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The Boys - Final Season Teaser Trailer
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Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
I was expecting a big set piece for the finale, but they hit the right plot notes and am glad Homelander got to be humiliated on national TV. Would have preferred he live out his life without powers, but they couldn't risk that he might get them back.
Sohurmk833
Member
Don't get the disappointment. The show pretty much completely collapsed after season 1. There were exactly 3 entertaining characters: Butcher, Homelader and later Soldier Boy which all were carried by their actors.
Everything else, the other actors, the writing, the visuals etc. were just complete and utter garbage.
Everything else, the other actors, the writing, the visuals etc. were just complete and utter garbage.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Johnny Concrete
Member
A real Butcher took care of her..
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
The Deep had some awful writing too but Chase carried it.
I didn't hate the finale but I didn't like it either. After a while The Deep shtick got super old for me and as you said that's due to the writing. I felt that character was constantly being used as a punching bag. He literally had no character development other than constantly being humilated. At first I was fine with it due to what he did to Starlight in the very first episode but now I just kind of rolled my eyes whenever he showed up since it's super obvious how the writers feel about the character just through the writing
MrTroubleMaker
Member
Weak ending
the virus should have been released. I don't care about spin off or other stories, it should have just ended.
Germuso
Member
But preacher wasn't as popular, the boys season 1 seems to have more budget than season 5.
mindfreak191
Member
Nope, they just ruined the carpet at the Oval Office, that's about it.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
nkarafo
Member
I don't get this supe power level shit. All this time Homelander was just another random supe then? Slightly more powerful than most others, sure, but several times in the whole show he is getting his ass kicked and is unable to actually kill anyone when they try. He can't even kill any of the other supes attacking him when he is slightly outnumbered. How many "A-List" supes he managed to kill 1v1 in the whole show anyway? Black Noir who didn't see it coming and A-Train after he tripped? Why couldn't he just kill Kimiko? Butcher? Soldier Boy? In the whole show he is killing regular people and maybe the random D-lister.
So what exactly was so special about him? First season sold him as a massive threat but after that this was quickly dissipated. They even let him go at one point in an earlier episode, when they could easily make him lost his powers just like in the final episode. Again, he was attacked by a bunch of other supes and couldn't hurt nobody. So why couldn't they jsut do that instead of viruses and other bullshit? Just gather a bunch of other strong supes, meet him in an alley and beat the shit out of him.
They made Homelander a joke after S1 and we were supposed to give a shit about everyone else supposedly fear him?
So what exactly was so special about him? First season sold him as a massive threat but after that this was quickly dissipated. They even let him go at one point in an earlier episode, when they could easily make him lost his powers just like in the final episode. Again, he was attacked by a bunch of other supes and couldn't hurt nobody. So why couldn't they jsut do that instead of viruses and other bullshit? Just gather a bunch of other strong supes, meet him in an alley and beat the shit out of him.
They made Homelander a joke after S1 and we were supposed to give a shit about everyone else supposedly fear him?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
That's just the level of the modern writers. And keep in mind that the Deep humiliation and such made some people felt really cool and smart about themselves even when everybody got bored. Kudos to actorsr playing this properly till the very end.
It is the same situation as Woker 2. At least the Homelander was not raped at the end. Was probably hard to restrain themselves for modern hollywood writers.
But will people even tune in to Vough Rising now? The Boys show was getting less and less popular, getting worse and worse reputation and people somehow will go to a new show? Doubt. It is like D&D with GOT situation where they dropped the show for their Star Wars contracts and those never materialized while D&D became a laughing stock without job.
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Shubh_C63
Member
Well atleast I will for the first 3 episodes. But people keep telling me final season budget cuts is a common thing that Amazon does. Boys writer wrote around that and did a shitty job knowingly.
I honestly think more people than GenV S1 will tune to watch Vought Rising, which is enough for Amazon to greenlit Season 2. People are passionate about this franchise.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I stopped watching around season 3 when I realized that I was basically watching the same thing over and over. And the season ending finales were so lowbudget that it became ridiculous for a superhero show. Reading about the later seasons and the direction the show took I feel like I haven't missed anything of worth.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Powerscaling is non existent in this show. The characters are as powerful as the writers need them to be for the scene.
Invincible has the same problem.
Boils down to lazy writing.
Bojji
Gold Member
Viltrumites have superman power level in one scene and are beaten by random thugs in another - ugh....
The Boys ending was bad, just like the whole S5. Show was amazing in 2019 (when there was not much political agenda and much better writing), but it went downhill from that. No epic fights or anything.
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
I'm in the middle of a Supernatural marathon.
Without spoiling anything does it also suffer in the end?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Because a lot of shows fall off in the last season.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Hasn't he left after 5 seasons of supernatural? Personally I thinl the show should have ended after 5 seasons.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
The final episode is a bit rubbish but it ties up all the loose ends in the second-to-last episode so you can easily overlook it.
Moondoggy
Member
Thank you for calling out these specific reaction fucks, I remember when the writer's strike was happening and they were reacting to anime episodes and saying, "We're sending the half the revenue of our reaction videos to support the Writer's Strike", while offering no support to the Japanese animation studios that actually wrote and animated the shows.Remember that you are not the target audience. This is what Kripke is aiming for:
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Thought it was bad and good.
The good was after he lost his powers, that scene was pretty great, though letting him live felt like it would've been an even worse fate for him.
The bad was pretty much everything else, the fight in the oval office was completely ridiculous, if butcher was that strong, a team of him, starlight and a-train would've overwhelmed him, this entire season pretty much had completely weird power scaling; heck the scene before he apparently flies into space and back in like a second, and before we saw him keep up with a-train, but somehow he can't dodge butcher or fly away because butcher now has speedster level reactions or whatever...
Add in marie and cate and they would've completely destroyed homelander with little effort. Speaking of marie and cate, what a complete waste of building them up with gen v only for them to literally do nothing, heck cate didn't show up at all.
Deep's death was fine, but it was completely expected, so having starlight just fly him to water immediately felt lazy.
Oh Father's death made no sense, yeah they set it up with the ball being special or whatever, but it was still just MM holding it, would've just flown off because MM has no super strength.
The whole V1 plot went nowhere, heck the whole virus plot went nowhere; would've preferred if it was released and supes just because much more rare or mutated with some truly messed up powers that turn the public against them (like mutants from marvel).
And everyone just forgot about soldier boy, who's just chilling in homelander's apartment, while MM decides to get married and live happily ever after.
Oh and it was doubly jarring to see the recap having normal face starlight, why even include that lol; her conversation with marie was so distracting because it was basically marie talking to an animatronic that was trying its hardest to emote.
Overall very weak season, only saved by being fun here and there and homelander's unhinged begging at the end.
The good was after he lost his powers, that scene was pretty great, though letting him live felt like it would've been an even worse fate for him.
The bad was pretty much everything else, the fight in the oval office was completely ridiculous, if butcher was that strong, a team of him, starlight and a-train would've overwhelmed him, this entire season pretty much had completely weird power scaling; heck the scene before he apparently flies into space and back in like a second, and before we saw him keep up with a-train, but somehow he can't dodge butcher or fly away because butcher now has speedster level reactions or whatever...
Add in marie and cate and they would've completely destroyed homelander with little effort. Speaking of marie and cate, what a complete waste of building them up with gen v only for them to literally do nothing, heck cate didn't show up at all.
Deep's death was fine, but it was completely expected, so having starlight just fly him to water immediately felt lazy.
Oh Father's death made no sense, yeah they set it up with the ball being special or whatever, but it was still just MM holding it, would've just flown off because MM has no super strength.
The whole V1 plot went nowhere, heck the whole virus plot went nowhere; would've preferred if it was released and supes just because much more rare or mutated with some truly messed up powers that turn the public against them (like mutants from marvel).
And everyone just forgot about soldier boy, who's just chilling in homelander's apartment, while MM decides to get married and live happily ever after.
Oh and it was doubly jarring to see the recap having normal face starlight, why even include that lol; her conversation with marie was so distracting because it was basically marie talking to an animatronic that was trying its hardest to emote.
Overall very weak season, only saved by being fun here and there and homelander's unhinged begging at the end.
For me the ABSOLUTE MOST UNBELIEVABLE part is Hughie passing up a CUSH government job with that sweet sweet health care and benefits when he has a baby on the way. Dude, you live in AMERICA, you can't cutting it running a discount electronics store with an unemployed wife!! 
Not to mention the lawsuits if Starlight actually helps anyone, no good Samaritan protections anymore!
Not to mention the lawsuits if Starlight actually helps anyone, no good Samaritan protections anymore! 
Grildon Tundy
Member
Seems like writers and head creatives get senioritis/retirement mindset when they know their show is going to be canceled. Not to discount the reality of budget cuts, season length shortening, etc.
My vibe is that shows where the creatives don't know they're going to be canceled (or otherwise end *cough* Game of Thrones) power through and finish stronger.
My vibe is that shows where the creatives don't know they're going to be canceled (or otherwise end *cough* Game of Thrones) power through and finish stronger.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
Yes, but for a different reason mostly because it drags too much. By season 10 you saw everything that could ever see. Season 15 you're tired... It's kinda ironic having Carry On My Wayward Son as a theme song and taking too long to move on
I actually thought that was because Eric Kripke wanted money, but since The Boys and Gen V also struggled with ego and too much fillers, it's very clear that he doesn't know when and how to finish
While I agree with you for the most part, these guys walked into MAJOR $$$ at Netflix. They delivered a reasonably good low budget heavy metal film and then Three Body Problem, which isn't great but at least tries to condense the stellar, but very elaborate and culturally divergent, source material.
On a side note, Benioff is married to Amanda Peet, so he is ALWAYS winning
And Sage, the worst written character EVER, loses her 'powers' and surprise, nothing changes
They could at least had her mention that she had set up an elaborate super-trust of financial systems to provide her a life of luxury, now that her "busy head" is quiet.
I feel like she is a metaphor for the audience, the longer you watch this show, the dumber you get
They could at least had her mention that she had set up an elaborate super-trust of financial systems to provide her a life of luxury, now that her "busy head" is quiet.
I feel like she is a metaphor for the audience, the longer you watch this show, the dumber you get
mileslongthe3rd
Member
My opinion about the finale and the whole season
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Saw some clips on Twitter of the finale. I feel for you guys. I dropped the show after S1 since everything just felt wrong. Didn't trust the showrunner, had modern Hollywood brainrot all over it, changes from the comic were all questionable. Not that the comic is high art, nowhere near Garth Ennis's best work, but I'll take it over this turd.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I bet if you go back and rewatch the first 3 seasons and then immediately put season 5 on, it would age even more poorly. This season and finale felt like the TV version of when a beloved video game series gets a cheaply made spin off by a low level ragtag dev team and the game doesn't play, look, feel anything like the flagship games. That's what this season felt like. Plot holes all over the place, conveniently placed appearances and outcomes, low stakes, small scale, characters not acting the way they usually act, changing the power level of characters to fit whatever is happening in the moment.
I get it's hard to figure out how to conclude a series sometimes, but this had source material to work with. I think what you see in a lot of shows is the writers and show runners and actors are all human, they probably get tired of working on the same project for year after year and they subconsciously get mentally checked out by the end and kinda mail it in. This season felt totally mailed in.
Speaking of previous seasons, the fight at the end of season 3 was 100x better than the fight that concluded the entire series and that should not be. They honestly should have just had Soldier Boy blast Homelander at the end of season 3 and end it all there.
I get it's hard to figure out how to conclude a series sometimes, but this had source material to work with. I think what you see in a lot of shows is the writers and show runners and actors are all human, they probably get tired of working on the same project for year after year and they subconsciously get mentally checked out by the end and kinda mail it in. This season felt totally mailed in.
Speaking of previous seasons, the fight at the end of season 3 was 100x better than the fight that concluded the entire series and that should not be. They honestly should have just had Soldier Boy blast Homelander at the end of season 3 and end it all there.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
It is pretty clear that writers did not care anymore and just wanted to do project their own issues, while actors did their best (without excitement though) to wrap it up. It is visible from the way they post and answer questions. Basically the attitude of "let it end already" .
Certainly the writers, once they had secured the commitment to finish the show and knew it was ending, but abandoned any notion of servicing the show and just went for whatever would get them golf claps within their little social circles, online bluesky communities, and whatever next job they hope to get.
March Climber
Member
Remember that you are not the target audience. This is what Kripke is aiming for:
I know people are grasping at reasons to point at to justify their hate for this season's downward spiral, as part of the usual 5 stages of grief, but even the reactors and redditors had issues with this show's final season.
50 minutes into this video of the people you posted, they discuss the problems and even argue a bit as to what they wanted for the finale:
And this is literally a top 3 post on TheBoys subreddit:
Checking them out, some of the other reactors are even laughing at this finale due to how bad they're finding it, which I'm sure is the opposite reaction that the showrunners wanted.
I think the entire internet agrees that Homelander should have had a supervillain moment of snapping and killing a ton of people, the same way most people didn't buy when Daenerys from game of thrones randomly snapped and burned a full city of people to cinders.
At the end of the day it's simply just a case of this being a very flat ending, and with tons of holes, dropped characters, and dropped arcs in it. Not quite Game of Thrones-level bad in terms of a drop, but definitely down there in quality.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Anyone who likens this to a Game of Thrones finale level drop was probably not watching it when it aired. That shit was catastrophic for how it butchered established character motivations and plots.
The worst thing anyone can say, as the post above, is that the season was missing a couple of Homelander blowout moments of him massacring a group of people etc, but the finale itself was fine.
Hell, I would even say Homelander's verbal evisceration of The Deep was probably worse than anything he could have done physically.
The worst thing anyone can say, as the post above, is that the season was missing a couple of Homelander blowout moments of him massacring a group of people etc, but the finale itself was fine.
Hell, I would even say Homelander's verbal evisceration of The Deep was probably worse than anything he could have done physically.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
March Climber
Member
??
They literally guessed a ton of stuff that happened post-2024 in one season. So much so that the showrunner became increasingly annoyed at how much it was doing it, because he was attempting to go for an over the top version of politics.
That's actually one of the few things about this season that it will be remembered for when it comes to it's positives, Simpsons-level predictions.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Got a list somewhere?
I haven't heard of any.
Kacho
Member
I'll take your word for it buddy.
March Climber
Member
They're in this thread. People called it out week by week.
I can try and find some posts, but a few that I remember are the golden statue/false prophet, the megachurch stuff being combined directly with American politics, Ashley saying they removed all DEI programs, Sage saying they cut funding for multiple government jobs/programs, "Freedom" Camp, friendship with country leaders who are not American allies, and the "Homelander Freedom Academy".
Even moments during the recent 250 year celebration event felt like a callback to Oh Father's sermons, when it should be the other way around lol.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think kripke also tweeted about the golden statue thing like we had no idea this would happen IRL
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SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
I only watched the first 3 seasons, which I felt went from somewhat enjoyable to meh quite quickly. At the end of S3 I'd had my fill. Apart from the fun gore - the thing that made it an intersting watch was Homelander, mad props to Antony Starr he gave it his all for sure. But sadly not enough for me to stick it out.
Judging by the reactions to this final season apathy turned out to be the correct superhero power choice.
Judging by the reactions to this final season apathy turned out to be the correct superhero power choice.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I think the guy who played The Deep did a fantastic job but I think he should have been killed off by the end of Season 2. I just found what they were doing with him to be redundant where I was like, I get it the character is a scumbag.
What is Woker 2?
I like Dean Winchester as an actor but it's funny how much this show shits on superheroes while doing the same thing that Marvel and DC does which his have a bunch of spinoff shows. I might be done after this but I do find the hypocrisy to be funny is all
ChuckeRearmed
Member
The Deep was an amazingly well-done character. He probably indeed should have been killed off earlier, and over the course of all the seasons they failed to develop him at all. I would not be surprised if the Deep is one of the most popular characters of The Boys. Instead, they decided to give A-Train a redemption arc. For obvious reasons.
Joker 2. Essentially, the writers did not like that certain people loved Joker, and they decided to turn the second movie into a story where
everything that happened in Joker was actually done by another person—and they also raped the protagonist from the first film without any particular reason, aside from sending a message to those who liked the character in the first movie
Watching some scenes from the Boys S1, it is amazing how different the show felt.
Soldier Boy is one of those characters who has been carrying the show. The hilarious part is that it was so incredibly hard for them to run Homelander into the ground that even the ending turned into a meme - despite all the humiliation they heaped on Homelander.
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