Well at least they're admitting it exists. Remains to be seen whether they'll fix it since the previous games also suffered from this. They really should though, why bother making a game for years and putting so much effort into it, only to have it become unplayable for a large amount of players? If I was a developer I'd want to fix this ASAP so people can actually play what I made.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Console Performance discussion
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Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
The full Lens of Truth analysis is also up, pretty similar conclusion as the DF analysis
http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-analysis/
Though this is a huge freaking difference here ..
http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-analysis/
Though this is a huge freaking difference here ..
Truespeed
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chandoog said:The full Lens of Truth analysis is also up, pretty similar conclusion as the DF analysis
http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-analysis/
Though this is a huge freaking difference here ..
similar indeed....
that's what i get for buying games the day they release before a comparison comes up. If you're deciding between the ps3 or 360 version, buy the 360 version, this is not even something to second think. I went with ps3 because of 360's texture loading problem, but i did not know what awaited me. Sold the ps3 version and am two hours into the 360 version now catching back up to the 15 hours i put into the ps3 version Xo
GodfatherX
Member
just got hit with the shit texture bug, not installed, 360 version, 250gb Slim bought last summer
level 11, probably 15 hours into it, 1 hard crash, some framerate issues last night before i turned it off
I cleared my cache 4 times and still having same issue
any update on when this should be patched?
level 11, probably 15 hours into it, 1 hard crash, some framerate issues last night before i turned it off
I cleared my cache 4 times and still having same issue
any update on when this should be patched?
GodfatherX said:
when, no. But on the skyrim official boads they've at least said that the next patch should address this specific issue. Right now i'm playing installed and just seeing how it goes, since i'm basically replaying 15 hours worth of game, i don't really care if some textures are blurry i'm just catching back up.
RadAndrew502
Member
FINALBOSS said:
Rookie mistake in any Bethesda/Bioware/Obsidian game. Trust me. Always have a few saves back in there. ALWAYS.
GodfatherX
Member
last i had heard they were stating this problem was related to 360 installs, after denying it was related to that. Are they still towing that line its only with installs?sillymonkey321 said:
just really weird it happened this far into the game after having no issues. The pic on the first page showing this issue is exactly what happens. I usually dual wield flame, now my hands arent loading textures correctly, no finger nail/blurry 2 tone texture on hand. Also I have the 2 handed version of that sword in that pic, and again hilt texture isnt loading properly.
So not installed, and cleared cache multiple times with no difference, any other tricks that people have een able to use to fix this?
corporateslave
Neo Member
I must be lucky at this point. I've put in around 20 plus hours into the game I've only experienced one lockup while asking a merchant what they had for sale and have experienced little to no slow down, even after multiple long hour play sessions. All this being on a slim PS3. I wonder if this is a unit specific (slim vs older "phat" models) or a universal concern? My most recent save file is roughly 6.5 MB's in size.
I know what folks are referring to after experiencing pretty bad slow downs on FO3 GOTY edition and to a lesser extent, New Vegas, So I know the complaints are valid for some but do not understand why the complaints so far are not universal. Not that i'm complaining, knock on wood.
I know what folks are referring to after experiencing pretty bad slow downs on FO3 GOTY edition and to a lesser extent, New Vegas, So I know the complaints are valid for some but do not understand why the complaints so far are not universal. Not that i'm complaining, knock on wood.
Playing the 360 version. About just over 2 hours, so not much. I'm extremely fussy when it comes to game performance, but i am quite impressed on how it runs on 360. I've played all other Bethesda titles on PC so i have no idea how Oblivion and Fallout 3 ran on the system, but I'm definitely satisfied with how Skyrim both looks and performs.
It runs at a pretty stable 30fps, and from disc the load times are good enough. Regardless of the texture issue, I'm installing it now for a test as with my current fat 20GB 260 being on its 5th year and in this hot Aussie weather, I'd prefer it to run off the HDD xD
It runs at a pretty stable 30fps, and from disc the load times are good enough. Regardless of the texture issue, I'm installing it now for a test as with my current fat 20GB 260 being on its 5th year and in this hot Aussie weather, I'd prefer it to run off the HDD xD
Philthy
Member
chandoog said:The full Lens of Truth analysis is also up, pretty similar conclusion as the DF analysis
http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-analysis/
Though this is a huge freaking difference here ..
They might want to wait until the games get patched so they actually have something to compare.
It's a bit silly knowing both versions have major graphical issues dealing with the entire engine right now and wasting time trying to compare the two. I can sit and load the same save game, and can point out which textures loaded high res, and which did not. It's completely random every time I load a save. Sometimes it'll show a nice sharp and long draw distance, sometimes it wont. It's completely random. It needs to be fixed.
bonesmccoy
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j-wood said:
As with any Bethesda RPG, the answer is yes.
That's not to say that the PS360 versions are not worthwhile - quite the opposite in fact. Even with the performance issue that is plaguing some PS3 users, it remains a visually stunning and highly enjoyable experience.
astroturfing
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wait, who at Bethesda forums called NeoGAF users "bleeding heart" something?
Hyphen
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fna84 said:
But I can see them in the video. They're not as prominent as the PC and 360 clips, but they're there. I've seen them in my PS3 version, complete with ripples when the water droplets hit the ground.
Anyway, in regards to the PS3 problems. I'm 40hrs in (Level 19), and my save file is just under 6MB. Apart from the odd (and extremely brief) stutter, I haven't really had any discernable framerate issues during any dungeon, open field or city runs. The only issue I've had so far is a sudden 'non-response' to pressing 'o' on my pad, which would normally bring up the character menu - I was transitioning from 1st to 3rd quite quickly whilst grinding a mill somewhere when it happened. However, loading a previous save got rid of the problem.
I have unticked ALL autosave options in the settings menu, and so I overwrite current saves before (if I can sense it) and after every significant fight. I always play with no more than 3 saves. However, when I finish playing, I save/create a completely new file (which makes a 4th save), I copy them all to an external drive, and then delete the previous 3 from the PS3 internal hard drive. So when I go back to playing I start off with just the 1, and I end up creating a couple more saves spread out through my quest. And then repeat the process.
I haven't bought a house yet, and my
housecarl Lydia
finally got to dick around the game (360) last night - wow! i haven't noticed any graphical issues yet (still only an hour or so into the game) and the whole damn thing looks fantastic.
really enjoying myself with it so far and the combat is much nicer this time around.
really enjoying myself with it so far and the combat is much nicer this time around.
base shagohod
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DRock said:
I thought so too, but it doesn't say "Saving.." at the top when it happens. Also, I could press directions on the d-pad forever, but it won't respond until I use the stick first.
Maybe it's my controller, who knows.
(PS3 version) Level 34 or so, and my file save is roughly 9.5-10mb. And the lag/stuttering was getting so annoying that I just turned it off. The game was a perfectly fine/fun/great experience for the first however many hours. And then it slowly but gradually got worse and worse. And it's getting near unplayable to me outside of dungeons. And even then, it's not as smooth as it first was.
Ugh, I can't believe I thought that this time would be any different. I'll wait for patch, but I'm not hopeful... that it'll come soon, or that it'll even fix the problem.
Ugh, I can't believe I thought that this time would be any different. I'll wait for patch, but I'm not hopeful... that it'll come soon, or that it'll even fix the problem.
AgentOtaku
Member
Luthos said:
And there's nothing AT ALL that users can do about this?
HOW THE FUCK do you release a game that's unplayable after so many hours has passed?
I'm serious, this really should be a MUCH bigger deal if true.
CrankyKong
Member
Finally got my 360 copy today.
I think it looks great.
Very clean, no outstanding jaggies, haven't seen any slowdown yet.
A massive step up from Oblivion.
Havent seen the texture bug yet but I'm just running it from the disc
I think it looks great.
Very clean, no outstanding jaggies, haven't seen any slowdown yet.
A massive step up from Oblivion.
Havent seen the texture bug yet but I'm just running it from the disc
GenericUser
Member
Luthos said:
Sounds like some sort of cache problem. Did you try to delete the game data and let the game rebuild it?
AgentOtaku
Member
sponk said:
that's been stated before.
Does this actually work? Do you have to reinstall the game each time or does it install in the background ala Oblivion?
Philthy
Member
Effect said:
Yeah, this is kind of upsetting. A game this big should have news on issues like this across all the major gaming sites. I'm not seeing anything, which is mind blowing. Bethesda should have had a patch to fix something this bad a day or two after launch by now. I would have expected us to be on our third or fourth patch, and here we are not even a peep.
JumpingTheGun
Banned
Philthy said:
They probably wont do anything. They seem to be a company that really doesnt give a shit about performance patches. Hell, theyve already sold what? 4 million in two days? Todd Howard & co. are too busy bathing in dollars to release anything. Pretty sure they never released any sort of patches for F3 and Oblivion. Why do it now?
So does clearing the cache (Skyrim game data in the XMB screen) mean Ill have to reinstall the game again?
Hyphen
Member
Gee said:
It helped me...
Although I didn't really have any serious issues other than a brief 2 or 3 second stutter just as a new area loaded, I went down to using just one save and now even that stutter is gone. As I previously stated, I normally play with 3 saves and a bundle of older saves on an external drive. But the other day I decided to just use the 1, and performance has improved.
I'm currently level 22 and 52hrs in. My save file is now around 7MB, which is up by 1MB from my previous 40hrs save file. I'm still hopeful that Bethesda will fix something before I reach what seems to be now universally acknowledged as a 'point of unplayability'. But for whatever reason, I haven't reached that point, yet. Going to pump in a few more hours now and see how I go...
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Weirded out.
I've had literally no issues with this game whatsoever (360 version).
20+ hours, zero crashes, etc.
Of course now that I say this the game is going to hard lock and delete my saves.
I've had literally no issues with this game whatsoever (360 version).
20+ hours, zero crashes, etc.
Of course now that I say this the game is going to hard lock and delete my saves.
Fisticuffs
Member
PepsimanVsJoe said:
and steal your wallet.
JumpingTheGun
Banned
Level 31, 10+MB save file and over 50 hours in and no issues except the obvious stuttering. still using my method of deleting all autosaves every hour (which fixes the framerate) although Im now carrying an extra manual save and Im considering cleaning out the cache when I get home from work. There really hasnt been such bad issues rendering the game unplayable and it definitely hasnt killed the immersion. Still love the game.
if I hit the point of no return, I'm going to do what you guys are doing and hope for the best.
I'm seeing too many posts of this nature to believe its a few isolated broken systems. THIS NEEDS TO HIT ALL MAJOR GAMING SITES AND BE FRONT PAGE. This is not how you play a game! $60+tax is not cheap! This is a disgrace!
I'm seeing too many posts of this nature to believe its a few isolated broken systems. THIS NEEDS TO HIT ALL MAJOR GAMING SITES AND BE FRONT PAGE. This is not how you play a game! $60+tax is not cheap! This is a disgrace!
I got a good session going last night on the PS3 version. Played for 3-4 hours straight with no issues still. I finally noticed my menu was lagging because the game would autosave sometimes when I went to change weapons or drop some useless items. I fought 2 dragons, discovered at least a dozen areas on the map and not one bit of lag or game lockup. Again, I'm playing on a 606 gig PS3 with an upgraded 320 gig hdd which is also a refurbished unit from almost a year ago.
PS3 version here... It was a great start for me but the stuttering is steadily increasing now that my save file is just over 6MB and I suspect it will become unplayable before too long.
Such a great game to play so I'm even more disappointed about this - not surprised but disappointed nonetheless.
Note to Bethesda - please provide a PS3 patch ASAP so I can get back to this otherwise great game.
Such a great game to play so I'm even more disappointed about this - not surprised but disappointed nonetheless.
Note to Bethesda - please provide a PS3 patch ASAP so I can get back to this otherwise great game.
Christ. The PS3 version really does start running like DOGSHIT after a decently long play session. My file size is almost 10mb at this point..but that doesn't seem to be the issue for me. It's just the amount of time you play in a sitting. It starts churning big time which makes it extremely hard for Mages/Archers because you have to constantly be aiming. I usually just reboot my PS3 and it's OK again for a while.
Pejo
Member
just posting with the fellow ps3 stuttering brethren.
not sure on my hour count but my save file is 9.6m give or take. Dragon bones litter the landscape, every hour or so if I shut my ps3 off and restart, i get a fair amount of playtime before stuttering starts again.
It seems like the easy fix would be to clear corpses after x amount of time. It has to be a combined mixture of that + the endless storage you can have.
After reading other posts, i will definitely try clearing cache and report back with results. I really hope they get a patch out to fix these issues, I was having a great time up until recently and I'd be lying if i said i wasn't a little scared of killing my 60GB launch phattie, which could hold me back from playing the game.
not sure on my hour count but my save file is 9.6m give or take. Dragon bones litter the landscape, every hour or so if I shut my ps3 off and restart, i get a fair amount of playtime before stuttering starts again.
It seems like the easy fix would be to clear corpses after x amount of time. It has to be a combined mixture of that + the endless storage you can have.
After reading other posts, i will definitely try clearing cache and report back with results. I really hope they get a patch out to fix these issues, I was having a great time up until recently and I'd be lying if i said i wasn't a little scared of killing my 60GB launch phattie, which could hold me back from playing the game.
dinosaur_hunter2
Member
I've played Fallout 3 and New Vegas on PS3 and had always noted the performance degradation as the save file size kept increasing. It seems to be a Bethesda problem (not only a Gamebryo's problem). I'm gonna buy Skyrim for the Xbox this time, so I really hope the savegame problem goes away.