Grinchy
Banned
Will definitely try these once they become "official"
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PC Performance discussion
- Thread starter LiquidMetal14
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Will definitely try these once they become "official"
Pagusas
Elden Member
Two new shots:
those look horrible, what happened? Is this from 1.2?
Yes. With AO enabled.
Yikes. Guess it's personal taste. AO rocks.
What do you actually think looks horrible about them? The colours? The shadows?
Betta Lines
Member
Just tried AO. Disgusting. Even on the 'Quality' setting the shimmering in the distance on grass and such is horrendous. It's even worse than the FXAA mod (which also generates shimmering on certain textures).
Pagusas
Elden Member
the shadows, the extreme contrast between there feet on the floor and then a fully lit, solid floor is jaring. The colors look fine and good (though pretty flat and undynamic inside, i guess thats whats making it seem overly 1 dementional, the shadows are too soft and subtle for an inside lightsource like that).
And the outside windows look like a Goldeneye texture thrown into the world of skyrim, just very low res looking.
What platform do play the game on?
Have you seen the vanilla game?
I don't see how your game would look any different apart from the shading.
Thanks, what does that command do and why does it require being in a small room? And what is the .ini command?
pcb stands for purge cell buffer, which empties out your cache of cells to free up memory. Which is why it's best to be in a small interior (like a house), because that room counts as its own cell. Which will be the only cell remaining in memory after the purge.
Ah I see, thank you. Do you know the .ini command for it? And also, if I use the .ini command, is there a chance it will purge the buffers when I am outdoors, or will it only do it indoors?
Pagusas
Elden Member
What platform do play the game on?
Have you seen the vanilla game?
I don't see how your game would look any different apart from the shading.
PC, and im not commenting on the quality of the overal graphics and saying "what did you do to destroy this!" more on the composition, and from the overall flatness of the picture i thought it was having a lighting issue that some people with 1.2 have had (overly bright, dynamic shadows somehow removed). I thought your post was demonstrating a glitch from 1.2, both in the lighting and windows. Obviously I was wrong, I'm sure my game looks the same I just havnt been in a similar area at the same time or had things in the same way.
Haunted
Member
oh god that's freaky. Good thing they're killable.
Does anyone else get giant kids? I'm thinking it's the killable children mod?
Also, how can I delete a mission? The thieves guild wants me to rob an orphan and the game won't let me.
And what do you mean, "delete a mission"? Random quests specifying a target that makes completing the mission impossible is a known issue. :/ I remember reading it in the compilation of bugs on the official forums but can't find the thread again.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Is anyone have more issues with ground textures not loading properly (sometimes not until I'm standing right on top of them), the more they play?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yes. Not every single instance but it's far more frequent than it should be.
And my save file is now at 12MB with about 50 hours of play time.
Honestly not sure what this really even means.
Don't run your game off the same constantly overwritten save for your entire playthrough.
I question the validity of this statement, for several reasons.
1) Overwriting a save file with a new one does not "reuse" it in any traditional sense, it deletes the old file and creates a new one.
2) I've been using the same 2-3 slots (they really aren't) for 50+ hours.
3) The games autosave feature only cycles 3 slots as well.
AFAIK there isn't any indication overwriting a save has any effects on new saves, it sounds and awful lot like conjecture ("oh I have a corrupt save, I was overwriting an old save, it must be a problem with using old saves").
BoobPhysics101
Banned
I'll get it for you.
Do whatever you want. But Oblivion, FO3, and FO New Vegas all had save game corruption problems. With today's massive hard drive sizes, why wouldn't you keep lots and lots of extras if corruption occurs? At least then you have something to roll back to.
Much appreciated. Will I still have to do what you said about inputting it into the console in game for the first time or will putting it in the .ini be sufficient? And does it go in Skyrim or SkyrimPrefs? Thanks.
ColonialRaptor
Member
I always save a new one every time, it's not like they take u a lot of HD space.
Grinchy
Banned
Yeah I probably have like 60 saves in 30 hours. Take that, HDD.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I tried a few settings that I found in the unlocked Skyrim.ini but none of the settings would take. Heck, I don't know even know of one guide that has succesfully tweaked lighting LOD. I wish someone that knows what the heck they're doing would respond.
[LightingShader]
fEyeEnvmapLODEnd=0.0500
fRefractionLODFadeEnd=0.0300
fRefractionLODFadeStart=0.0250
fDecalLODFadeEnd=0.0600
fDecalLODFadeStart=0.0500
fEnvmapLODFadeEnd=0.1000
fEnvmapLODFadeStart=0.0900
fSpecularLODFadeEnd=0.1000
fSpecularLODFadeStart=0.0900
and
[Display]
fLightLODMaxStartFade=1200.0000
fLightLODMinStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODRange=500.0000
fLightLODDefaultStartFade=1000.0000
Those are the settings I'm dealing with and they do nothing.
Something else that is very interesting is that if I look at a pillar that just lit up in a dungeon BUT then I turn up, down, left, or right, the lighting starts to fade. But when I go back to looking at the lit surface it looks like it should. I still get the pop in but I'm starting to wonder if it's what the game wants to render based on where you're looking. Either way I'm still getting lighting pop-in and tree shadows that appear to be tied to a similar radius.
There is a setting somewhere in which tree shadows or shadows in general AND lighting in dungeons can be extended.
And for the record, I tried putting these settings in Skyrim, Skyrim Prefs, and VeryHigh.ini's.
[LightingShader]
fEyeEnvmapLODEnd=0.0500
fRefractionLODFadeEnd=0.0300
fRefractionLODFadeStart=0.0250
fDecalLODFadeEnd=0.0600
fDecalLODFadeStart=0.0500
fEnvmapLODFadeEnd=0.1000
fEnvmapLODFadeStart=0.0900
fSpecularLODFadeEnd=0.1000
fSpecularLODFadeStart=0.0900
and
[Display]
fLightLODMaxStartFade=1200.0000
fLightLODMinStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODRange=500.0000
fLightLODDefaultStartFade=1000.0000
Those are the settings I'm dealing with and they do nothing.
Something else that is very interesting is that if I look at a pillar that just lit up in a dungeon BUT then I turn up, down, left, or right, the lighting starts to fade. But when I go back to looking at the lit surface it looks like it should. I still get the pop in but I'm starting to wonder if it's what the game wants to render based on where you're looking. Either way I'm still getting lighting pop-in and tree shadows that appear to be tied to a similar radius.
There is a setting somewhere in which tree shadows or shadows in general AND lighting in dungeons can be extended.
And for the record, I tried putting these settings in Skyrim, Skyrim Prefs, and VeryHigh.ini's.
diztrukted
Member
been playing around with the "unofficial" 11.12 driver and may be its just me but skyrim seems to run a little smoother for me. I haven't been playing for long so this is nothing to go by but everything seemed "overall" better. My "test" was going into the first dungeon and seeing if the microstutter was still there. It is. but I remember getting slight drops in frames outside of the first dungeon and it ran perfectly fine for me.
Im running on a single 5850 so I don't know what this will/won't do for people with crossfire
Im running on a single 5850 so I don't know what this will/won't do for people with crossfire
H.Cornerstone
Member
Not sure what is wrong but I have a q6600, 4gb of ram and a gtx 560 TI and in the open world the game gets right around 30 on high.. seems to be worse after the batch. I had to lower my settings to Medium. 
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Not sure what is wrong but I have a q6600, 4gb of ram and a gtx 560 TI and in the open world the game gets right around 30 on high.. seems to be worse after the batch. I had to lower my settings to Medium.
Q6600. Too slow for this game.
I have a slower Core2Quad and my outdoors performance is fine, definitely far above 30 FPS average. Edit: Running with the Ultra presets plus some shadow tweaks.
Also can I get that .ini command for the purge cell buffer?
alysonwheel
Member
Not sure what is wrong but I have a q6600, 4gb of ram and a gtx 560 TI and in the open world the game gets right around 30 on high.. seems to be worse after the batch. I had to lower my settings to Medium.
Can you overclock your q6600? My e7200 is at 3.5ghz (stock is ~2.5ghz, similar to the q6600) and with 4gb DDR2 and a GTX560 I get better frames than that on higher settings (ultra with 2x AA, medium decals, tree and land shadows and a few other tweaks and mods): between 30 and 60 outdoors, usually around the 45 mark.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
I have a slower Core2Quad and my outdoors performance is fine, definitely far above 30 FPS average. Edit: Running with the Ultra presets plus some shadow tweaks.
Also can I get that .ini command for the purge cell buffer?
Change this in Skyrim.ini
bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=1
Needs to be under [BSPathing] if you don't have the extended skyrim.ini.
Haha ok that's cool.
I was just confused because I hadn't messed around with the lighting or anything.
I meant completely remove a mission from your quest log. However, I reloaded to before I got the mission and it's ok now after disabling the mod.
Thanks! Testing now.
Edit: Still crashing when I fast travel. I did the console purge too. Any other ideas? What's in the extended Skyrim.ini?
Edit 2: It's something to do with Falkreath. I just successfully fast travelled to Whiterun, and then crashed again when I tried to go to Falkreath. Curious...
This will probably be in the original post but I'll mention it here as a few people still haven't heard of it from time to time. Have you tried the LAA 4GB fix? Made a massive difference for me, went from about 1/2 doz crashes a session to one in the last 40+ hrs of gameplay.
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013
Confidence Man
Member
What's the problem with dungeon lighting? I haven't noticed it myself.
Performance Question:
Outdoor framerate is pretty solid at 60. Towns dip to low 50's but the drop is jarring and "feels" much lower.
Worse than that, and my real question here: in dungeons the game will chug, sometimes as far down as the low 30's. It happens when there are more than four or five candles, braziers or any sort of indoor fog/mist. Number of enemies onscreen does not affect this in any visible way.
Any idea how to fix this?
i5-2500
4GB RAM
560 Ti 1GB
GT240 in slot 2 for PhysX (no Skyrim support, right?)
Win 7 32bit
Ultra Settings plus tree and land shadows ini
4xMSAA, AF
Happens with or without mods
Thanks in advance, this thread is awesome.
Outdoor framerate is pretty solid at 60. Towns dip to low 50's but the drop is jarring and "feels" much lower.
Worse than that, and my real question here: in dungeons the game will chug, sometimes as far down as the low 30's. It happens when there are more than four or five candles, braziers or any sort of indoor fog/mist. Number of enemies onscreen does not affect this in any visible way.
Any idea how to fix this?
i5-2500
4GB RAM
560 Ti 1GB
GT240 in slot 2 for PhysX (no Skyrim support, right?)
Win 7 32bit
Ultra Settings plus tree and land shadows ini
4xMSAA, AF
Happens with or without mods
Thanks in advance, this thread is awesome.
Anyone else have the Skyrim 4GB mod give you an application load error all of a sudden, even though it was working fine before?
I've changed nothing on my PC but all of a sudden when I went to start up Skyrim today I've getting Application load error P:0000065432
EDIT: And restarting Steam fixed it. Weird.
And now when I start the game up I get no audio at all.
I don't understand this. If I play the game on my PC monitor, I get sound. As soon as I switch to my HDTV via HDMI, I get nothing. It was working just fine before with the audio being sent to my receiver whether I was playing on my monitor or HDTV but now all of a sudden it stops working.
I've changed nothing on my PC but all of a sudden when I went to start up Skyrim today I've getting Application load error P:0000065432
EDIT: And restarting Steam fixed it. Weird.
And now when I start the game up I get no audio at all.
I don't understand this. If I play the game on my PC monitor, I get sound. As soon as I switch to my HDTV via HDMI, I get nothing. It was working just fine before with the audio being sent to my receiver whether I was playing on my monitor or HDTV but now all of a sudden it stops working.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Patch 1.3 Notes:
General stability improvements
Optimize performance for Core 2 Duo CPUs
Fixed Radiant Story incorrectly filling certain roles
Fixed magic resistances not calculating properly
Fixed issue with placing books on bookshelves inside player purchased homes
Fixed dragon animation issues with saving and loading
Fixed Y-look input to scale correctly with framerate
General stability improvements
Optimize performance for Core 2 Duo CPUs
Fixed Radiant Story incorrectly filling certain roles
Fixed magic resistances not calculating properly
Fixed issue with placing books on bookshelves inside player purchased homes
Fixed dragon animation issues with saving and loading
Fixed Y-look input to scale correctly with framerate
Complistic
Member
going to finally patch it now that 1.3 is out. I"M TRUSTING YOU BETHESDA!
Nice, they fixed the only 2 issues I ever encountered in the game.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Testing now and reading the forums like a hawk.
Wow, now I am really excited to try it. And I was getting acceptable performance before on my e8400.
Didn't they mess up something in the interface with 1.2? That's why everyone had to backup their interface.bsa? Surprised that's not mentioned, and it concerns me because I really want that inventory mod to come out.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I can't tell anything yet regarding performance. I was able to play it with my old 1.1 exe with LAA and got some performance back. I will try to patch LAA into the new exe.
Treemonkeys
Member
In light of the new patch, should I undo the multi threaded changes I made to my ini files last night? I'm not even sure if they helped with anything.
Took them a while to flip a bit, but still nice to see they're not entirely devoid of reason.
OMG! Where was this in Fallout 3 and New Vegas? But it's great that they are releasing the 4GB update.