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[March Climber]

Good character development and boosts in personality for these two:

Especially Emma, who's charisma is starting to stand out far above the others. Makes me cautious not to like her too much as a character for that exact reason, since this is The Boys universe.

 

[March Climber]

Annabeth's logic, or rather lack thereof, reminds me of someone...

Also guys, not only have there been more and more main series characters and plotlines popping up in this show, but this episode solidified that this show is a required watch for what happens next.

I'm curious to see how confused people here will be who only watch The Boys and not this show, when season 5 comes out and all of the buildup from Gen V spills into that show.

 

[adamsapple]

Annabeth's logic, or rather lack thereof, reminds me of someone...

To be fair, she was literally murdered and was brought back to life. Her brain is probably not in a stable place.

 

[March Climber]

To be fair, she was literally murdered and was brought back to life. Her brain is probably not in a stable place.

I hope this is said in the show why she is ignoring all potential signs of danger around her just to be mad at Marie. It just takes one line of dialogue. I'm only saying this because it's going to upset viewers if she continues to be that way.

However aside from that, I do like the concept and potential of her character. Hopefully that potential doesn't lead into Eren Yeager levels of plot stupidity.

 

[YCoCg]

I'm curious to see how confused people here will be who only watch The Boys and not this show, when season 5 comes out and all of the buildup from Gen V spills into that show.

People should already be confused because two characters were dropped into the end of season 4 to kidnap/attack Kimiko and Frenchy

 

[March Climber]

People should already be confused because two characters were dropped into the end of season 4 to kidnap/attack Kimiko and Frenchy

True, but at that point I could at least quickly explain to someone in one sentence "oh those are two bad supe students from Gen V".

However, now with everything happening in this season, if Marie and crew show up potentially with other spoiler characters who have appeared so far (including the burnt man and that plot), then this has evolved from one quick sentence to this:

It's the difference between 5% confusion and 50% confusion.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

she should have at least tried to fix cate, there's a clear benefit of having her power work correctly when facing someone like cipher, heck it wouldn't surprise me if her powers are actually the same as cipher's and she's just not using them fully.
the entire group just needs to get over it, they all did bad shit to each other and regret it, time to move on and focus on what really matters.

 

[March Climber]

she should have at least tried to fix cate, there's a clear benefit of having her power work correctly when facing someone like cipher, heck it wouldn't surprise me if her powers are actually the same as cipher's and she's just not using them fully.

Wait one week. Marie didn't say no.

the entire group just needs to get over it, they all did bad shit to each other and regret it, time to move on and focus on what really matters.

They are. Literally everyone in the main protagonist crew has been forgiving each other one by one, moving on, and then working together over the course of this season 2. The reason Marie is walking away had nothing to do with Cate, she just feels done with all of what's been happening.

The only person left who is still holding any sort of grudge is Annabeth.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Looks like marie wasn't over cate at all, and then of course she does the hypocrite thing of doing exactly what she was accusing cate of

Also called it:

I'm glad they made up with cate, her character was becoming a bit too tragic; so since cipher doesn't have V in his blood, the charred guy (godolkin) in the chamber is probably the real him with powers and he's basically controlling a corpse or something?

so silly they'd walk straight into this obvious trap, twice even; they know what cipher's power is yet they follow polarity turning an easy slam dunk for him into a struggle, and then marie rushes off to the second trap instead of, I dunno, healing cate and have her read the body's mind?

I guess the final confrontation will be marie/cate/polarity vs cipher and then either marie will die because she's kinda OP, or cate as the result of some prof x astral plane mind battle with cipher.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Glad she finally fully made up with cate and healed her, also very nice when she pushed the guard but she didn't make him do anything crazy, though I was surprised she didn't really do anything in the final confrontation, it just wound up being polarity and marie.

I didn't really feel the ending actually, it was really weird that he just got to control marie like that, no explanation or build up, just oh I guess I can control you now. I also didn't expect for cipher to just get killed like that, felt like they did that for shock factor, especially since nobody died from the group and he was already "defeated".

Let's see if they can bring it home with the next season of the boys.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Good character development and boosts in personality for these two:
Especially Emma, who's charisma is starting to stand out far above the others. Makes me cautious not to like her too much as a character for that exact reason, since this is The Boys universe.

Too bad they spend so much time with the other characters. Start of the season I was enjoying even the drama, but by the middle of the season it became so much about the lame romance between Jordan and Maria or whatever.

 

[March Climber]

Too bad they spend so much time with the other characters. Start of the season I was enjoying even the drama, but by the middle of the season it became so much about the lame romance between Jordan and Maria or whatever.

?

I'm confused by this take because my friends had the exact opposite take, that any romance and drama took a large backseat to the main plot this season, which is why Jordan and Marie's very few scenes of connection and then sudden breakup came across as a collective 'meh' shrug. Same with Emma's love triangle, which was consistently pushed into the background and mainly used as a gag. The only actual annoying thing about Jordan breaking up with Marie was the fact that Jordan did it at the exact worse time to do it, when tensions were high and Marie was at the precipice of crossing a line.

Otherwise, they literally wrapped up all of the drama and all of the characters apologized and made up 2 episodes ago at the house of

Spoiler

Stan Edgar's

like I mentioned above. Maybe this was their attempt to not fall into the typical drawn-out tropes that drama shows fall into. Regardless that kind of solidified that they had shoved aside any potential chances of more drama and romance all in service of the main Cipher plot.

 

[IntentionalPun]

March Climber : Huh, I guess I just kinda disagree... but I didn't really intend to mean it was all just relationship drama. It was just the same "dramatic" conversations over and over again. Convos about Marie's power level and who she should trust were in every epsidoe.. conversations about not trusting Kate... the endless back and forth with Marie and her sister who we knew would eventually make up... It was all rather boring and heading in such an obvious direction to me. Of course she healed Kate, it was telegraphed the entire season.

I don't even mind predictable if it's done well, but found many of these conversations just boring and not well acted. The actors are good too so it felt like a writing issue to me.

There just wasn't enough to it, but plenty of scenes of conversations to get there.

 

[Coconutt]

Glad she finally fully made up with cate and healed her, also very nice when she pushed the guard but she didn't make him do anything crazy, though I was surprised she didn't really do anything in the final confrontation, it just wound up being polarity and marie.

I didn't really feel the ending actually, it was really weird that he just got to control marie like that, no explanation or build up, just oh I guess I can control you now. I also didn't expect for cipher to just get killed like that, felt like they did that for shock factor, especially since nobody died from the group and he was already "defeated".

Let's see if they can bring it home with the next season of the boys.

I thought it was clear that he was able to control Marie because of how much he was pushing his powers. During his "training" in his newly restored body, they mentioned that before he could only control 2 people at once but he forced his powers to evolve by controlling multiple of the weaker Godolkin students at the same time to the point he could control Marie.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I thought it was clear that he was able to control Marie because of how much he was pushing his powers.

I don't think so, it seems like he as going through a training montage so it would take a little while, not just a few hours; also when marie arrived he said she was "early" and he didn't even bother trying to control her; there's really no reason not to if he was able to at that point.
It wasn't until tailgirl stole his powers and marie used her powers that he suddenly was able to control her, even "thanking" her for some reason

 

[March Climber]

March Climber : Huh, I guess I just kinda disagree... but I didn't really intend to mean it was all just relationship drama. It was just the same "dramatic" conversations over and over again. Convos about Marie's power level and who she should trust were in every epsidoe.. conversations about not trusting Kate... the endless back and forth with Marie and her sister who we knew would eventually make up... It was all rather boring and heading in such an obvious direction to me. Of course she healed Kate, it was telegraphed the entire season.

I don't even mind predictable if it's done well, but found many of these conversations just boring and not well acted. The actors are good too so it felt like a writing issue to me.

There just wasn't enough to it, but plenty of scenes of conversations to get there.

I agree with the repeat lines and plot points for the last few episodes. They were a bit heavy handed with the whole 'Marie remember you're an S-tier supe' and that's one of the many reasons that episode 7 felt redundant and almost unnecessary. It almost felt like episode 7 was more for the people who browse their phone during episodes and pay half-attention to what's going on.

Even though I was a bit saddened by who dies in the end because I was expecting that person to be their own chaotic element in The Boys main show, there will at least still be a chance for a 3-way fight in the finale with Marie included.

Not sure how edgy Kripke is feeling about things, but my prediction is that Marie, Butcher, and Homelander will all kill each other, or Butcher will inadvertently kill Marie while fighting Homelander, then die from his own condition. If Kripke's feeling really edgy, he can kill up to 50% of the main cast of both shows (or more) by the end of the finale.

 

[bitbydeath]

The show lacks female nudity.
Guys are naked in almost every frame yet none of the women ever are.

 

[Durien]

The show lacks female nudity.
Guys are naked in almost every frame yet none of the women ever are.

I feel like The Boys is different but I agree. It's like in order to get green lit, they need a schlong in every episode while Cricket is completely hidden...

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I bailed on this series. I watched into somewhere in season 2 when that evil electricity girl kills a guy by breaking his arms or something.

 

[The Pweep]

The show is def too far against showing females in any sexy fashion this season. I mean you have a woman who grows to 20 feet and they are so shit scared to even show a thing, its just silly honestly. She rode a dick on screen last season and they cant even show anything but her face and her foot for 1 second. Lame.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

lol, I just learned today that this is the show all those memes of this guy come from

I've been seeing his face for years on these and just assumed it was disney/marvel shit since I don't watch superhero content

 

[Spyxos]

Spoiler: Ending

Am I the only one who thinks Godolkin still has Marie under his control? Or at least that he is still in her consciousness?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Spoiler: Ending

Am I the only one who thinks Godolkin still has Marie under his control? Or at least that he is still in her consciousness?

, nah, but that would be something actually interesting.

 

[daffyduck]

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Regarding everything else Jason is saying above my post, either you've come this far (4 Seasons into The Boys and 2 Seasons into Gen V) and have accepted this 'hyper-reality' of how this universe does things, or you never will. Nearly everyone in The Boys is an asshole and have killed on purpose or have done 'accidental kills' and moved on quickly from them. This universe's society at large just accepts this world for the shitty place that it is, which is the fact that at a snap of a finger a speedster can plow through a human and explode them into gibs, not apologize, and people move on.

In a world full of shitty people only thing you can do is root for the less shitty people.

I would put this universe on the level of Mortal Kombat's when it comes to killing and dismemberment just being considered a basic, accepted part of life

I wouldn't go that far.

In MK, it's legal/accepted/encouraged, at least for the tournaments.

In The Boys/GenV, it's quite illegal.
It can and has been enforced; the problem is enforcing it is often a suicide mission, depending on who did it or condoned it. Which is where "The Boys" come in. (And yes, they're effectively just more likeable murderers.)

In the case of A-Train, he was originally untouchable (by the law, and by his conscience) because he was backed by the Seven. Now he's officially a fugitive, but they simply can't catch him.

 

[daffyduck]

, nah, but that would be something actually interesting.

It would be too hard to suspend disbelief, even for a superhero show. Corrupted, maybe.

 

[IntentionalPun]

LOL didn't realize there was even an 8th episode.

Just put it on and within the first minute or 2:
- Wow that guy should be 100, but he looks so young, how is that POSSIBLE? (uhhh.... V?)
- Wait, why didn't he just control Marie? "Because she's too powerful"... "No.. no I'm not!" (good lord how long is she going to deny her power?)

This writing is just really bad.

 

[pachura]

The show lacks female nudity.
Guys are naked in almost every frame yet none of the women ever are.

We got 1 upskirt... with a tail

 

[Ikutachi]

I feel like The Boys is different but I agree. It's like in order to get green lit, they need a schlong in every episode while Cricket is completely hidden...

Most female nudity in The Boys are background nobodies.

 

[Banjo64]

Watched e1 the other day… white man bad.