Zombie James
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iamcool388 said:
I just saw this QL yesterday :lol
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The GiantBomb Quick Look Thread
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I just saw this QL yesterday :lol
I think the fact that Brad always dies in quicklooks is hilarious.
That Brad isn't some elite gamer doesn't bother me.
What does bother me is that he obviously has no clue what the hell he is doing.
Completely missing essential gameplay mechanics etc...
His God of War quick looks are cringe worthy. I can't believe he didn't get the clue the first time he got slammed into the wall by the colossus. :lol
That Brad isn't some elite gamer doesn't bother me.
What does bother me is that he obviously has no clue what the hell he is doing.
Completely missing essential gameplay mechanics etc...
His God of War quick looks are cringe worthy. I can't believe he didn't get the clue the first time he got slammed into the wall by the colossus. :lol
templeusox
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You take this stuff way too seriously. He's a gaming journalist and he's good at that job. Whether he is good at games or not is inconsequential.Danielsan said:
grandjedi6
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Virro said:
witness said:
Brad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subject-expectancy_effect
Everyone complaining about Brad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Both Brad and everyone who watched him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor-observer_bias
I should be doing hw said:
You two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effectZealousD said:
me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_blind_spotgrandjedi6 said:
xenorevlis
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And whats wrong with trying to launch yourself a couple times? Not everyone is paying attention to every single developer cue - sometimes its just terrible fun doing what the game has already presented you with and getting caught up in it. Everyone is "guilty" of said things.templeusox said:
Hell you get a trophy for dieing enough times to be offered Easy Mode!
Sorry if some of you took my comments to mean I was hating on Brad. I love the way the quicklooks are done, the fact that they're usually longer than the same 10 minutes of gameplay we see covered on every site and that they're being true with expressing how they feel when they play the game.
Its just watching these QLs sometimes colors your opinion of a game in a light not necessarily representative of the normal game experience. The Demon's Souls QL for one (Was it Vinny who played that one?), and Jeff's comments throughout it, as well as the Co-Op episode talking about Demon's Souls really put me off to the game. But after actually playing Demon's Souls, I rewatched some of their game footage and it was a very "facepalm", "you're doing it wrong" kind of moment. I was glad I saw the footage, but those two clips definitely didn't do the marketing guys at Atlus/From any favors.
Giantbomb's appeal to me is that they're pretty much the definition of enthusiast gaming press. You can tell they love what they're doing and when something sucks, they call it out. I don't want to be wasting money or time on shitty games and most of the time, enough for my satisfaction anyway, they get it right.
Its just watching these QLs sometimes colors your opinion of a game in a light not necessarily representative of the normal game experience. The Demon's Souls QL for one (Was it Vinny who played that one?), and Jeff's comments throughout it, as well as the Co-Op episode talking about Demon's Souls really put me off to the game. But after actually playing Demon's Souls, I rewatched some of their game footage and it was a very "facepalm", "you're doing it wrong" kind of moment. I was glad I saw the footage, but those two clips definitely didn't do the marketing guys at Atlus/From any favors.
Giantbomb's appeal to me is that they're pretty much the definition of enthusiast gaming press. You can tell they love what they're doing and when something sucks, they call it out. I don't want to be wasting money or time on shitty games and most of the time, enough for my satisfaction anyway, they get it right.
grandjedi6 said:
I've never said that Giant Bomb is a terrible website or that their crew are terrible people or anything of that sort. But any time I've seen them do a Quick Look, they're usually bad at whatever game their playing. So when it comes to them talking about ease of control or difficulty or anything like that, I'm going to ignore their opinion. I merely said that this "colors" their reviews, not invalidates. What's wrong with that?
Maybe some of them are better than others or something, but I'm not keeping track of that. I'm not good remembering names.
randomlyrossy
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_tetsuo_ said:
There's also a difference between playing a game while giving it your full attention and playing a game while also bearing in mind you should be talking about it/to the person next to you and try to be entertaining/interesting. I'm not saying Brad is amazing at all games or something but I'm sure not focusing purely on the game can lead to missing cues and fucking up.
What I find amusing is most of the time during a quick look, whoever is playing the game is playing it for the first time, yet everyone here expects them to be outstanding at playing it, like they need to 100% every level, never get hit, find all secrets, yadda yadda yadda.
Reminds me of some people I've known that get pissed off watching anyone play a video game. "No, you're doing it wrong! Turn to the left! GOD, just turn to the left and kill that guy! Fuck, just hand me the controller!"
Reminds me of some people I've known that get pissed off watching anyone play a video game. "No, you're doing it wrong! Turn to the left! GOD, just turn to the left and kill that guy! Fuck, just hand me the controller!"
templeusox
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If you can do your job as competently as he can, then yes.jett said:Is lacking common sense and perception also inconsequential?
EmCeeGramr
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lol literally everyone in here has said they do not want thatTen-Song said:
there's a slight middle ground between being some crazy pro Metroid speed-runner, and spending an hour getting game overs on 1-1 in Mario
fizzelopeguss
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kylej said:
Ohh do shut up.
Stoney Mason
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That Quick Look on Gyromancer saved me 15 bucks. I generally love PopCap but I can't see why I would play that when Puzzle Quest or Galactrix is around.
Ten-Song said:
Except not.
For god's sake the world isn't black and white. There's a VERY LARGE middle ground between mashing buttons like a stupid monkey and playing a game so good it's almost impossible to tell it's not a TAS.
Hell if the Giant Bomb guys were so good at video games that they 100% every level and never get hit I'd also complain then.
Okay, I watched the God of War video. Who was the other guy with Jeff? He doesn't know a goddamn thing. Jeff was fine, But the other dude kept on bitching about stupid shit. He also did it in the Mario QL too. He needs to do fact checks and do some research. I can't stand these "journalist" and "professionals" who don't know anything. It's obnoxious and just embarrassing.
Stoney Mason
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-PXG- said:
Wtf are you on about?
It was Brad and Ryan in the QL video and they both gave the game tons of praise. And it got 4 out of 5 stars in the review.
Stoney Mason said:
I'm not talking about the lack of praise. That isn't the case at all. In fact, they gave the game tons of praise.
I don't know who it is, but there is ONE guy on Giant Bomb who says shit that is just plain wrong, or complains about things that are petty. He moans and groans about things that no one else seems to really mind. That or he's just trying to find things to complain about for the sake of it. I find that utterly annoying.
grandjedi6
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-PXG--PXG- said:
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I don't think that quick look was very fair. Jeff was being very down on certain parts of the game which he didn't fully understand. Like how he was playing just by checking which moves would give him the most spell points... but that's a help feature which is only active in the beginning parts of the game.Stoney Mason said:
I'm personally still not sure whether to get the game, but that quick look said less than my own 5 minutes play of the trial. I liked Puzzle Quest, and I like Bejeweled Twist (much more so than normal Bejeweled), so I'm rather interested but I'm just not sure if it would be fun in the long run (Puzzle Quest REALLY burned me out).
I wish Vinny and Dave would do more quick looks, they're the best for it in my opinion. They don't take quick conclusions based on very little time with the game, and they seem to be more informative. Jeff and Ryan are probably the more entertaining ones, but not great at actually showing off games.
Brownmonkey
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What complaints did he make that offends you so damn much?-PXG- said:
kylej said:Jeff wasn't in that quick lookIf only people would do some fact-checking before they post. It's obnoxious and just embarrassing.
I knew someone was going to catch that. Good for you. You can use my words against me. I'm not a "professional". I'm just another douche on a fucking forum
If I knew who it was, I wouldn't be asking now would I. If not, I would have found out myself, some way, some how. Honest mistake.Again, this person habitially makes mistakes and just makes an ass of himself from his petty complaints in the QLs. That is what annoys me.
grandjedi6 said:
Oh come on. You guys aren't even trying any more :lol
Stoney Mason
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-PXG- said:
Jeff is generally the harshest on the games even he likes verbally and that can sometimes skew as being negative but his writing generally is more balanced on both the positive and the negative of any game. In that sense he doesn't nerd-gasm over good games and ignore their flaws which is refreshing because most other reviewers do.
Sectus said:
Even discounting that they were a bit down on it, it just didn't have enough to it for it to seem enjoyable to me. It seems like a stripped down Puzzle Quest. Which is fine enough but not something I'm especially looking for.
grandjedi6
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omg -PXG-, just specify what you're complaining about already
I'm guessing you're talking about Brad. I can't remember Ryan being very negative in quick looks.-PXG- said:I knew someone was going to catch that. Good for you. You can use my words against me. I'm not a "professional". I'm just another douche on a fucking forum
Again, this person habitially makes mistakes and just makes an ass of himself from his petty complaints in the QLs. That is what annoys me.
Brownmonkey said:
He said the GoW Collection runs natively in 1080p, when it says, on the fucking box, that it's 720p. He also complained how NSMBWii had checkpoints, when, almost all previous 2D Mario games have had them too. He criticizes stuff that have been in previous games. The only kind of person who would make such complaints, is someone who hasn't played those games, or just haven't done their homework.
He is supposed to be a professional. Shit, he's getting paid to do editorials. He could at least get his facts straight and not be so amatuer as to complain about minor, insignificant things in games. To me, it shows it doesn't know what he's talking about and is just trying to find crap to critize, just to make himself look credible.
Yeah, I probably care waaaaaaaay too much and being hyper critical. I just don't like gaming journalist. It's all a joke and most of these people don't know what the fuck they're doing. I bet there are a lot of people here on GAF, who could do a much better job than most of these people.
I'm ranting and blowing off steam. I'll shut up now
BobJustBob
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slaughterking said:
Oh god, that was so painful. Playing a match-3 game without looking at the board? Ignoring the chain counter? Watching an instant replay and asking "was that a hint movie?"
Zombie James
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-PXG- said:
Have you listened to much 1up Yours/Listen Up? There are a lot of gaming journalists that know less than we do.
kylej said:
What :lol
I know what you're insinuating. I'm a nerd. I need to get a life. I shouldn't be too upset. I'm a loser. Blah blah blah. Yeah, I know. It's just something that annoyed me a little bit. Don't confuse my wall of text for seething rage. Again, just reminds me how shitty gaming journalism is. (insert thisisneogafdude.gif) Don't worry, I'm not Docpan. I'm not going to beat up someone over this :lol
Oh, and I weigh less than 350. And no, don't be a smart ass and ask if I'm 349. :lol
_leech_ said:
Oh shit...
infinityBCRT
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I'm hoping they still get to a quick look of AC2. Would love to hear more impressions. Seems like a lot of podcasts are using the fact that "this is the game that AC1 should have been" as a way to knock it. I don't understand that logic-- they needed to learn the lessons from AC1 to figure out how to make AC2 better. And thats despite the fact that most sites are still giving it a high score. Very strange praise for the game.
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'this is what AC1 should have been' is the highest praise I could possibly give the gameinfinityBCRT said:
Rez said:
agreed. Ive ben playing tons of AC2 recently. And I happen to agree with Ryans review (well, most of the gaming press, actually).
First one got boring so fast but this one has tons of different things to do and nice rewards for doing them. Ive spent lots of time just fixing up my Villa and raking in cash.
Absoludacrous
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-PXG- said:
:lol irony
drakesfortune
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I do not get the Brad hostility. He's easily my favorite Giant Bomber. By a long shot. I mean, I like them all, but Brad is just mellow, more average and balanced, and that's more like me. So I like Brad, he also tends to be into the type of game I'm more into (Uncharted 2, Infamous) so he's great for Giant Bomb. When you can't get Jeff or Ryan to even finish one of the best games of the year (Uncharted 2) and I wonder how they can even like games and not finish that game. It's crazy to me.
I do not get the Brad hostility. He's easily my favorite Giant Bomber. By a long shot. I mean, I like them all, but Brad is just mellow, more average and balanced, and that's more like me. So I like Brad, he also tends to be into the type of game I'm more into (Uncharted 2, Infamous) so he's great for Giant Bomb. When you can't get Jeff or Ryan to even finish one of the best games of the year (Uncharted 2) and I wonder how they can even like games and not finish that game. It's crazy to me.
Haunted
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The Gyromancer quicklook was painful because of how clueless Jeff and Ryan were (that was Ryan helping out, right?). It's not so bad if there's at least someone around who knows what he's doing, but this time, both had no idea wtf was going on.
I really feel they did a disservice to the game with that QL.
edit: Noby Noby Boy is probably one of the few games where that fact actually enhanced the video. :lol
I really feel they did a disservice to the game with that QL.
edit: Noby Noby Boy is probably one of the few games where that fact actually enhanced the video. :lol
I AM JOHN!
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The Gyromancer Quick Look seemed pretty self-explanatory to me and like Jeff knew fully what he was supposed to be doing, just that he was so apathetic to the game that he didn't care. If anything, I'd say that's the bigger disservice - the game looks like it could be a fun timewaster if you could let yourself get into it, but the Quick Look was so colored by their hatred of the game that one can't help but also see nothing but the bad unless they take a step back.
That's really the beauty of these Quick Looks - unless the game is really bad or broken in some way, they do a really good job of staying somewhat neutral towards the game to let you form your own opinions. Here the entire thing was negativity piled upon negativity for a game that didn't look like it really deserved it.
That's really the beauty of these Quick Looks - unless the game is really bad or broken in some way, they do a really good job of staying somewhat neutral towards the game to let you form your own opinions. Here the entire thing was negativity piled upon negativity for a game that didn't look like it really deserved it.
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