GeordieMark
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I'm English and we we're never taught about the worst aspects of colonialism. But I was told WE were the good guys.
Yeah. There is a massive disconnect between reality and what kids are taught about the empire.
I'm English and we we're never taught about the worst aspects of colonialism. But I was told WE were the good guys.
But black history is all about a subway to Canada
8 Successful and Aspiring Black Communities Destroyed by White Neighbors
Atlanta, 1906
Tulsa, 1921
Chicago, 1919
Rosewood, 1923
Washington DC, 1919
Knoxville, 1919
New York City, 1863
St. Louis, 1917
I'm greatly saddened that I didn't know about this stuff and I had taken AP US history in high school and a few American history classes in college. Not even once were these cities talked about
Yeah. There is a massive disconnect between reality and what kids are taught about the empire.
So crazy that the catalyst for most of these stories is black man + white woman= angry white mob8 Successful and Aspiring Black Communities Destroyed by White Neighbors
Atlanta, 1906
Tulsa, 1921
Chicago, 1919
Rosewood, 1923
Washington DC, 1919
Knoxville, 1919
New York City, 1863
St. Louis, 1917
So crazy that the catalyst for most of these stories is black man + white woman= angry white mob
I'm almost surprised that communities like this haven't been referenced by republicans as an example of black people pulling up their 'bootstraps' and doing well for themselves.
That's a.... great idea.
I really think now the time is right for a whole hell of a lot of movies and TV to highlight these hidden histories.
The stories of the racial violence against dozens of black communities in the 20s is absolutely terrifying.
Scholars suggest racist whites became more threatened and thus more brazen in their violence in this period due to black soldiers, having returned from WW1, beginning to take up arms and putting up a fight against white terror.
It's quite eery how consistently passions were inflamed by a story, true or false, of a black man raping a white woman. Dylan Roof was motivated by that same classic racist imagery of the black brute in 2015.
They did make a movie about Rosewood. But yeah, there need to be more.
And I'm not sure half the people who watched Rosewood didn't think it was just "generic movie about Jim Crow".
Black people in Hollywood need to put their money together (or just borrow from Oprah) and make movies on events like these. This is absolutely horrifying stuff, and hell even the perfect tragedy for Oscars.
Regardless of the cynicism in my post above, I think its important that these events get put on film. I had no clue that this happened.
Black people in Hollywood need to put their money together (or just borrow from Oprah) and make movies on events like these. This is absolutely horrifying stuff, and hell even the perfect tragedy for Oscars.
Regardless of the cynicism in my post above, I think its important that these events get put on film. I had no clue that this happened.
So that the history of these events can get buried and ignored by the masses all over again? Sure, there are those that wouldn't turn a blind eye to media that would bring this to light. Many would support it. But lets be honest, most white people would rather burn themselves with hot utensils than have to sit through a couple of hours of expose' on their own ugly history.
As a Tulsan, thank you for sharing this to GAF.
This is a such a dark moment for the city, I still remember reading about this when I was 15 years old in Oklahoma History class and breaking down crying. I just won't understand why races have to hate each other to the point that they will destroy communities because of one crazy rumor.
So that the history of these events can get buried and ignored by the masses all over again? Sure, there are those that wouldn't turn a blind eye to media that would bring this to light. Many would support it. But lets be honest, most white people would rather burn themselves with hot utensils than have to sit through a couple of hours of expose' on their own ugly history. These events do not begin, nor end with those fateful days and nights.
Selma came out one year ago, was well-reviewed, and had Oprah in it, and white people didn't care. We'd even get people saying dumbass shit about BLM bridge blocks and marches like "MLK would've never done that" despite there being this recent mainstream movie about exactly that.Considering how popular hood movies , Tyler Perry films and even 12 years a slave are, why do you think it's unrealistic Black People will pay for these films or that they won't have mainstream appeal. I'd add Spike Lee films to that too.
Yeah but with the recent shitshow over #OscarsSoWhite the time is right to make it really impossible for serious historical period drama of this sort to be overlooked come awards season.
Considering how popular hood movies , Tyler Perry films and even 12 years a slave are, why do you think it's unrealistic Black People will pay for these films or that they won't have mainstream appeal. I'd add Spike Lee films to that too.
12 years a Slave is far more 'tame' subject matter as everyone agrees how terrible slavery was. Comparatively recent events that many desperately want to forget or have been pretty successfully brushed under the carpet are far more astonishing.How many people actually watched 12 Years a Slave? Award season is fluff. It has nothing to do with the masses being educated, or even willing to embrace history or each other.
12 years a Slave is far more 'tame' subject matter as everyone agrees how terrible slavery was. Comparatively recent events that many desperately want to forget or have been pretty successfully brushed under the carpet are far more astonishing.
And I'm not saying that any one movie will suddenly change the mindset of an entire nation. A steady stream of these kinds of movies and the publicity bump that they are much more likely to get now because of a suddenly far more confident and active and vocal set of African American celebrities around awards season would be incredibly effective in continuing to shift the conversation though.
About as effective as campaigning to have this history placed back into our text books with the proper, truthful context.
Sounds ludicrous and damn near impossible doesn't it? Now get a handful of black Hollywood types to do what has been attempted by other black industry folk and allies for decades, and suddenly pull it off.
Shit, even PBS is under fire, under funded, and threatened for their historical and educational content.
I'm not even sure what you're saying honestly. It's all futile and do nothing?
When did you take your Oklahoma History class? I'm assuming it was post 1999 (when the state actually started to mention it)?
In the early/mid-90s when I took the state history class (around 15/16 also), no mention of anything about this. Now with hindsight, I'm pretty angry it was never brought up.
That's what I was always told too but how can we explain the recent rewriting of history regarding the civil war and reasons behind it?The "winners" always write the history. Never forget this, about any subject.
It was 2007 when I was a freshman in high school, I didn't even know they didn't talked about it, we talked about it for at least a week.
That's what I was always told too but how can we explain the recent rewriting of history regarding the civil war and reasons behind it?
They got paid for all the slaves they had to let go and were given land. They won, too.
Yup.Stuff like this is why the "just build your own" refrain is, and always will be, bullshit. You can't make your own anything when there is a group of people who feel like any gains made by others is harmful to them.
I recently retold this tragedy to a few friends. They didn't believe me at first.
That's what I was always told too but how can we explain the recent rewriting of history regarding the civil war and reasons behind it?
Stuff like this is why the "just build your own" refrain is, and always will be, bullshit. You can't make your own anything when there is a group of people who feel like any gains made by others is harmful to them.