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The Last-Stop-Speak-In-Hyperbole Official Revolution Specs Thread
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SantaCruZer said:
There it is!
Broadway:
-under 2GHz
-90nm MPU fabrication process
-under 10watts
-does NES, SNES & N64 emulation on it's own (saves on power in emulation mode)
-upgrades NES, SNES & N64 ROM's
-lots of embedded cache (8MB?)
-performance improved by easier single-thread developement, existing GCN API, the added PPU & well-balanced speed/power for top-notch 480p visuals
Hollywood:
-about 500Mhz
-manufactured by NEC in GCN's fabrication plants
-about 25watts
-latest dolby, direct X and shader capabilities
-Revolution exclussive feature effects like "cube-mapping"
-lot's of embedded cache (4MB?)
-performance equal to competing hardware while running full effects, AA, 60fps @ 480p
PPU:
-offsets heat by doing alot of the # crunching for Broadway
-physics calculation handled for 3D spacial movement in each player's interface
-free's up Broadway to handle more AI, gameplay engines & overall system performance
Main Memory:
-128MB 1T-SRAM
-split into 32MB "chunks" to offset heat
-very low latency, very fast...creating no memory speed bottlenecks
-no slower secondary memory in the system
Disc Drive:
-over 8GB capacity discs based on DVD-ROM
-very slim, slot-loading drive for taking GCN, Revolution & DVD discs
-4X speed, direct streaming to system memory for low load times
Built-in Flash Memory:
-for game saves, settings & storing downloadable ROM's
-in emulation mode, can be used as "scratch pad" storage to save on power
-expandable through SD card slot
Overall performance will be that of the other systems *running on SDTV* resolutions. Since less "power" is required for good SDTV visuals, hardware (and software) development costs are but a ~fraction~ of competing next-generation systems/games running at HDTV resolutions.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
marsomega said:
Good question. Hopefully its sooner rather than later. I hope he doesn't make us east coast folks wait up all night.
MadOdorMachine
No additional functions
It's okay. It would be badass with depth though (yeah 3D again). Notice, the player keeps missing the enemy because he doesn't know when to swing. He doesn't know if the enemy is within sword striking distance. Either way aside from FPS's I hope Rev gets a good amount of lightgun games, racers and classic 2D style games.Salmon said:
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Ultra Magnanimous said:
Yeah, thats total. Including the dvd drive, harddrive, CPU, GPU. I'm speaking on processors specifically.
Frankfurter
Member
11 pages and we still don't know anything? Not bad 
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
OG_Original Gamer said:
My buddy actually measured the draw with his high faluntin' geeko equipment and 160W is more like when the machine is just running the dashboard. When games get going, it's at least 50% more.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
hadareud said:
True, thats why it would have less cores, clocked lower. Well it wouldn't neccessarily melt.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Oh boy, the anticipation!
I wonder what developers he's going to talk to though.
I wonder what developers he's going to talk to though.
soundwave05
Member
DrGAKMAN said:
There it is!
Broadway:
-under 2GHz
-90nm MPU fabrication process
-under 10watts
-does NES, SNES & N64 emulation on it's own (saves on power in emulation mode)
-upgrades NES, SNES & N64 ROM's
-lots of embedded cache (8MB?)
-performance improved by easier single-thread developement, existing GCN API, the added PPU & well-balanced speed/power for top-notch 480p visuals
Hollywood:
-about 500Mhz
-manufactured by NEC in GCN's fabrication plants
-about 25watts
-latest dolby, direct X and shader capabilities
-Revolution exclussive feature effects like "cube-mapping"
-lot's of embedded cache (4MB?)
-performance equal to competing hardware while running full effects, AA, 60fps @ 480p
PPU:
-offsets heat by doing alot of the # crunching for Broadway
-physics calculation handled for 3D spacial movement in each player's interface
-free's up Broadway to handle more AI, gameplay engines & overall system performance
Main Memory:
-128MB 1T-SRAM
-split into 32MB "chunks" to offset heat
-very low latency, very fast...creating no memory speed bottlenecks
-no slower secondary memory in the system
Disc Drive:
-over 8GB capacity discs based on DVD-ROM
-very slim, slot-loading drive for taking GCN, Revolution & DVD discs
-4X speed, direct streaming to system memory for low load times
Built-in Flash Memory:
-for game saves, settings & storing downloadable ROM's
-in emulation mode, can be used as "scratch pad" storage to save on power
-expandable through SD card slot
Overall performance will be that of the other systems *running on SDTV* resolutions. Since less "power" is required for good SDTV visuals, hardware (and software) development costs are but a ~fraction~ of competing next-generation systems/games running at HDTV resolutions.
I'm think more like
1.2 GHz IBM Broadway CPU
400 MHz ATi Hollywood GPU
GCN memory structure + an additional 64MB 1T-SRAM (104MB RAM total)
System will ship with a camera system (Manebito/Ningen camera) and/or will launch at a very low price point.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Shogmaster said:
DAMN!
tehrik-e-insaaf
Member
>>>I am pretty embarassed. I paid 50 dollars more, was made to look like an idiot, and now am going to get banned for possibly the most retarded argument of all time.
Well it was a hot item during the holiday season. Lot's of stores were gouging. I bought mine 4 days before launch at Incredible Universe for 199... A month later when I went to Toys R Us the unit was being sold for 249...
And the perception that it launched at 249 apparently exists in many circles... You aren't the first one to believe so...
Well it was a hot item during the holiday season. Lot's of stores were gouging. I bought mine 4 days before launch at Incredible Universe for 199... A month later when I went to Toys R Us the unit was being sold for 249...
And the perception that it launched at 249 apparently exists in many circles... You aren't the first one to believe so...
OG_Original Gamer
Member
hadareud said:
Well for one it has low power consumption of only 20-28 watts. It will aswell take some load off of the CPU for handling physics and possibly animation.
Since the chances of the Rev having a single core processor are very high.
marsomega said:
That's not the right way off looking at it. Nintendo paid the same amount as MS for designing the GPU. However that does not mean the manufacturing cost is the same. MS may have said "here's $350M, design us a nice GPU for $150 each to be released 2005." Nintendo may have said "here's $350M, design us a nice GPU for $100 each to be released 2006 or they may have said "here's $350M, design us a nice GPU for $30 each to be released 2006." The point being, the design costs were to cram as much into the budget. Either way, the Rev GPU should be designed just as well as the xGPU, even though it may be a lot less powerful.
Speaking of physics, there goes the thought Revolution will be capable of advanced physics. This is the area I want to see the greatest jump next gen and Revolution just won't be able to keep up. But I get a magic wand!
Has there ever been a time a console comes out one year after another and much less powerful?
Has there ever been a time a console comes out one year after another and much less powerful?
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Mrbob said:
Well, it turn out to be a dual core processor. This is one rumor Matt hasn't addressed, AFAIK.
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
Scotch said:
C- for inteligence, A+ for entertainment value! :lol
Amir0x said:
At the same token, you might as well shelve the idea of seeing a ton of ports on Revolution if you are a Nintendo fan. With PS3 and X360 both having 512 Megs of ram assets will be able to be shared between the two systems, and even the PC if developers want. They won't be able to do the same thing with Revolution, so it may actually cost them more to make a Revolution game than to disperse costs between two to three platforms. But this is probably what Nintendo wants. They better deliver the goods on their own because I don't expect 3rd party developers to do so.
Mrbob said:
You're thinking of a PPU in the high-end PC gaming sort of way. I'm thinking more of a helper co-processor that will handle physics...especially the physics of calculating the 3D space in which each players' controller interface is being moved/handled/manipulated durring gameplay. The X-BOX 360 has 3 cores and the PS3 has 7 co-processors (one or two of which will probably act as PPU's in some games) and yet you can't envision any sort of co-processor for Revolution? I agree, it might not happen...but not 'cos it can't!
soundwave05
Member
Cosmozone said:I can't stay awake long enough for the (preliminary) specs to arrive, alas. :-( Call me weak.
Here's something for the rest of the wait:
:lol :lol :lol
SolidSnakex
Member
Amir0x said:
Well...atleast we'll get a new Mario (that'll hopefully be much better than SUnshine).
soundwave05
Member
SolidSnakex said:
And the Revolution looks really sexy asthetically. And online play. And hopefully a new Punch-Out! as well. And some Namco lightgun shooters.
SolidSnakex said:
I loved Sunshine, so f u!
But of course, Nintendo platforms are for Nintendo games. And Rev will be the same way, no doubt.
soundwave05 said:
But I can't play with a system design! And PS3 and 360 have online. And they also will probably have lightgun shooters!
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
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BTW, reactions to this thread sicken me.....
Letter to Elise
Banned
littlewig said:
He's saying it costs more to downgrade the assets to the REV levels. Come on now, littlewig.
~l2e
soundwave05
Member
I didn't buy a sinlge third party port on the GameCube though.
To be honest the more radically different the Revolution is, the better chance is has of getting more interesting exclusives IMO.
Ubi Soft is already working on an FPS for the machine apparently ... what FPS exclusive did the GCN ever get?
As a publisher/developer you had no reason to give the GameCube an exclusive ... the biggest difference really between the GCN and PS2/XBox was the fact that it had digital click shoulder buttons.
You'll see fewer third party titles as a whole, but more third party exclusives, which to me is better.
To be honest the more radically different the Revolution is, the better chance is has of getting more interesting exclusives IMO.
Ubi Soft is already working on an FPS for the machine apparently ... what FPS exclusive did the GCN ever get?
As a publisher/developer you had no reason to give the GameCube an exclusive ... the biggest difference really between the GCN and PS2/XBox was the fact that it had digital click shoulder buttons.
You'll see fewer third party titles as a whole, but more third party exclusives, which to me is better.
Letter to Elise
Banned
littlewig said:
Of course you are.
~l2e
mrklaw said:
Someone will invariably make it, not noticing this thread. It'll be full of posts saying "Old news. LOL" and it'll get locked and descend into darkness.
Sorry pal, but your only option is to buckle up for the ride! 4PM soon on the West Coast. It could happen anytime.