fredrancour
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I just bought a new gaming PC, but for me it's because I'd accept major compromises on visuals in exchange for portability. I still made my purchase assuming no real supports coming tho
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The lack of new game announcements for the Nintendo Switch.
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I just bought a new gaming PC, but for me it's because I'd accept major compromises on visuals in exchange for portability. I still made my purchase assuming no real supports coming tho
Hero of Legend
Member
Actually it's been said that Darksiders 2 did surprisingly well on Wii U, hence why it's still getting Darksiders 1.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Such a weird decision. They probably don't have a Switch devkit yet, like many other developers, lol.
But yes I agree. If it's a 2018 game they might consider porting the game. They still have time.
But yes I agree. If it's a 2018 game they might consider porting the game. They still have time.
Please stop. ✋
If that's the case, then why even bother with the Wii U version? They could have canceled that a long time ago, but it's still coming. They've also stated a while back that they have two NS games in development. We know about one of them, but what's the other?
Given how many resources AAA publishers plow into production values and spectacle, I just have a hard time imagining that this sentiment is all that common. Heck, many AAA games are so graphically overstuffed that they don't run all that great on PS4/XBO to begin with, right? So I suspect people would end up pretty disappointed with how they turn out on the Switch, which would run the risk of generating negative press for the system. Also, the PSP and PSV didn't find much success with "console experiences on the go" either.
Though I admit my perspective is colored by that fact that I pretty much never play AAA games anymore.
They are not the only games that matter but you can't say that the Switch would be better for getting games like Destiny 2, Star wars Battlefront 2, Call of duty and so on. Maybe they are holding the announcements for some big third party games but history is not kind to Nintendo when they haven't had good third party support since the Gamecube.
I am hopeful for what they announce in E3 and what may be coming in the fall and 2018, it's all up in the air. The good thing is the Switch is selling well and hopefully with some good announcements will keep it up but third parties are very important for a system to supplement the lineup when first party games are not coming out.
I think games being downgraded on the switch wouldn't be a big deal if they were coming because of what the switch is.
Not sure anyone wants to tackle this, but I think it has a lot to do with perceived quality and importance. My game is indie and I doubt many people care about it at all...and that's fine. However, that can't be said for something like Call of Duty or Battlefield. They're considered the cream of the crop in our business and generally where these games go, people follow. Whether or not they're super excellent games is another topic for discussion, but there is a pedigree there and that means a lot.
Hero of Legend
Member
But the devs of Sine Mora EX and Battle Chasers have kits though, why prioritize those over Darksiders 3? Only explanation is 1. the two we're getting are out a lot sooner and/or 2. DS3 is coming anyway so this topic is all meaningless.
But the devs of Sine Mora EX and Battle Chasers have kits though, why prioritize those over Darksiders 3? Only explanation is 1. the two we're getting are out a lot sooner and/or 2. DS3 is coming anyway so this topic is all meaningless.
Ah! Battle Chasers! That's the second game. Unless that's a rather new development....
origamipirate
Member
This is always an interesting take to me because... I feel like most of us that love our Switches know that games would take hits, and look like they're running on "LOW" (or worse) graphics settings- we just don't care. As I get older and have less time in front of my TV, having the chance to get a little time in on Assassin's Creed with less-good graphics (as an example) on my lunch breaks at the office would be vastly preferable to me to having to skip the game altogether because I don't have the time to commit to it.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Game gives me a strong ASA vibe!Oh look a Switch game announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEom_ZoDMhI
https://twitter.com/climaxstudios/status/860076147945734144
(Would anyone like to make a thread? I would if I could)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2VOV6cEBoU
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I think you overestimate how weak it is in comparison, especially when you have last gen systems like the 360 having a incredibly decent version of rise of the tomb raider and the switch shitting on the 360 in basically every area
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I was commenting on the game based on a preview, I don't know what left you with the impression I was ascribing some platform-perception-altering powers to this title.
And apparently not everyone is giving the Switch a wide berth. On the contrary, platform has already established itself as an indie haven. But the high-risk high-budget titles will always be safe-delt by their publishers' upper management, who are responsible to the shareholders for hundreds of millions of cash. That means that switch will get its AAA 3rd-party titles when it shows the necessary body mass. Till then nothing out of the ordinary.
dampflokfreund
Banned
Darksiders 3 skipping Switch is a tragic proof of how the third party support list we got at the January Event cannot be trusted. I adjusted my expectations and expect nothing regarding third party support at E3, you should do so too.
What? No! I'll be celebrating that HL3 announcement at the Treehouse event.
Skittzo0413
Member
How so? THQ Nordic is still bringing other games. I think Codemasters and FROM are the only ones we don't have any definitive announcements from.
Hopefully we'll find out what they're working on sometime soon. Still, it's a good idea to take these lists with a grain of salt. Game development is fluid so anything could change at any given time. Let's just hope that support picks up for the NS in the future.
Dark Cloud
Member
But TQH Nordic is bringing games to the Switch...
Jonneh3003
Banned
slightconfuse
Banned
At least wait for E3 before all doom and gloom. It's been a month
dampflokfreund
Banned
Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. I meant big games that aren't glorified tablet games.
THQ Nordic only has 2 titles in development and both of them are tablet games. It's sad.
I hate when publishers are doing this. Either deliver your big games everyone cares about to the console or just don't be on the third party support list. Its misleading and completely useless.
Is Battle Chasers a tablet game?
I never mentioned sales at all.
LOL nope. It's actually one of their most anticipated titles.
Dark Cloud
Member
I'm going to go off on third party devs soon because the Switch is selling well. There's no reason they can't bring their big friggin games to the Switch. I'll give them a break this year if they want to see the Switch do well, but I need to start hearing announcements.
Everyone says it's easy to develop for and port for. X1 and PS4 are the base so they can bring games to Switch. So I don't want to hear these devs make shit up or I'll believe they have a problem with Nintendo
Oh look a Switch game announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEom_ZoDMhI
https://twitter.com/climaxstudios/status/860076147945734144
(Would anyone like to make a thread? I would if I could)
Looks like something I wouldn't even bother installing if it was included in a humble bundle tbh.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Part of me thinks the likes of EA and Ubisoft look at the Switch as the next Nintendo handheld (which it is, physically speaking) and therefore will probably look to support it as much as they did the 3DS.
Which basically amounts to about 5 titles each for the duration of the system's life.
While it is much easier to port from Xbox One to Switch than from XBONE or 360 to 3DS, I still have a feeling we won't get more that 'token' support.
Japan should be different as we know their view of a Nintendo handheld is much, much different for the most part.
Which basically amounts to about 5 titles each for the duration of the system's life.
While it is much easier to port from Xbox One to Switch than from XBONE or 360 to 3DS, I still have a feeling we won't get more that 'token' support.
Japan should be different as we know their view of a Nintendo handheld is much, much different for the most part.
kitchenmotors
Banned
How can you say nothing has changed when we haven't seen what the future has in store for the Switch?
Skittzo0413
Member
Wait so Darksiders 3 is a UE4 game? Considering Darksiders 2 did well enough on Wii U to bring Darksiders 1 over after the Wii U was dead and buried, it makes no sense that this would be skipping the Switch, especially if it's a UE4 game.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I'm sorry are we listing Street Fighter as like a legit game to get excited about?
It could also be because the games are heavily inspired by Zelda, so the Nintendo releases could also be legacy releases.
Anyway i am pretty sure there will be a Switch version. Because why not seems like it even will take a bit of inspiration from the newest Zelda title going by the IGN hands on preview. And porting to Switch seems to be easy going by dev opinions.
royox
Member
I think it's like cinemas. What cinema will have more customers, one with Star Wars, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Spiderman Homecoming, F&F8 or those cinemas with low budget movies that nobody except hardcores Moviegoers??
(Ok english is not my mother language and that was what google told me to write...was that correct?)
Being "AAA" does not make a game good per se but those games are the most known by the non-neogafposter audience, if you want that audience to buy a console you need those hated AAA games...that or tell old people they can play tennis and bowling at their livingroom.
it'll likely be free on Switch too! once you pay for it, that is
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I don't think people are saying "get excited for it". They're just saying it is releasing for Switch, which is true. Given how even games like Bomberman have sold, it might be possible that SF2 does well enough for Capcom's likely low expectations.
I think if any of the AAA games hit Switch by holiday 2018, it may be fine. Unlike the Wii, the emphasis on Switch is basically traditionally controlled games that you can take on the go. Given that the leap from PS360 -> PS4/XB1 isn't as big as previous generations, it may make things a bit easier (as shown by things like ROTR, Titanfall 1, Destiny 1, etc. hitting PS360), although we'll see how Scorpio affects that (I don't think PS4Pro has done too much there). I've also yet to see any experience on current-gen that couldn't essentially be done on last-gen, albeit with compromised graphics/effects. Whether or not devs will be willing to do that though is another thing.
At this point, I'd mostly pay attention to any new game Koei Tecmo, Square Enix, and Sega announce and see whether they're on Switch. Koei-Tecmo is primarily multi-platform and relies on Japan, and Square Enix seems to understand they're one of the few companies outside of Nintendo that can keep dedicated hardware relevant in their home country. Sega's been rewarded by good sales of Puyo Puyo Tetris on Switch, so at the very least I would imagine that franchise and other similar ones continuing alongside Sonic.
ViolentP
Member
PS+ doesn't give away games for free.
Depends what "deeply flawed and compromised" means.
If its a WiiU like situation where companies are leaving out essential features thats a hard pass.
If its a simple resolution bump (even if its 540p or 480p even 360p in portable mode) I personally wouldnt care, and its likely a good portion of Rainbow six siege's 10M registered players wouldn't care either since that game runs at 540p on PS4
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I still just wish all 3 major console players gave us a better look forward at their downloadable stuff for say the whole month or couple of months.
I hate this random fucking guessing game on what's coming in terms of downloads only to be told like the day of in the Nintendo press release or the week of on the PS Blog.
Give me a road map for the month so I can better​ plan out my purchases.
I hate this random fucking guessing game on what's coming in terms of downloads only to be told like the day of in the Nintendo press release or the week of on the PS Blog.
Give me a road map for the month so I can better​ plan out my purchases.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
no, I think you overestimate. There would be noticeable compromises, but nothing at all like what we've seen in previous gen conversions to portable hardware.
Lord of Ostia
Member
You clearly don't know what Battlechasers or Sine Mora are if you are calling them "glorified tablet games"
Skittzo0413
Member
Porting a UE4 game to Switch is even easier. Snake Pass was ported in a week. As someone who's used UE4 for very, very small projects, I believe it literally is as simple as pressing a button, and then going through the entire game to optimize performance and check for errors.
I have been thinking about this a bit for the past few days, why the Nintendo system does not sell many 3rd party western games. Many people like to blame Nintendo's gamers, but I don't think this is right. I think the true problem lies in advertising. People don't buy games they don't know about.
I have not lived in the US for many years, but I certainly recall seeing commercials for games on Xbox and Playstation, usually the ending screen would show the platform it was being advertised for, sometimes it would show only one or two platforms, even know there were three consoles on market.
So I went to Youtube to watch some commercials for Darksiders, Madden, Assassins Creed 3, etc. You know what they all had in common, none of them advertised the Wii U version of the game. The Wii U commercials I could find were always of exclusives for Wii U, Lego games, Nintendo games, and Nintendo published games. The developers are releasing games without advertising. Does any one know why they would do this? Can anyone find commercials advertising these games, because I couldn't.
Hero of Legend
Member
Skittzo0413
Member
Be a hero and start knocking on publishers' doors, do it for Switch GAF!
I would if I knew anyone in the industry!
Just to clarify, those are just small hobby projects I've worked on alone and will never see the light of day beyond a few youtube demos.
And even if it is that easy to actually port (which it may very well be) I understand that there are plenty of other barriers to getting a game on a platform, probably the biggest of which for most AAA developers is complying with Nintendo's eshop and online platform. And compressing assets so that they don't have to pay for 64gb game cards.
Nostremitus
Member
Having a Switch, PS4 Pro, and a gaming PC... I'd honestly prefer to buy most of my AAA games on Switch if they came to it.
If Cod WWII comes out on Switch I'll buy it day one to have a decent portable FPS. Graphical settings and resolution downgrades and all. I'm not going to buy it otherwise until there's a deep discount sale on the PC version.
My PS4 Pro is for exclusives or games that get absolutely broken PC ports.
If I'm going to be shackled to a stationary device to play, I'll buy for PC 90% of the time.
My switch is for portable games that I can also play at home.... And this is something I'd choose over shinier graphics most often.
What good are those extra settings doing me if I'm not at home to see them? With Switch, it feels like I'm actually getting to play games again since I can pull it out and play whenever a have a few minutes.
If Cod WWII comes out on Switch I'll buy it day one to have a decent portable FPS. Graphical settings and resolution downgrades and all. I'm not going to buy it otherwise until there's a deep discount sale on the PC version.
My PS4 Pro is for exclusives or games that get absolutely broken PC ports.
If I'm going to be shackled to a stationary device to play, I'll buy for PC 90% of the time.
My switch is for portable games that I can also play at home.... And this is something I'd choose over shinier graphics most often.
What good are those extra settings doing me if I'm not at home to see them? With Switch, it feels like I'm actually getting to play games again since I can pull it out and play whenever a have a few minutes.
ghostwritingduck
Member
Where's the excitement for Bittrip Runner 3? I love that series.
Interfectum
Member
Pretty much my exact thoughts and system setup. I'll gladly take a lesser version on Switch due to the versatility of the system.
I really hope E3 brings us some AAA surprises.
There are big AAA solo games, that people probably play for the spectacle, like naughty dogs games, and there are games based on competition and multi. Those later games would benefit from a local multi on Switch i think. Overwatch etc..
Those games have community of players. Friends playing the game would love to be able to play it physically in the same place (or outside!), which is not possible right now except maybe in some foggy lan pubs i guess.
Those games have community of players. Friends playing the game would love to be able to play it physically in the same place (or outside!), which is not possible right now except maybe in some foggy lan pubs i guess.