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The Halo 3 Beta Thread
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I still think something needs to be done about the Covenant Carbine. It's just a rape-weapon. It has no kickback. It has sick range. It has sick power. And you can shoot it much, much faster than a BR. Headshots put people down in 3 seconds. Most overpowered weapon in the beta, by far, imo.
I agree. They tweaked EVERYTHING that was wrong with the original Carbine. They made the ammo capacity larger. They made it shoot faster. They gave it better range. They made it more powerful. The problem is, they could have only fixed one or two of those things and it would have been great. I say reduce the ammo capacity, slow the rate of fire slightly and shorten the range.JB1981 said:
Shake Appeal
Member
total agreement here, but since none of my friends seem to have noticed I am too busy shredding them and giggling to get really worked up about it yet.JB1981 said:
Son of Godzilla
Banned
I definently noticed the auto-aim yesterday. Made sniping such a pain in the ass, as I'm the kind of guy that waits for people to enter my crosshairs rather than moving them to a person.
And the Carbine is disgusting. Totally overpowered, mentioned it on the last page. I can't think of a single weapon I'd go for instead of the Carbine. It's a beast at any range, incredible rof, and a good sized clip. Oh and can headshot with ease.
And the Carbine is disgusting. Totally overpowered, mentioned it on the last page. I can't think of a single weapon I'd go for instead of the Carbine. It's a beast at any range, incredible rof, and a good sized clip. Oh and can headshot with ease.
Shake Appeal
Member
it is my default weapon at this point
people are like 'why do you use the Carbine so much?'
and I have to stifle a chuckle and mutter 'oh, just personal preference I guess'
people are like 'why do you use the Carbine so much?'
and I have to stifle a chuckle and mutter 'oh, just personal preference I guess'
Bowen_B said:
I was just about to post that I've noticed it a lot more in BTB. I don't know if it's because you notice it more due to the lag, but I'll be walking and my crosshair will start moving towards and following a target.raYne said:
Yeah, it definitely screws you up if you try to fight it when zoomed in.Son of Godzilla said:
Tokubetsu
Member
I missed it earlier (I was travelling) but I'm finally up for some games in the beta with some of you gaf folks:
My only complaint so far is the push to talk bullshit. I understand why they might have done this (cut down on bs chatter) but it's still a pain in the ass and sometimes i forget to hit the button before I talk. I don't think I'll ever get used to it.
My only complaint so far is the push to talk bullshit. I understand why they might have done this (cut down on bs chatter) but it's still a pain in the ass and sometimes i forget to hit the button before I talk. I don't think I'll ever get used to it.
giga said:
I can't decide if I'd rather have a the human sniper back to normal (Halo2 style), or the BR.
I guess I'd rather the halo2 BR, this one is too nerfed, and it makes no sense to tone it down, but tune up the carbine at the same time. Heres hoping the brute rifle rips ass!
Sullichin said:
Who knows? I would point out though, that all of the weapons they've shown so far from the Brute sandbox are closer range, explosives focused weapons, so it doesn't see too likely that a rifle fits with their fighting style, but you never know. I could see something like a shotgun counterpart using spikes or something, but I think a clinical weapon would seem out of place for the Brutes.
I agree with this. If you are tagging someone from close range, it's very powerful and easy to drop them in just a few seconds. However, at anything approaching mid range (where using the scope is required) and I can't hit anyone. You need pin-point accuracy. I use it inside the base in High Ground to tag people just outside and within, but outside of that range and I'm hopeless with it. Definately a skilled weapon at range.Frenck said:
Son of Godzilla
Banned
I can't see a brute rifle being much different than the AR.
I hope they just tune the Carbine down, although I think the biggest problem with H2's BR wasn't actually the BR but the sick auto-aiming.
I hope they just tune the Carbine down, although I think the biggest problem with H2's BR wasn't actually the BR but the sick auto-aiming.
Press start -> move right -> go to voice options and change it to "team and party".Tokubetsu said:
You can now talk normally without using the PTT method.
YES. Flying wall of spikes FTW!Sullichin said:
They could add some flavor to it by dropping the overall damage to 3/4ths or half of the Human Shotgun and let the spike bounce off walls ala the Spiker.
I think we're going to see areas in campaign which are focused on Brutes, and thus Brute weapons.urk said:
In Halo 2, the Carbine, Fuel Rod Gun, Plasma Rifle and Beam Rifle have human counterparts (BR, rocket launcher, SMG and sniper rifle, respectively) because there are long portions of the game were you don't have access to human weapons. Now with the Brutes being a distinct and major threat, there could be scenarios where you are primarily fighting them. Thus the Spike Grenades which replicate the sticky function of Plasmas, the Spiker Rifle which is similar to the SMG. Brute shot is a weaker, more rapid-fire rocket launcher. With Brute vehicles hinted at and more weapons I'd espect to see some weapons fill in the long and mid-range functions.
Sullichin said:
I'm sure Bungie has some nice weapons in store. The more I think about it though, the more I can see a weapon like this eating into the Brute Shot's already limited use. Still, they are lacking a close range weapon with stopping power. The Spikers are good at close range, but a shotgun, they ain't. Halo lore also mentions the Brutes affinity for the crude nature of the human shotgun, so I can see them working up a modified version of sorts to fit into their arsenal.
chase said:
Melee range seems to be toned down, though some think the range varies weapon to weapon. That may be the case.
Don't know what you mean about the AR. It's powered up from Halo 1 days, but you have less ammo. If you are in a laggy game, plenty of the rounds may not be connecting.
That said, I seem to have a good amount of success at close range, though I prefer the SMG to the AR for that type of play.
Also, if you're trying to BXR, you're out of luck. And a dick.
Shake Appeal
Member
bouncing flak around corners etc. would be awesome.raYne said:They could add some flavor to it by dropping the overall damage to 3/4ths or half of the Human Shotgun and let the spike bounce off walls ala the Spiker.
make it happen Bungie.
for the Carbine I would suggest having it take an extra shot or two to kill, and shortening the clip somewhat. the rate of fire and accuracy is what makes it attractive to me.
the beam rifle could also use a slight tweak. ideally the difference betweeen sniper/beam and BR/carbine should be one of preference: they should be as balanced in effectiveness as possible.
The point isn't that it's an "expert weapon," IMO so is the Battle Rifle if you want to use it effectively. And once you're at the point where you'd use the BR, I would go for the Covenant Carbine every single time. It's just more powerful.
I'm starting to like the Spiker Pistols a lot. I even tried noob combing one of them with a plasma pistol and it works great.
I'm starting to like the Spiker Pistols a lot. I even tried noob combing one of them with a plasma pistol and it works great.
goku1693 said:
Needler is powered up for sure. Throw grenades at your opponents feet, or, if they are standing near a wall, try to lob them into the nearby geometry for a bounce. It's also a good tactic to wait until you have two or more players engaging before you reveal yourself by tossing a grenade. If you're about to die, throw one at your own feet and try to snag a kill from beyond the grave.
urk said:
I agree. Finally the needler is an awesome weapon. I used to use it when we would lan Halo2 with buddies just cause it was funny to kill people with two needlers. But now it's actually a powerful weapon and works great with the AR.
Frenck said:
Exactly. I'm horrible with it. The only time I get any kills with it is if I'm enter into a firefight at the "cleanup" point and the other guy is confused or his shield is low already and I just mash away at body shots. I find it near impossible to get a head shot from any distance with that thing. But I'm quite comfortable with the BR. Makes no sense to me.
Carbine is much harder to use IMO.
Mr. Lemming said:
Rameriz plays with default sensitivity. Freakin jedi powers FTW
urk said:
I imagine the confusion that comes after they explode. I imagine most people don't even have a clue how they get killed when they get shot in the back from a needler. And killing from the grave with it is classic. Love it.