Has an insane amount of ups and downs. As other's have said the original arch Kripke planned ends after Season 5. Not all of those seasons are really that good either.
It is mostly just Ok after that, with some terrible and some pretty good seasons or half seasons (since I think multiple times a season had different writers half way through.)
It's laborious to get through. If I didn't work out 1-1.5 hours a day in front of a TV I'd have never finished it lol
The Deep was an amazingly well-done character. He probably indeed should have been killed off earlier, and over the course of all the seasons they failed to develop him at all. I would not be surprised if the Deep is one of the most popular characters of The Boys. Instead, they decided to give A-Train a redemption arc. For obvious reasons.
I hope the actor who played The Deep keeps on getting good roles in movies and shows. And as I said before, they only used him as a punching bag to the point that it got super preachy. As for A-Train I was fine with his redemption arc especially before his death, he actually prevented himself from going through that woman
Joker 2. Essentially, the writers did not like that certain people loved Joker, and they decided to turn the second movie into a story where
everything that happened in Joker was actually done by another person—and they also raped the protagonist from the first film without any particular reason, aside from sending a message to those who liked the character in the first movie
Soldier Boy is one of those characters who has been carrying the show. The hilarious part is that it was so incredibly hard for them to run Homelander into the ground that even the ending turned into a meme - despite all the humiliation they heaped on Homelander.
My issue with the last episode is how they handled Homelander death. He should have went on a rampage killing millions who don't believe in him before he died
As for the character himself. I do think Homelander was the best part of the show but I felt they were trying their damnest to humiliate him in the end as you say. There were much better ways for him to die instead of just humilating him. Those images that are shown in that thread with people posting villians dying with the words coming from Homelander mouth is exactly what I'm talking about. I was like we get it, he's a bad dude. I'm fine with killing him off but the writing was terrible.
I think this show should have been three seasons max but as usual the corpos got greedy and want to milk the IP for all it's worth
And yeah it was a total asspull with how they put him down
EDIT- I'm gonna to read the comics next year since I heard they are better. One of my issues with the show was that I found the "rebels" to be mostly boring. I heard the comics there are no good or bad guys
My issue with the last episode is how they handled Homelander death. He should have went on a rampage killing millions who don't believe in him before he died
As for the character himself. I do think Homelander was the best part of the show but I felt they were trying their damnest to humiliate him in the end as you say. There were much better ways for him to die instead of just humilating him. Those images that are shown in that thread with people posting villians dying with the words coming from Homelander mouth is exactly what I'm talking about. I was like we get it, he's a bad dude. I'm fine with killing him off but the writing was terrible.
I think this show should have been three seasons max but as usual the corpos got greedy and want to milk the IP for all it's worth
And yeah it was a total asspull with how they put him down
It was basically a recreation of the scene from season 3, but this time the writers did not want to bother anymore. Homelander could escape, go on a rampage, and so on - but the writers had too much TDS, and also nobody cared anymore and just wanted to wrap everything up.
Probably the very reason they put Soldier Boy in cryo every time - he constantly steals the show, and Jensen is just too good to be killed off, so they did not know what to do with the character. In the first season, Homelander was a smart, evil Superman. Even his manchild persona started to lean hard into that direction once they realized he was too cool for a lot of people. The milk joke had overstayed its welcome, too.
The writers probably felt smart and smug about themselves while writing the later seasons, when they were basically like SNL writers who think they are funny and clever. I would love to see how the Homelander from season 1 would act in the last episode.
Has an insane amount of ups and downs. As other's have said the original arch Kripke planned ends after Season 5. Not all of those seasons are really that good either.
It is mostly just Ok after that, with some terrible and some pretty good seasons or half seasons (since I think multiple times a season had different writers half way through.)
It's laborious to get through. If I didn't work out 1-1.5 hours a day in front of a TV I'd have never finished it lol
I personally dropped after the season 5 and I think checked some other episodes but not sure which ones.
They really did not know how to deal with Chuck and also the way the handled the Death was embarassing. Leviathans were also a shitshow. Crowley stayed amazing till the very end though
The Deep was an amazingly well-done character. He probably indeed should have been killed off earlier, and over the course of all the seasons they failed to develop him at all. I would not be surprised if the Deep is one of the most popular characters of The Boys. Instead, they decided to give A-Train a redemption arc. For obvious reasons.
Joker 2. Essentially, the writers did not like that certain people loved Joker, and they decided to turn the second movie into a story where
everything that happened in Joker was actually done by another person—and they also raped the protagonist from the first film without any particular reason, aside from sending a message to those who liked the character in the first movie
.
Watching some scenes from the Boys S1, it is amazing how different the show felt.
Soldier Boy is one of those characters who has been carrying the show. The hilarious part is that it was so incredibly hard for them to run Homelander into the ground that even the ending turned into a meme - despite all the humiliation they heaped on Homelander.
Some of you are far to quick to cry the dei woke angle. Complaining a train for the redemption arc and not deep for 'obvious reasons'.
Deep as great and as funny as he was; was a retard who couldn't see how pathetic he was. Homelander pointed this out and him reacting by hoping to prove himself is the deep all over.
I did want him to grow some balls but he had already overstayed his welcome.
A train was conflicted from the start and had a great arc and not for obvious reasons.
Final fight was pretty good but kind of predictable, was fully expecting Ryan to show up. Butcher way too strong. Surely homelander could have punch right threw him .
I did not say that Deep needed the redemption arc. I said that they did not develop the character at all keeping him as a butt monkey whole 5 seasons. It is also hilarious that him killing some writer was treated as a bigger issue than Noir 2 causing the catastrophe.
Final fight was pretty good but kind of predictable, was fully expecting Ryan to show up. Butcher way too strong. Surely homelander could have punch right threw him .
The writers probably felt smart and smug about themselves while writing the later seasons, when they were basically like SNL writers who think they are funny and clever.
It's been a while since I watched season one but I'm pretty sure it started as all superheroes are dicks, then they slowly changed it to just being Homelander as the main problem.
Absolute trash finale. The final showdown between Homelander and the boys was some shit youd expect out of a student film. Nothing with Soldier Boy, Sage fucks off to a theme park. How do you write/film this and not instantly realize it sucks? Fuck off and get hit by a bus.
Watched it last night.
It was about as bland, predictable and rushed as the rest of the season was building it up to be.
The rushed part in particular makes no sense to me. They had an entire season that they knew was the last one, and yet they wasted most of it on what felt like filler episodes. They could have replaced this entire season with a single 2 hours long episode and basically nothing would have changed.
As for the show in general, yeah it went downhill after Season 2, specially in season 4 once the entire concept shifted to "what if Trump had superpowers!?!?!'".
IMO it always lacked focus, never really committing to being fully serialized or episodic, so it always felt a bit like "random shit happens for 8 episodes". Supernatural also had that mix of styles (mostly "monster of the week" episodes, but with a main plot that gets advanced every now and then) but I think they pulled it off way better, probably because the much longer seasons gave both styles of storytelling room to breathe.
Props to Antony Starr for a fantastic performance all around, dude was the only thing holding the show together after it went to shit, and always delivered a solid performance despite the increasingly bad material he was given.
Props to Antony Starr for a fantastic performance all around, dude was the only thing holding the show together after it went to shit, and always delivered a solid performance despite the increasingly bad material he was given.
The rushed part in particular makes no sense to me. They had an entire season that they knew was the last one, and yet they wasted most of it on what felt like filler episodes.
More of Will coming out? No thanks.
More of sexpot Eleven struggling to find chemistry with stork dork Mike?
More of the anorexia twins dying together while perfect hair looks on?
Problem with ST is they had a nice concept for 5-10 hours of show, but found themselves having to generate 40+ hours of content and were too afraid to really pull out of Hawkins, but nor did they create a sustainable framework for episodic "weird shit sure happens a lot in Hawkins" stories.
In an earlier time ST would have been an episodic show with all the eleven/Vecna/Mind Flayer stuff happening in 2-3 episodes per season. As it is, the heavy serialization lead to a lot of repetitive plot beats and a distinct lack of memorable moments to justify rewatching anything other than season 1 and snippets of later seasons.
It was like reverse GOT.
GOT felt like they really could have used another 3-4 episodes for everything to feel less rushed, but they just refused to make a normal size season.
The Boys had enough episodes, they just refused to use them for anything useful.
Anyone who likens this to a Game of Thrones finale level drop was probably not watching it when it aired. That shit was catastrophic for how it butchered established character motivations and plots.
The worst thing anyone can say, as the post above, is that the season was missing a couple of Homelander blowout moments of him massacring a group of people etc, but the finale itself was fine.
Hell, I would even say Homelander's verbal evisceration of The Deep was probably worse than anything he could have done physically.
I watched it back then, but atleast Got had some budget behind and shitty writing but here there is no budget and shitty writing.So i hated it even more.
