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Dreams-Visions
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Sweet.Tobor said:
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I ha the pleasure of handling an iPhone 4 for the first time yesterday. The design is even more awesome than I envisioned. Operation is buttery smooth. I want. That said, while the display is definitely super great, it didn't stand out as much as I thought it would next to a standard screen. Definitely sharper, but I think it'll e one of those things that you'll only appreciate once you've had it for a while an try going back.
Oh, and i tried to deathgrip that thing like crazy and no effect.
Oh, and i tried to deathgrip that thing like crazy and no effect.
Dreams-Visions
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fwiw: in 3 years, I've never scratched iPhone glass. mostly kept without a case of any kind. slid into pockets with change, keys, etc.LaneDS said:
Dreams-Visions said:
Hm, I don't think I'd be as lucky. In my two years of iPhone 3G ownership my screen (or screen protector, really) got pretty scuffed up, as did the case I kept it in. Always sort of bummed me out, because it looks way better without the boring white case i kept on it, but now two years later I can sell a pretty nice looking 3G, so I guess it was worth it.
Still have yet to see the retina display in person and am very excited to see this thing on Friday.
adamsappel
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Your plastic screen protector was scuffed up. I had a screen protector on mine for a year, at the end of which it was hazy and scratched. I threw caution to the wind and took it off. Another year later and no scratches. I also took the Incipio Feather case off the back. As thin as that was, it still feels like a completely different phone.LaneDS said:
Edit: Sorry, meant to hit reply a half-hour ago.
Marty Chinn
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I'm definitely not buying Apple's explaination so far because I can invoke the bars dropping no matter where I am in the South Bay Area when I hold it just in my hand and not even using the death grip. Just naturally resting in the palm of my hand. Now unless the complete South Bay Area is a complete weak signal regardless if I'm indoors or outdoors, then it just doesn't mesh with what they're saying.
Also if its the case that all iPhones have it, how come it seems to be I'm often getting weaker bars than my 3G when they all have the same calculation for reporting bars? It just doesn't mesh with what they're saying.
Another thing, wasn't Mossberg saying in his review that it wasn't reporting signal correctly in the way of showing less bars than what it should have been showing and Apple knew of this problem? That doesn't seem to jive with them overcalculating bars now. Any news on Mossberg's initial problem that Apple acknowledged?
Also if its the case that all iPhones have it, how come it seems to be I'm often getting weaker bars than my 3G when they all have the same calculation for reporting bars? It just doesn't mesh with what they're saying.
Another thing, wasn't Mossberg saying in his review that it wasn't reporting signal correctly in the way of showing less bars than what it should have been showing and Apple knew of this problem? That doesn't seem to jive with them overcalculating bars now. Any news on Mossberg's initial problem that Apple acknowledged?
My 3G screen is scratched like crazy, and there's a tiny crack on the back. Luckily, replacement parts are pretty easy to come by nowadays, and I got a new screen + back for about the price of a Invisible Shield (it helps that I'm in Asia). I'm replacing them so that I can sell it for a better price if/when I get an iPhone 4. I probably won't do the same for the iPhone 4 though--it seems like the screen being melded to the LCD makes it more likely that you'll have to replace the whole display if you want to replace the glass (or make it an extremely difficult task).LaneDS said:
VGChampion
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I never get screen protectors anymore and when my bumper arrives it will be my only case in years.
Last time I had a case was back when the photo iPod just came out and I was super bummed because the little square plastic piece that came with the case actually ended up scratching my screen.
Last time I had a case was back when the photo iPod just came out and I was super bummed because the little square plastic piece that came with the case actually ended up scratching my screen.
Marty Chinn
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elohel said:
I haven't kept a log in every situation, but I do know for a fact that there have been some where I noticed data stopped coming down to which I would look at my bars and notice I didn't have any and then look at my hand and realized the phone was now touching my palm.
Other times, I was just checking signal to see how big of a deal this bar dropping issue was but didn't check speeds or anything like that. It's more like, I'm out shopping or doing something, let me quickly check to see what signal I can get and then check to see if I can drop the bars down by just casually touching it.
I'm just trying to get a feel how much this is an issue where I live and my normal routine.
FoxMcCloudDS
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LaneDS said:
I am going no screen protector this time around, and with a bumper. I have 1 tiny micro scratch in my iphone screen that has absolutely no effect on it. had it for 2 years, and finally upgrading to the 4. Mine hasn't shipped from AT&T yet though. . .
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Mine finally shipped, after ordering on the 30th. With my luck though, with overnight shipping, it'll be there tomorrow at the AT&T store and I won't be able to go pick it up cause I'm stuck here in IL working without a car :l FML man :lol
Dreams-Visions
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yea, I was unconsciously holding my phone and streaming NPR earlier and the phone suddenly stopped playing the podcast and said something about roaming not being enabled (of course meaning that the 3G signal had been lost suddenly).Marty Chinn said:
moved my hand and started the podcast again. fuck.
FoxMcCloudDS
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caliblue15 said:
hey did you ever do the check on your order option? I was wondering if yours says 1 in the row "back ordered" or a 1 in the row "shipped"?
Mine says Back Ordered, but I think it may still just be in process.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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FoxMcCloudDS said:
Before your order ships out, the number 1 in the "back ordered" column will go away, leaving a 1 in the QTY shipped column. Once you notice that, it'll ship out the next day.
FoxMcCloudDS
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Dynamite Ringo Matsuri said:
awesome. thanks. im happy to know it hasn't been touched then. damnit
haha
but I have 30 days to return it for the white iphone 4.. which is what is going to happen.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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FoxMcCloudDS said:awesome. thanks. im happy to know it hasn't been touched then. damnit
haha
but I have 30 days to return it for the white iphone 4.. which is what is going to happen.
Tell me about it, I wanted the white one from the start, it just reminds me of the Dreamcast
Still though, with the stock so low and the demand so high, I'm not sure if I can justify waiting what feels like an eternity for a white one once I return the black one :/
FoxMcCloudDS
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Dynamite Ringo Matsuri said:Tell me about it, I wanted the white one from the start, it just reminds me of the Dreamcast
Still though, with the stock so low and the demand so high, I'm not sure if I can justify waiting what feels like an eternity for a white one once I return the black one :/
I know. it will be hard, only way I will return my black, is if they have a white in stock.
I finally got a chance to play around with this phone today and its really an improvement over my 3G. Just the speed and the camera make me want to upgrade. The screen is nice though it wasn't a big difference.
The antenna issue is a big thing though. I thought it was over blown but just holding in my hand naturally caused it to drop 4 bars. It's not an issue with how I hold it making calls, but it is in portrait mode when using apps or games. I really can't believe this made it to production. I don't know if I can give a company money for creating a product with such a large flaw.
The antenna issue is a big thing though. I thought it was over blown but just holding in my hand naturally caused it to drop 4 bars. It's not an issue with how I hold it making calls, but it is in portrait mode when using apps or games. I really can't believe this made it to production. I don't know if I can give a company money for creating a product with such a large flaw.
Dreams-Visions
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that proximity sensor thing almost fucked me up tonight.
I was talking to my girl and next thing I know I'm nearing weird ringing sounds. I look at my phone and it's clicked so many times it's trying to change the ring tone on one of my contacts! the fuck?
then I go back to the main call window...and a few minutes later, the phone is trying to call some other chick on 3-way!
this fucking phone man. I do think, however, that the proximity sensor issue can be amended via software. but that phone almost put me in a bad situation tonight. unacceptable, friends.
I was talking to my girl and next thing I know I'm nearing weird ringing sounds. I look at my phone and it's clicked so many times it's trying to change the ring tone on one of my contacts! the fuck?
then I go back to the main call window...and a few minutes later, the phone is trying to call some other chick on 3-way!
this fucking phone man. I do think, however, that the proximity sensor issue can be amended via software. but that phone almost put me in a bad situation tonight. unacceptable, friends.
Dreams-Visions
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it was fine for every call up until tonight. probably 20 calls I've made. some long, some short. only this call had a problem.Tobor said:
n this particular call with my chick, it tried to do me in, bro. :lol
Marty Chinn
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Tobor said:
Could be a number of factors. Ambient light, how you hold the phone, how you position the phone next to your head, how the phone strays as you're talking, etc. Somehow it worked right on the 3G but somehow it seems to happen on the iPhone 4 every now and then.
Dreams-Visions
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seems to be my experience. I wish I could say I felt like I was doing anything differently this time. the phone never lost contact with my year, though. beyond that, idk.
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Marty Chinn said:
sounds like you need to exchange your phone if that is the case. the only widespread issue i've heard about is the 'death-grip' thing... if all you need to do to drop the signal is rest it on your palm, we would have heard about it like crazy.
quadriplegicjon said:
not really. go read that anadtech article again. it's almost entirely dependant on the signal strength of the area you're in. if you're at the bottom range of the (very large) 5 bar zone and you hold it normally, you're detuning the antenna to a point where you can potentially lose signal entirely.
Apple's "fix" will show you that - surprise! - a bunch of your 5 bar zones are actually 2 and 3 bar zones.
FoxMcCloudDS
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in all honesty, I used the demo at my att about 3 million times, and if I try, it will make the signal fade. But the thing is, when holding in my "normal" grip. either way, I never cover up the corner. I guess it is a southpaw thing.
Also, that sensor thing is kinda upsetting, but I think it will be fine. I guess when my iphone gets here, it will be known! haha
Also, that sensor thing is kinda upsetting, but I think it will be fine. I guess when my iphone gets here, it will be known! haha
Dreams-Visions
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keep using it. it'll happen sooner or later.Tobor said:
Marty Chinn
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FoxMcCloudDS said:
It's not just a left handed people though. People who are right handed often hold it in their left hand. Heck, you don't need to look past Apple's own promotion videos and pictures to show they hold it the same way. It's not an unusual position.
Marty Chinn
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Dreams-Visions said:
Speaking of which, does anyone know if the iPhone uses the proximity sensor as the light sensor as well? If so maybe the fact that the light sensor doesn't work as well as the 3G is connected to why the proximity sensor doesn't work as well.
Tobor said:
yeah, but that's not gonna happen for a couple reasons (as you may already know).
1. it's easier for companies to fudge the bars to be in their favor.
2. it's easier for customers to understand 5 bars than a range of negative dB readings where they don't know what the baseline is.
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