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[AzaK]

I'm personally somebody who doesn't mind waiting 3 years between sequels. I hope the games don't suffer for it.

Same. This is why Nintendo's franchises do so well over many years. Waiting 3-5 years between followups is perfect.

 

[IonicSnake]

Haven't read the whole thread but has Naughty Dog or Sony told us if this was realtime? I'm betting money it was far, far from it.

https://twitter.com/#!/Naughty_Dog/status/145786692719230976

 

[NeoUltima]

Haven't read the whole thread but has Naughty Dog or Sony told us if this was realtime? I'm betting money it was far, far from it.

In-engine, captured from Ps3.

So same as Uncharted cutscenes basically.

edit: beated

 

[Squire]

The worst part is that he's always been only a voice actor. The best VAs are usually the ones with experiences outside of dubbing. You know, real actors, like the ones from Uncharted.

Yeah, seriously. People give NN a had time for being in damn near everything, but the fact is: NN is a damn good actor. Think how often we don't know it's him doing a voice until after the fact? Troy gets cast in a lot of stuff, too. Not NN numbers, but quite a bit. The difference is you can hear Troy coming from a mile away. Tales are always mentioning him because he's Yuri, which is almost enough to make me think the modern JRPG fan is also tone-def. His voices are extremely same-y. Kinda like Steve Blum, except... not good. He sounds very bland/soap-opera like.

 

[Hyuga]

THIS , the idea that we can get a ND title every year would be so fucking awesome.
If things work out at 2 years for a game .
Man ND having 2 teams made waiting for next gen even harder.

Actually, I think we will get 2 Naughty Dog games in 3 years.
THE LAST OF US + Uncharted 3 = 3 years

The girl having here ovulation cycle may be too mature for some but I think being used once through the game and finding a convenience store to get tampons would be cool if used correctly and once during the game since there may be a day and night cycle.

 

[FromTheFuture]

Of course, but I feel like since Joel doesn't resemble him AT ALL, maybe he's a placeholder? Ash tweeted that she's doing both after someone asked and maybe this is just a case of Troy not having that same opportunity; maybe no ones asked him and he is, but I don't know. I REALLY don't think Troy can hold a candle to anybody cast in Uncharted. I trust ND's judgement, but him? I'd never guess.

But resemblance has nothing to do with the way Naughty Dog does their capture, so why would that matter? If they already pride themselves on doing it their tried and true mocap and voice at the same time, I don't see why they would turn around on it.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Of course, but I feel like since Joel doesn't resemble him AT ALL, maybe he's a placeholder? Ash tweeted that she's doing both after someone asked and maybe this is just a case of Troy not having that same opportunity; maybe no ones asked him and he is, but I don't know. I REALLY don't think Troy can hold a candle to anybody cast in Uncharted. I trust ND's judgement, but him? I'd never guess.

He sounded perfectly fine in the trailer. I haven't really seen anyone complain about it in this thread. Do you really think that ND would hire someone that wouldn't be up for the job? Their track record with voice actors is top notch.

I also thought that Troy did a great job as Vincent in Catherine.

 

[KingofSarus]

I finally saw the trailer for this game.
Absolutely beautiful. Instant purchase.

Man, I love the PlayStation 3 (and Naughty Dog) so much.

 

[Galdelico]

In-engine, captured from Ps3.

So same as Uncharted cutscenes basically.

edit: beated

That's impressive then (although some of Uncharted cutscenes remain FMVs).

 

[ProfessorMoran]

Actually, I think we will get 2 Naughty Dog games in 3 years.
THE LAST OF US + Uncharted 3 = 3 years

They have another team working on this game.

 

[Raitosaito]

I'm surprise everyone is nitpicking voice actors.

I rather play my game oblivious to who they are since it makes the immersion that much better.

 

[UnluckyKate]

Op doesn't tell: confirmation of Ellen Page as model/inspiration/voice ?

 

[Squire]

But resemblance has nothing to do with the way Naughty Dog does their capture, so why would that matter? If they already pride themselves on doing it their tried and true mocap and voice at the same time, I don't see why they would turn around on it.

All the Uncharted actors resemble their characters. I don't think ND will abandon performance capture at all. That's why I think maybe Troy is placeholder. If he's locked in and Jodl just happens to not resemble him that's fine. Though as stated before, I really can't see them casting him; he's a generic anime actor.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Op doesn't tell: confirmation of Ellen Page as model/inspiration/voice ?

Ashley Johnson is doing her voice and motion capture. That's all we know.

 

[Squire]

He sounded perfectly fine in the trailer. I haven't really seen anyone complain about it in this thread. Do you really think that ND would hire someone that wouldn't be up for the job? Their track record with voice actors is top notch.

I also thought that Troy did a great job as Vincent in Catherine.

Good points. I do trust their judgement and he does sound fine in the trailer. And I only played the Catherine demo, but I thought what I heard was good. Snow, Yuri and all his anime characters stick in my mind as pretty bad. What I've heard of him in BioShock: Infinite also doesn't sound too hot.

But he's not all bad, you're right. And again: I trust ND's judgement. Really hope Amy's writing this.

 

[Luthos]

All the Uncharted actors resemble their characters. I don't think ND will abandon performance capture at all. That's why I think maybe Troy is placeholder. If he's locked in and Jodl just happens to not resemble him that's fine. Though as stated before, I really can't see them casting him; he's a generic anime actor.

But this isn't Uncharted, so they might not be basing the characters off the VA.

Besides, the girl's voice isn't Ellen Page, and that's clearly who she looks like.

 

[Sickboy007]

These people didn't go to acting school to become voice actors, it just happened this way for some of them and they have to make a living somehow, Michael Bell basically did a TON of voice acting, I doubt people would question his performance as Raziel, same with Simon Templeman who did Kain, Robin Atkin Downes who did Tenzin and Talbot is basically a career voice actor.

Obviously this guy has had some shitty scripts like having to play Snow in FFXIII, but then he got the lead in Bioshock Infinite, so he can't be THAT bad.

I wonder if ND is working with Gordon Hunt on this game.

Just looking at their IMDBs, all those actors you mention have extensive careers outside of dubbing (apart from Talbot, i don't know who he is). And being a career voice actor doesn't mean you are not an actor first. I have nothing against Baker and i'm aware that it's nitpicking, but it's surprising ND gave their main role to someone without a significant acting background, especially considering their mocap process, which is widely cited as being the reason behind their believable cutscenes.

edit: Robin Atkin Downes is also a trained actor.

 

[StoppedInTracks]

Her partially shaved eyebrow gives her so much personality.

I like it, Naughty Dog.

It's not shaved, it's a scar leftover.

 

[FoxSpirit]

Notice the gas mask on the guy? Cordyceps... that shit is in the air!

FUCK Cordyceps... especially since I have just been thinking about it thanks to the fungi theme.

Also, Ellen Page with freckles and red hair? Super cute.

 

[Squire]

But this isn't Uncharted, so they might not be basing the characters off the VA.

Besides, the girl's voice isn't Ellen Page, and that's clearly who she looks like.

She resembles her actress though; particularly in her teenage years. I'm not saying it's be-all-end-all, but why break the trend? And they could be doing that! I'm just saying given the history, it's weird.

 

[Hyuga]

They have another team working on this game.

Dude.... I know

Still: Two teams startet their work after U2.
Team 1: 2 years -> Uncharted 3
Team 2: ~ 3 years -> THE LAST OF US

 

[AzaK]

https://twitter.com/#!/Naughty_Dog/status/145786692719230976

Thanks for that, but it still doesn't confirm that it's realtime (30 or 60fps) only that it is rendered on the PS3 which I believe. KillZone flashbacks have my cynicism levels skyrocketing.

 

[Hyuga]

FUCK Cordyceps... especially since I have just been thinking about it thanks to the fungi theme.

Also, Ellen Page with freckles and red hair? Super cute.

Yep, they (Naughty Dog) are really REALLY good with their female characters
First Elena <3
...and now the cute Ellie =)

 

[IonicSnake]

Thanks for that, but it still doesn't confirm that it's realtime (30 or 60fps) only that it is rendered on the PS3 which I believe. KillZone flashbacks have my cynicism levels skyrocketing.

Well I think we can assume it won't be running at 60fps. It will probably look similar to that in-game but with more aliasing.

 

[Danielsan]

Thanks for that, but it still doesn't confirm that it's realtime (30 or 60fps) only that it is rendered on the PS3 which I believe. KillZone flashbacks have my cynicism levels skyrocketing.

It's the same as with Uncharted. The cut scenes are pre-rendered videos using the game engine and additional effects as well as some higher quality assets here and there. For the most part the actual game part will look near identical. The game itself will run at 30fps locked.

 

[Chuck Norris]

Thanks for that, but it still doesn't confirm that it's realtime (30 or 60fps) only that it is rendered on the PS3 which I believe. KillZone flashbacks have my cynicism levels skyrocketing.

Uh huh. This looks nowhere near KZ2 CGI

 

[Globox_82]

Dude.... I know

Still: Two teams startet their work after U2.
Team 1: 2 years -> Uncharted 3
Team 2: ~ 3 years -> THE LAST OF US

First game in a franchise always takes a bit of extra time. Or maybe if it is open world it needs extra time for polish.
Lol at people that think this is just Uncharted (linear with venom they say) with another skin.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Thanks for that, but it still doesn't confirm that it's realtime (30 or 60fps) only that it is rendered on the PS3 which I believe. KillZone flashbacks have my cynicism levels skyrocketing.

Look, nothing personal, but eafter seeing tons of similar posts on the subject I had to write something out.
Let's start with Killzone... Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 are astounding in graphical quality. Sure, the first trailer was CG and set-up maybe unrealistic expectations from some, but I do not think you can play KZ2 and KZ3 on your PS3 and honestly say that they look average or even "just good"".

About Naughty Dog. ND has constantly delivered mindblowing games from a technical/presentation point of view (I'd say that the gameplay in their games in awesome too, but that's not the point here), since their PS1 days. Crash Bandicoot series, Jak & Daxter series, Uncharted series... we can count more than 10 games each better than the one that came before it (technically).

 

[SentientStone]

Thanks for that, but it still doesn't confirm that it's realtime (30 or 60fps) only that it is rendered on the PS3 which I believe. KillZone flashbacks have my cynicism levels skyrocketing.

Honestly this game looks on par with Uncharted 2 and 3 to me and nothing more. I didn't see anything that graphically breathtaking in the trailer. The first Killzone 2 trailer was something else, hopefully the PS4 Killzone will surpass it someday.

 

[monome]

I love how those charactes could jump into Uncharted and not look out of place.

It seems Last of Us really is its own thing but the Naughty Dog's lineage is evident while not disrupting my perception of it being different.

My biggest grip with uncharted 3 is how I felt the direction of the game was lost in the shiffle between the shooting segments and the exploration segments.

i hope this new universe gets a consistent gameplay to keep me fully immersed.

EDIT : I loved Enslaved and felt the game accomplished something even though it was an Uncharted rip-off.

This + Rising have made me a happy late 2012 gamer. Halo 4 and hopefully Bioshock too and something COD (SP only). 2012 is gonna be good.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Honestly this game looks on par with Uncharted 2 and 3 to me and nothing more. I didn't see anything that graphically breathtaking in the trailer.

To each his/her own I guess. Some of the 3D modelling, rigging, and animation in the indoors section as well as the first peek outside were quite awesome indeed. The game has quite a bit of time before it comes out too. Still, PS3 like every HW can only be pushed so far. I think the next ND games will be PS4 oriented, how long can you restrain this kind of talent when they probably have PS4 SDK's next to them already ?

 

[AzaK]

Honestly this game looks on par with Uncharted 2 and 3 to me and nothing more. I didn't see anything that graphically breathtaking in the trailer. The first Killzone 2 trailer was something else, hopefully the PS4 Killzone will surpass it someday.

Look, nothing personal, but even with Killzone... Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 are astounding in graphical quality. Sure, the first trailer was CG and set-up maybe unrealistic expectations from some, but I do not think you can play KZ2 and KZ3 on your PS3 and say that they look average or even just "good".

ND has constantly delivered mindblowing games from a technical/presentation point of view (I'd say that the gameplay in their games in awesome too, but that's not the point here), since their PS1 days. Crash Bandicoot series, Jak & Daxter series, Uncharted series... we can count more than 10 games each better than the one that came before it (technically).

Uh huh. This looks nowhere near KZ2 CGI

It's the same as with Uncharted. The cut scenes are pre-rendered videos using the game engine and additional effects as well as some higher quality assets here and there. For the most part the actual game part will look near identical. The game itself will run at 30fps locked.

I'll answer all the replies at once. I have not played UC (unfortunately) but from what I've seen of video it doesn't look anything like TLoU. TLoU had such amazing lighting, and if the game itself can hit this level, even at 30fps, to me that's absolutely stunning.

 

[Chuck Norris]

I'll answer all the replies at once. I have not played UC (unfortunately) but from what I've seen of video it doesn't look anything like TLoU. TLoU had such amazing lighting, and if the game itself can hit this level, even at 30fps, to me that's absolutely stunning.

There's your problem

This is very visibly on the same engine as Uncharted 3, though with upgrades as you'd expect and a more realistic style

 

[Hyuga]

First game in a franchise always takes a bit of extra time. Or maybe if it is open world it needs extra time for polish.

Yep! Maybe they needed more time (+1 year), because their team wasn't big enough, so they had to hire some talent/employees.

Lol at people that think this is just Uncharted (linear with venom they say) with another skin.

lol indeed! Some people are desperately seeking crap, just to have something to bitch about. It's hilarious.
It's the same story all the time:
Phase 1: SCE announces a new game
Phase 2: People get hyped (fact: SCE's internal studios are awesome. So you can easily get hyped).
Phase 3: Different "group" gets pissed, because they other "group" has a new game, which they like and hype.
Phase: 4: The trolling/flaming has started.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

Don´t know if it has been mentioned yet, but these infected people look a lot like what happend to this guy (NSWF?).

On Topic: Game looks ace!

 

[Dibbs]

That's the worst part of the whole reveal. I can't get myself exited about a game with anything zombie-like in it, sorry ND.

That's what I was trying to explain earlier in this thread. For that, I was mocked by ND fanboys. /cry

Zombies are a huge turn off.

 

[brobban]

Don´t know if it has been mentioned yet, but these infected people look a lot like what happend to this guy (NSWF?).

On Topic: Game looks ace!

This was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the trailer!!

 

[Chuck Norris]

That's what I was trying to explain earlier in this thread. For that, I was mocked by ND fanboys. /cry

Zombies are a huge turn off.

They are about as much zombies as headcrabs are to Half Life 2

 

[AkIRA_22]

I have to say the fucking game looks amazing... but it's not why I am here. The GIFs have been on song people.

 

[darkwing]

Don´t know if it has been mentioned yet, but these infected people look a lot like what happend to this guy (NSWF?).

On Topic: Game looks ace!

this is from a virus, codyceps is a fungus which certainly can kill you if it jumps specie

 

[Paertan]

There will come a day when I grow tired of zombies*. But it is not this day. Today I get hyped!

*Yeah I know they are not really zombies.

 

[Squire]

Don´t know if it has been mentioned yet, but these infected people look a lot like what happend to this guy (NSWF?).

On Topic: Game looks ace!

Seeing the comments in this thread... I'm not clicking any links to pics.

 

[Zen]

Seeing the comments in this thread... I'm not clicking any links to pics.

It's not actually bad at all.

 

[Chuck Norris]

Mark Richard Davies @Ninjafr4me 4 hrs Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hmm reading the hate about yourself on NeoGaf is a tad depressing. Oh well - the game is going to be awesome

You guys are asses

 

[darkwing]

Mark Richard Davies @Ninjafr4me 4 hrs Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hmm reading the hate about yourself on NeoGaf is a tad depressing. Oh well - the game is going to be awesome

You guys are asses

this is neogaf :|

 

[Wandering Leopard]

They are about as much zombies as headcrabs are to Half Life 2

I think they're definitely 'zombie like' but we need more information about them to be honest, like;

Can they see, how exactly do they detect you.
Do they have some kind of intelligence, because from the trailer only one seemed interested in the body on the floor whilst the other two ran off so it seems they won't be brain dead at the very least.
What happens if they bite you, maybe you can only get infected through spores and they only want to kill you.
Can they be cured.

 

[Luthos]

Mark Richard Davies @Ninjafr4me 4 hrs Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hmm reading the hate about yourself on NeoGaf is a tad depressing. Oh well - the game is going to be awesome

You guys are asses

Is that the Enslaved guy that's coming to work on LoU?

Because that sucks that stupidGAF is getting him down. I thought Enslaved was awesome, and the fact that he's working on this game actually got me more excited (along with ND making it, obviously)

 

[Raitosaito]

Mark Richard Davies @Ninjafr4me 4 hrs Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Hmm reading the hate about yourself on NeoGaf is a tad depressing. Oh well - the game is going to be awesome

You guys are asses

GAF hivemind has ruin many.

 

[Chuck Norris]

I think they're definitely 'zombie like' but we need more information about them to be honest, like;

Can they see, how exactly do they detect you.
Do they have some kind of intelligence, because from the trailer only one seemed interested in the body on the floor whilst the other two ran off so it seems they won't be brain dead at the very least.
What happens if they bite you, maybe you can only get infected through spores and they only want to kill you.
Can they be cured.

Well for one, they can feel pain (being stabbed) which zombies don't.

It was clear they reacted to the sound of the gun cocking, and the character Joel tried to do it as quietly as possible

I seriously doubt they can see with no eyes. But their mutations may not all be the same

 

[Paertan]

Is that the Enslaved guy that's coming to work on LoU?

Because that sucks that stupidGAF is getting him down. I thought Enslaved was awesome, and the fact that he's working on this game actually got me more excited (along with ND making it, obviously)

I do too. Loved that game especially the design of the world. I put it on the site I write for as a tip for what to wish for this christmas.