Support NeoGAF

[Catphish]

Forza has been the final nail in the coffin.

From this point forward, I just don't see me getting excited about game releases anymore. Every AAA developer is full of shit. Graphical downgrades, dishonest information, predatory mechanics, blah blah fucking blah, and every release is a shit show. I'm over it.

When your game goes on sale for a third of what you sold it for, and everything is patched up to the point where it actually resembles what was promised, I'll buy.

Short of that, get bent. AAA gaming is a lost cause. Fucking burn it.

 

[somesang]

Sweet, I'm early to one of these threads!

 

[Chuck Berry]

Whats the deal with Forza

I thought it "destroys" GT7

 

[Lokaum D+]

Yeah, what happened now ?

 

[Spyxos]

This year in particular, we had an extremely large number of good games.

 

[Catphish]

Whats the deal with Forza

FM Known Issues

These topics are bug issues that have been identified by Forza Support. Vote on topics if you are impacted to help us gauge the number of users affected. Use <a href="https://forums.forza.net/c/troubleshooting/motorsport-thub/fm-new-bugs/265">Report New Issues</a> to create reports on bugs that...

forums.forza.net

 

[Winter John]

Dude, this is exactly how I felt when Metallica released their first ballad. Fuck those sell outs.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Every. Time.

 

[Interfectum]

 

[Dick Jones]

Whats the deal with Forza

 

[Drizzlehell]

You're trippin'

There have been plenty of games this year that were pretty good. Some were even pretty sick.

 

[Danjin44]

Short of that, get bent. AAA gaming is a lost cause. Fucking burn it.

This is year so many good fucking games came out and you guys crying over very few?

Also there is more to gaming than AAA, try out AA games like Armored Core VI and others…..stop obsessing over fucking graphics, you would be much happier.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Dude I was right on the cusp of working a Jerry gif in there. I figured someone would get it

 

[GrayChild]

The hype train ain't going nowhere as long as these guys are still around:

 

[GHG]

What, you don't like paying extra for the exclusive 1 week final beta test?

What, you don't like paying full price for blatantly unfinished products?

 

[Sleepwalker]

Just dont buy microsoft games lol.

This year has been awesome gaming wise for me, one of the best in recent memory.

 

[R6Rider]

TGO disagrees.

 

[Chuck Berry]

What, you don't like paying extra for the exclusive 1 week final beta test?

What, you don't like paying full price for blatantly unfinished products?

If I dont do either of those things I'm not a True Gamer TM

 

[existensmaximum]

Genius

 

[Daneel Elijah]

When I looked at this thread I was afraid that TGO would not do hype trains anymore. Ouf. OP, RE 4 remake DLC Separate Ways is amazing. Play it and be hyped again!

 

[GHG]

If I dont do either of those things I'm not a True Gamer TM

StOp WhInInG aNd JuSt PlAy ThE gAmE!!!1

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[LakeOf9]

Hey, Capcom, FromSoft, Nintendo have been the holy Trinity delivering bangers upon bangers. I’m gonna stay on their hype trains.

 

[Zuzu]

Yep, it’s best not to get too hyped and keep a healthy dose of skepticism regarding extravagant claims made by developers or marketing PR.

Never trust “in-engine” trailers either or gameplay that’s not actually running on the hardware it’s meant to be coming out on (like PC hardware that approximates console hardware). I think that 2022 Forza trailer was said to be running on approximately “Xbox equivalent” PC hardware. Well, we can see how accurate that was…

Still though, Forza’s actual gameplay when racing is really good, but yeah it’s broken and deficient in a lot of other areas.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Not every release can be a sony or nintendo first party console release.
Ever since Firewall Ultra I'm definitely a lot more hesitant towards psvr2 games. Now I just add most to my wish list and see if I want to buy it later on.

 

[Azelover]

I went through this a long time ago. I purchased a japanese launch Dreamcast with Virtua Fighter 3tb, and it came with the Project Berkley CD(a Shenmue reveal).

Needless to say began a strong anticipation for the game. It went through some crazy hoops, and although great, it didn't live up to expectations. Not even close. Seems they are repeating it. But I don't fall for it anymore..

 

[Banjo64]

In most cases, if they talk a lot before release they are shysters. The quality studios are confident in their product and will allow it to do the talking.

 

[keepthemeyesopen]

Forza has been the final nail in the coffin.

From this point forward, I just don't see me getting excited about game releases anymore. Every AAA developer is full of shit. Graphical downgrades, dishonest information, predatory mechanics, blah blah fucking blah, and every release is a shit show. I'm over it.

When your game goes on sale for a third of what you sold it for, and everything is patched up to the point where it actually resembles what was promised, I'll buy.

Short of that, get bent. AAA gaming is a lost cause. Fucking burn it.

B-but...Alan Wake 2 a-a-and FF7 Rebirth....Oh who am I kidding, Square will probably fuck that one up too on the pc.

 

[bitbydeath]

You’re just picking the wrong games to back

 

[Danjin44]

Not every release can be a sony or nintendo first party console release.

honestly most of the fun gamesI highly enjoy this year all came from 3rd party games.

 

[Nankatsu]

Spider-man 2 releases in 10 days OP. Chill.

 

[Loomy]

Never too late to learn this lesson. Do not preorder, do not believe press previews. Wait for the game to come out, wait ~ a week to find out what the game is really like.

 

[Markio128]

I’ll always want a seat on the hype train - I’m ever the hopeless optimist. I’m still looking forward to The Agent.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Very next showcase you’ll be back.

 

[MagiusNecros]

This is year so many good fucking games came out and you guys crying over very few?

Also there is more to gaming than AAA, try out AA games like Armored Core VI and others…..stop obsessing over fucking graphics, you would be much happier.

Yeah I don't get it. This is a good year overall for gaming. Like not a lot interests me but looking at all the games that have released this year there is a lot of great games out there.

And the year isn't over yet.

Most of the games I found more exciting to play is 3rd Party games and indie devs.

 

[A Most Virtuous Cat]

Complete agree with what you said, but the hype train better stay around for GTA 6!

 

[nial]

You shouldn't have expected more from a game literally developed by Microsoft itself (unlike Forza Horizon, which is made by one of its subsidiaries).

 

[dotnotbot]

I never got the hype train thing. Just wait until the release, then wait until the dust settles and read honest opinions. Buy it later at a discount with patches and fixes. You've got literally millions of other games to play in the meantime instead of playing unfinished games day 1.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

honestly most of the fun gamesI highly this year all came from 3rd party games.

You could probably say that any year, but my point was more about the polish of the releases. Spider-man and Mario Wonder will have all kinds of polish, more than something like forza or jedi survivor

 

[MagiusNecros]

I never got the hype train thing. Just wait until the release, then wait until the dust settles and read honest opinions. Buy a game later at a discount with patches and fixes. You've got literally millions of other games to play in the meantime instead of playing unfinished games day 1.

Hype train used to mean something until people started waking up to fake CG trailers that did nothing to tell you about the game and how it will play. Class act of promises and bullshit from a lot of AAA studios. Which leads to broken promises and just leaves you with bullshit.

 

[Fbh]

This year in particular, we had an extremely large number of good games.

Yup, this year has been great.

I understand individual cases being disappointing. For example I was looking forward to Jedi survivor but decided to wait because of the technical issues.
But honestly if after this year people are still saying modern gaming sucks maybe gaming just isn't for them anymore.

 

[systemr123]

Hey, Capcom, FromSoft, Nintendo have been the holy Trinity delivering bangers upon bangers. I’m gonna stay on their hype trains.

Yep, as long as you choose the right train it’s all good.

 

[Danjin44]

You could probably say that any year, but my point was more about the polish of the releases. Spider-man and Mario Wonder will have all kinds of polish, more than something like forza or jedi survivor

Yeah, but this year especially was really good year for 3rd party games.

 

[Crayon]

Try being more selective about what publishers and studios you trust. I was "hope" about starfield, sure. But when it started getting closer, I didn't get all hyped up because I don't put a ton of faith in beth to make a great game. They can do it, but sometimes they can't.

I knew I could put faith in armored core and zelda. Hyped right up till the day of release for two games a year is fine. That left SF6 and Hogwarts to be surprise hits. Getting all hyped up for stuff with patchy histories like assasin's creed or halo is a rookie move.

 

[Danjin44]

Hey, Capcom, FromSoft, Nintendo have been the holy Trinity delivering bangers upon bangers. I’m gonna stay on their hype trains.

You forgetting....

 

[Chuck Berry]

Complete agree with what you said, but the hype train better stay around for GTA 6!

You better temper your expectations on that one more than any other release in years.

 

[GHG]

You better temper your expectations on that one more than any other release in years.

Yeh it wouldn't surprise me if they scrapped the single player and went multiplayer only for that one.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Yeh it wouldn't surprise me if they scrapped the single player and went multiplayer only for that on

Come on G, you know Im not that extreme

It's the writing, humor, and design Im dicey on now that the old guard is long gone.

 

[Draugoth]

Developers realizing they can announce a game 8 years earlier, only to actually start working on it 2 years before release by overworking their employees to release a barely functional game and still see massive profit:

 

[Danjin44]

Never too late to learn this lesson. Do not preorder,

I pr-ordered games like Armored Core VI and upcoming games like Unicorn Overlord with ZERO REGRETS!