broken games /updating them to run on modern OS's.
The honest answer is there's just too much ground to cover, and beyond a few outliers the focus is more on the IBM PC. That wasn't an explicit decision, but covering the entire history of every unique system that could be considered a PC across multiple continents is an impossible task.
Mass Effect? lmao
Like if we wanna post another influencial Bioware game and one that was the genesis for Mass Effect as well, youd be much better of putting down KotOR. Thats the game (with Morrowind) that brought the WRPG to consoles.
redblack85
Member
No Diablo II,Commandos series,Age of Empires,Grim Fandango,Dota 2?
Chezzymann
Member
First huge kickstarter game
Seems to be mostly (almost exclusively, once you eliminate the earliest games) IBM-PC focused. Would have been interesting in seeing some stuff that helped drive the Spectrum, Amiga, etc and maybe some of the early Japanese PC games which were the starting points for many of the Japanese developers of today. Dragon Slayer is certainly one of the most influential games ever, for instance...
MrCunningham
Member
That's true, it would be nice to see microcomputers as well. But this is PC Gamer, and they have only ever covered IBM-PC/ WinTel, DOS and Windows gaming. I don't think they have ever covered anything outside of that.
What influence has it had on the PC gaming space in the last (holy hell) 19 years?
Love the game, but lets be real, it's impact is more cult-ish than watershed
Better game is a question of preferences, but the importance of Unreal (Tournament) reaches until today. It was the game that marked the transition to Epic as leading (?) engine developer. Without being a developer a lot of choices they did continued influencing other games. From MOD music in Deus Ex to the controls of Bioshock and the shadows of Splinter Cell.
CecilRousso
Member
None of these are extremely influential Dota 1 is way more influential than Dota 2. Dota 2 is a popular game in the genre started by Dota 1.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Ultima Online is deservedly on the list so I'm happy.
Because importance is measured over time
They made a list of the best 100 games of all time. The full list will be revealed Friday, but Witcher 3 took the number one spot:
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-witcher-3-takes-pc-gamer-top-100-top-spot/
Sorry to bump this bUT I can't make threads yet.
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-witcher-3-takes-pc-gamer-top-100-top-spot/
Sorry to bump this bUT I can't make threads yet.
arts&crafts
Member
Other than Diablo 2 missing its a pretty good list, but that game is the greatest and created (popularized) a whole genre. I see Diablo, but D2 is better. I guess "influence" diablo = diablo 2 so its fine.
Warcraft 3 should be on the fucking list. Without tools we wouldn't have had league of legends or dota. The captain system in both it and starcraft led to so much other shit in gaming I can't believe games it inspired heavily made the list but not the one to really get things started with such mechanics.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
Nah, they did. Back in the C64/Amiga/Atari ST days PC gaming magazines covered games from those systems as well but as the IBM PC became more and more ubiquitous, PC gaming and DOS (later Windows) pretty much became synonymous with each other.
I'd venture to guess though that the current staff of PC Gamer is probably too young to remember gaming on C64 and Amiga systems.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
That's a good list.
One game I would add:
Strike Commander (1993) - This should be added for technical achievement in graphics. The game had texture mapping, 3D gameplay two years before the 32 bit era started. Here's a gameplay video. The guy who made this game is Chris Roberts who went on to do Wing Commander, Starlancer and Freelancer and is currently heading up Star Citizen. He's always kinda been known for pushing PC's to the max.
Also, I believe that Far Cry should take the place of Crysis. I think Crysis perfected what Far Cry pioneered. You can definitely see the lineage from Far Cry in Crysis though.
One game I would add:
Strike Commander (1993) - This should be added for technical achievement in graphics. The game had texture mapping, 3D gameplay two years before the 32 bit era started. Here's a gameplay video. The guy who made this game is Chris Roberts who went on to do Wing Commander, Starlancer and Freelancer and is currently heading up Star Citizen. He's always kinda been known for pushing PC's to the max.
Also, I believe that Far Cry should take the place of Crysis. I think Crysis perfected what Far Cry pioneered. You can definitely see the lineage from Far Cry in Crysis though.
Nocturno999
Member
No Alpha Centauri or Star Control 2 makes me sad. Great list overall.
Nice to see Ultima Online. I'm playing a trial after 10+ years hiatus. The magic is still there.
Nice to see Ultima Online. I'm playing a trial after 10+ years hiatus. The magic is still there.
It's not popular, it's important. Dune 2 was hugely important because it led directly to the games that popularized the genre.
Dune 2 was an important crossroads for RTS games.
hydrophilic attack
Member
I mean, I love Dark Souls. But Broken Age was basically what sparked the gaming kickstarter revolution and proved the viability of crowdfunding games. It's pretty damn important for today's pc gaming landscape
I think Mass Effect perhaps fits better because its further from the classic style of RPGs. Its the one with full voice over, paraphrases and dialogue wheel and action-RPG combat, while KotOR is still a voiceless protagonist and pseudo-turn based Pen and Paper based combat.
TemplaerDude
Member
Dune 2 is the fucking shit. I played the everloving crap out of that game.
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