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The first Doom crack for denuvo is out

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Assuming this is an actual crack, would it be frowned upon for someone who owns the game to post performance results from the cracked version?

Just curious to see how much Denuvo is effecting the performance.

I think you're in the clear since that's more research than it is actively promoting piracy.

That's potentially the root of an interesting discussion, I'd be interested to hear if there's a significant impact.
 
Good call removing the link OP. At this point it's not going to affect sales that much for Doom. If Denuvo forces people to buy it on release then that's great but it's not good for long term.
 
Assassin's Creed did it. Uncharted did it. Why can't GAF do it?
And even before those two:

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I want to be a Space Pirate.
 
At this point there's absolutely no reason to pirate it other than stealing the game. If you wanted to demo it, then you download the demo they released for it. If you wanted to test out the new vulkan api, then you download the demo they released for it.
 
Übermatik;212566398 said:
Oh come on, like you've never pirated anything. Denuvo cracks are a pretty big deal considering the current climate of game distribution.

You know, I'd be reaaaaaally careful about calling people pirates while I've got a Junior tag, if I were you.
 
As it should be, it's nothing but a nuisance to paying customers and piracy does not affect sales in any important way.
 
It might be hard to wrap your black/white worldview mind around this, but it's possible to be totally against piracy (and buy your games) and at the same time be totally against drm

We all should be like that, ideally.

DRMs (in any form) are just helding gaming back. Or making your games unplayable, or banning you for modding, or keeping you from using your purchased items.

But hey, you got to justify your purchases first (and before some white knight gets offended, I bought doom day one on Steam - yep, DRM).
 
Yeah, don't link to cracks. However, the thread is fine, since Denuvo has been a pretty interesting chapter in the weird anti-piracy tool saga. New thread for new news and all that. There's discussion to be had.
 
Knew it would happen eventually.

Any details about the crack itself? Is it a true crack that actually strips out Denuvo completely, or just another "bypass" that has side effects and can't be adapted for other games?
 
Doesn't seem like true crack, just a loader/emulator.

Edit: Major difference is in preservation, if Deunvo were to be not supported in future, it would break crack too.

Maybe they did something like used Demo as crack, so it might be just Doom and not other games too, but let's see.
 
So is it a crack or bypass? A bypass benefits no one other than shitty pirates, since doesn't it still require the servers to be running? Doom is on sale again for 50% off, absolutely no excuse to ever pirate it. No one is entitled to free entertainment.
 
Knew it would happen eventually.

Any details about the crack itself? Is it a true crack that actually strips out Denuvo completely, or just another "bypass" that has side effects and can't be adapted for other games?
Just a bypass/emulator.

It somehow activates the game for you, still need to have a steam acc running.
 
Oh yea this reminds me, didn't someone claim they found a way to crack Denuvo fully, and they'd start releasing stuff after July 31st?
 
You know, I'd be reaaaaaally careful about calling people pirates while I've got a Junior tag, if I were you.

Why are you treating piracy as a taboo subject? It's rampant. There's high chance that everyone on this forum has pirated something in their life at one point, whether it be a song from YouTube or a TV series online.
What's to gain from stepping carefully around that elephant in the room?

To be clear, I'm not out to expose NIbelSkii* or anyone else. No-one need admit they've pirated something, but let's not pretend no-one has... For a thematic analogy, this is like a ship full of pirates getting up in arms about moral issues when one of them brings back stolen treasure. Or, if you're a fan of The Simpsons, the Bart After Dark episode.


OP should not have provided a link. That much is true. But to interpret that misjudgement as a promotion of piracy is silly, especially considering everything I've said above. Besides, piracy is a multifaceted idea - some do it in protest of DRM applications that prohibit them to continue paying games they've bought.

*Impostor OPM avatar had me confused. Shout out to Dawg.
 
ahahaha now i suppose the war will be started between denuvo and hackers, so many people on forums around the world are screaming "Fuck Denuvo you die bhuauauaua"

It will be interesting to watch what will happen in the next episode! :D
 
RIP Denuvo, you are no longer pure.

On the flip side this means people can start messing with the .exe and make bat shit crazy mods right?

Übermatik;212566398 said:
Still technically theft, I think, but I too would be interested. The idea that Denuvo drops performance is fiercely disputed, involved particularly within reverse engineering the software itself.

I wouldn't consider using torrents to acquire a game you purchased to avoid DRM theft.
 
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Why not just buy it? Game is the best FPS to come out in like what, 10 years or some shit?

This. Game is fucking great. I was pleasantly surprised by it, and I was one of the people expecting a Duke Nukem Forever before this came out.

However the fact that this was cracked shows how Denuvo is just a legitimate customer inconvenience rather than an actual piracy deterrent. I had the lockout the other day where it just completely locked me out of the game for a while. Absolutely ridiculous that they do that to a paying customer.
 
Just a bypass/emulator.

It somehow activates the game for you, still need to have a steam acc running.

But you don't need any ticket, or family sharing, or anything else. These kind of bypass/emulator are already been used in the past, just to log in steam, even with an alternative account, and you're done.
 
Boy, it's almost as if you don't understand why piracy even exists in the first place.

OK friend keep making assumptions. All I'm saying is this game is awesome and it deserves every sale possible.

u do u tho man
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edit: tho I do think Denuvo is dumb
 
So is it a crack or bypass? A bypass benefits no one other than shitty pirates, since doesn't it still require the servers to be running? Doom is on sale again for 50% off, absolutely no excuse to ever pirate it. No one is entitled to free entertainment.

bypass

RIP Denuvo, you are no longer pure.

On the flip side this means people can start messing with the .exe and make bat shit crazy mods right?

Not true crack. So nope :(

But you don't need any ticket, or family sharing, or anything else. These kind of bypass/emulator are already been used in the past, just to log in steam, even with an alternative account, and you're done.

Question is if they made big mistake of demo tickets working/could be edited to work in full version. Anyone looked into depth yet?

Seems like their loader has anti-tamper so...
 
lol, weren't people saying a couple of weeks ago that piracy was OVER because of Denuvo?

That happens every X months. I still remember when the Internet was in arms because of a porny game (Bonetown?) that had the supposedly uncrackable SecuROM. That was years ago.
 
But you don't need any ticket, or family sharing, or anything else. These kind of bypass/emulator are already been used in the past, just to log in steam, even with an alternative account, and you're done.

Yeah I know. just explaining to the poster how it works.
 
Denuvo gets odd reactions. If it's never cracked people worry about preserving games, and now it's cracked months after release and people worry. What would actually please GAF?
 
Soo, can someone clarify since seems like people are talking about two different things. This is nothing to cheer about since it won't help with game preservation?
 
This. Game is fucking great. I was pleasantly surprised by it, and I was one of the people expecting a Duke Nukem Forever before this came out.

However the fact that this was cracked shows how Denuvo is just a legitimate customer inconvenience rather than an actual piracy deterrent. I had the lockout the other day where it just completely locked me out of the game for a while. Absolutely ridiculous that they do that to a paying customer.


Yeah I think denuvo is dumb. I thankfully haven't ran into it yet (I have DOOM on the PS4).
 
Question is if they made big mistake of demo tickets working/could be edited to work in full version. Anyone looked into depth yet?

Seems like their loader has anti-tamper so...

well, we will know if no other denuvo games will get cracked. Anyway it's a steamwork fix online too, you can play online with this!
 
Nice to know I can crack the game should something become broken due to Denuvo, however so far Denuvo has been one of the better DRM solutions with no offline issues or performance issues.
 
I wouldn't consider using torrents to acquire a game you purchased to avoid DRM theft.

I'm not sure, and I think this is a grey area that needs discussion(?).
You bought a 'copy' of the game, and thus are only entitled to legally own that one copy...? So a torrent wouldn't constitute? I don't know, please correct me if I'm off the mark!
 
However the fact that this was cracked shows how Denuvo is just a legitimate customer inconvenience rather than an actual piracy deterrent. I had the lockout the other day where it just completely locked me out of the game for a while. Absolutely ridiculous that they do that to a paying customer.

Doom came out nearly three months ago. Denuvo has prevented piracy in the first 2.75 months of sale. That's pretty effective IMO.

Meanwhile, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Far Cry Primal, and Just Cause 3 are completely impossible to pirate.
 
Nice to know I can crack the game should something become broken due to Denuvo, however so far Denuvo has been one of the better DRM solutions with no offline issues or performance issues.

It's gotta call home after a few days so if you're traveling or something it locks you out.
 
Nice to know I can crack the game should something become broken due to Denuvo, however so far Denuvo has been one of the better DRM solutions with no offline issues or performance issues.

Denuvo almost certainly does have a performance impact, that much can be assumed based on how it works, it's impossible to test what that impact is until it's completely cracked though.
 
Nice to know I can crack the game should something become broken due to Denuvo, however so far Denuvo has been one of the better DRM solutions with no offline issues or performance issues.

Yea I haven't really had any problems at all with denuvo compared to the garbage that was Securom.
 
Übermatik;212568996 said:
I'm not sure, and I think this is a grey area that needs discussion(?).
You bought a 'copy' of the game, and thus are only entitled to legally own that one copy...? So a torrent wouldn't constitute? I don't know, please correct me if I'm off the mark!

Usually you purchase a license to play the game. How you run/acquire the game after purchasing the game don't matter.

And I'm sure you're allowed to torrent things you own for personal use only as backups in case a disc or something gets broken.

Whole area is a bit weird, but as long as you paid for a medium like a movie, song or game, I see no issue with you then torrenting it, as you already purchased it.

What would actually please GAF?
Nothing.

There are sides that never agree on DRM. Personally I cant stand it as it usually seem to hamper paying customers while pirates go around the thing all together.
I've not had many issues with Denovu, but I sure do hate not being able to get full on mods. Seems more like a DLC protection for the companies at this point then counter piracy solution.
 
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