As it should be. Thier arcade hardware was insanely advanced for the time.
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The most "State of the Art" game ever released
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RowdyReverb
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Quake II was very impressive for its time (1997). Colored lights!
jacob armitage
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Rödskägg;206535661 said:
Man, i really want a 60FPS remake of this game in a nicer resolution but nothing at all done to the art style or music. Maybe an optional remixed soundtrack, and improved draw distance.
There is such a unique charm to this games assets, its just so hard to go back and play it on the SNES.
Huge Succeeded
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you could run any 3D game through post processing like that and obfuscate it enough to claim that the game behind the grain is state of the art
You couldn't, but in this case your point is valid.
Get Wario Ware Smooth Moves on Wii! It has a Starfox/Starwing "demo".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwJHpEprIw
RespectThySole
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mcz117chief
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It is much better looking than both of those games though. Doom 3 was a huge leap in graphics.
I Robot - 3D platform shooter from 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmvWxG2zvs8
I previously wrote it was 1984, but after checking again it was actually a 1983 game. I'm old enough to have actually played it in NYC back then, and it was really amazing at the time.
This it. Far, far, far ahead of anything else at the time.
Another vote for Shenmue. The thing that is still, to this day impressive for me is how immersive the game world is. I would argue that it still has one of the best game worlds with every NPC having tasks to do and places to be. I was so amazed back that you could follow the hamburger guy home, or see someone close up shop, go to the bar and stumble their way home. It was the first game that felt like it was a living, breathing world.
Of course the graphics and whatnot too, but that's already been mentioned.
Edit: Also Super Mario World, the color usage in that game blew me away at release. Especially when compared to Mario 3. To me that was the single most significant leap in graphics throughout gaming history. NES to SNES, I mean.
Of course the graphics and whatnot too, but that's already been mentioned.
Edit: Also Super Mario World, the color usage in that game blew me away at release. Especially when compared to Mario 3. To me that was the single most significant leap in graphics throughout gaming history. NES to SNES, I mean.
Eolz
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Rogue Squadron 2, Game Cube
Oof, good shout. Showed that the GC was a lot more powerful than some people thought (based on theoritical numbers or reputation), and from launch too!
Isn't OP talking about graphics, technology and other related features ahead of their time, and that stayed that way for a while though?
The Wraith
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On the other side of the coin, (but still Dreamcast) Phantasy Star Online was a decade ahead not in graphics, sure, but in features. Online 4-player, custom emoji system for conversing with other languages, events, etc.[/QUOTE]
One of the greatest console online games of all time. The only game I played more was Diablo 2 from that time period. God I miss Sega being in the console business. I love PSO and it bothers me that they haven't brought number two stateside.
Yeah I'd say Outcast and FEAR are the two games with the best AI ever made. One obviously a more social/adventure game and the other a shooter - but both best-in-class at their own behavioural goals.
I think Naughty Dog are almost there on AI though. The Last of Us and Uncharted 4 on their hardest difficulties have some mind-boggling AI stuff. I think it might match FEAR actually. Need to replay it.
Jazzkokehead
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And still viable, due to the fact that the original Cryengine doesn't handle multi-core systems very well.
But that aside - the ways that Crysis pushed technology are still amazing to this day.
To be fair the $100-150 SNES alone could never do Star Fox by itself, it had a 3D co-processor in the cartridge.Rödskägg;206535661 said:I was surprised when I saw this back in 1993:
Starfox
The same year games like Doom and X-wing were released but this was for a $100-$150 home console.
Cave Johnson
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I'm sorry, I cannot accept this. Just because your character is compromised on higher difficulties doesn't make the AI "better".
Scud Race is a good pick, could throw Virtua Fighter 3 in there as well. Model 3 was a fucking beast..hell most 90's Sega coin-ops were untouchable.
A few more
Super Mario 64
Ridge Racer (Arcade)
Unreal Tournament (PC)
SF3: New Generation
A few more
Super Mario 64
Ridge Racer (Arcade)
Unreal Tournament (PC)
SF3: New Generation
Seven Force
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Galaxy Force is a great pick. That one couldn't even get a proper port until the sixth gen rolled around.
Dr.brain64
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Halo 1 on xbox simply amazing - the graphics, the music, the gameplay
Shivvy_NTL
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I remember the Jak and Daxter games having no load times which is impressive feat for an open world game on PS2. Game was ready to start from the get go.
A lot of open world games back then would take forever to load and entering building would have their own load times which Jak and Daxter didn't.
Correct me if I'm wrong though
Edit : Halo CE aswell ofc
A lot of open world games back then would take forever to load and entering building would have their own load times which Jak and Daxter didn't.
Correct me if I'm wrong though
Edit : Halo CE aswell ofc
Elitist1945
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Titanic Adventure out of Time, perhaps? Came out in '96 and you could explore (almost) the entirety of the Titanic with no loading.
What is also cool is that if they are nearby to the thing you want, they give accurate directions, but if they are far away they only give you a rough direction to travel in.
Jack The Nipper
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answers like this make no sense to me
games before it and near it blew it so far away it doesnt exist
Sir Abacus
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Wait wait wait wait wait.
We're 3 pages in and none of you have mentioned Power Drift? This is circa 1988 and was the finest Super Scaler game ever made.
We're 3 pages in and none of you have mentioned Power Drift? This is circa 1988 and was the finest Super Scaler game ever made.
I'm sorry, I can and will accept it.
It's nothing to do with how much health you have (although that is affected).
On higher difficulties the enemies communicate more, flee when relevant, flank more, push harder, throw more grenades, and move more (including climbing/dropping to tactical positions). I've had moments in Uncharted 4 on Crushing where I've got the drop on two guys, tagged one of them, then while firing at the other he's stumbled away, fled around the back of a rock, shouted 'He's back there!' to teammates (about me), then climbed up the other side of said rock, taken cover in a new position, and started firing on me while his teammates arrive from the other side. They legit give chase and keep track of you. They co-ordinate in groups to flank you. If they get close enough and you're weakened they can grab you and hold you for a teammate to attack. Replay the Jungle fight in Uncharted 4 a few times, on Crushing using the 'Encounter select' menu. You'll see what I mean.
The more you play it the more you see detailed AI behaviours - it's easy to breeze past these on a one-time playthrough, especially on Moderate/Hard where the AI is far less impressive and responsive. FEAR's AI is amazing, but it barely does anything more in-depth than this. It just does it really seamlessly and with great attention to detail.
The Last of Us also has substantially more complex AI than Uncharted. Enemies actually co-ordinate - watch closely when they lose track of you and one of them will say 'You guys check over there' *hand raises and points in a direction* 'I'm going this way!' *walks the other direction*. And you'll see the enemies split up and move in the relevant directions, exactly to how the guy gestured.
On top of that, in TLoU (and I think in Uncharted 2/4 but my memory is fuzzier) if enemies see you before you see them (eg they walk out from behind you) they will stealth attack you, grabbing you from behind and shouting 'He's here!' This is particularly amazing when you've had a skirmish then break off into stealth and, sitting behind cover with your brow sweating, you suddenly get a heart-stopping moment where you're suddenly and abruptly grabbed from behind.
Amazing work.
Word. It's really amazing.
I'm really excited about the upcoming remake/remaster.
BlazeHedgehog
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Page 3 and not a single person has said Jurassic Park: Trespasser?
In 1998, Trespasser attempted to do things that wouldn't become the industry standard until almost a decade later.
Y'all saying Crysis, but Crysis was just built on what Crytek tried with Far Cry, which in itself was born from a project called X-Isle, which seemed to be heavily inspired by Trespasser. Even Gabe Newell cited elements of Trespasser as inspiration for technology included in the Source Engine. It was the bleeding edge game of its generation.
Trespasser's whole problem is that it was too state of the art. It was so far ahead of its time that it tripped over its own feet and fell flat on its face in spectacular fashion.
In 1998, Trespasser attempted to do things that wouldn't become the industry standard until almost a decade later.
- Full body inverse-kinematics animation for every single character in the game. (this means no pre-canned animation, everything is controlled by the physics engine.)
- A physics engine that handled object collisions for everything in the world. Doors, crates, guns, dead bodies, vehicles, all of it was physics-driven.
- Huge, highly detailed (for 1998) outdoor environments.
- A dynamic LOD system that did several very advanced tricks, like lowering the detail of the heightmap world geometry and converting distant props in to 2D sprites to save on system resources
- Shader-like effects, like dynamic water surfaces, bump mapping and specular highlighting.
- An attempt at complex, almost simulation-like artificial intelligence for creatures, making them more than just targets to be shot
- HUDless gameplay, so that no interface would get in the way of immersion
- A dynamic foley system that is programmed to mix various samples on the fly in order to create any required sound effect
Y'all saying Crysis, but Crysis was just built on what Crytek tried with Far Cry, which in itself was born from a project called X-Isle, which seemed to be heavily inspired by Trespasser. Even Gabe Newell cited elements of Trespasser as inspiration for technology included in the Source Engine. It was the bleeding edge game of its generation.
Trespasser's whole problem is that it was too state of the art. It was so far ahead of its time that it tripped over its own feet and fell flat on its face in spectacular fashion.
Model 3. I remember playing Scud Race in 1996 and thinking "now this is how games from the future are gonna look". The Model 3 arcade board was almost military-grade technology.
From recent times, it's Crysis. The game is still taxing to powerful PCs even almost 10 years later. Such an ambitious game...doubt we'll ever see one like that again.
From recent times, it's Crysis. The game is still taxing to powerful PCs even almost 10 years later. Such an ambitious game...doubt we'll ever see one like that again.
SlipperyFishes
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Rise of the Robots?
jacob armitage
Banned
Can we all agree that the "least" state of the art game would be the generation 8 version of Putty Squad?
I don't know what that adds to the argument since the games with the FX chip cost the same as any other game.
clever hack but it's still all fucked up. has less going on.
Kaji AF16
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I agree. Its voxels engine wasn´t too GPU demanding for its time, so I could almost max it out with my Pentium 3 - 450 MHZ and my weak video card.
Very advanced from a technical standpoint (that water ), and an unforgettable semi-open world (large, portal-connected areas, vaguely comparable to what The Witcher 3 is today).
Honorable mentions:
-Captain Tsubasa 2: Super Striker (Tecmo, NES, 1990)
-Super Mario 64 (Nintendo EAD, Nintendo 64, 1996)
-Quake (id Software, PC, 1996)
Came here to post this. Look at the other contemporary games it shows in the video and tell me Shenmue didn't look like 1.5 generations ahead of them.
I would rather answer with Pokemon GSC. Thanks to Iwata, the game designers were able to fit another entire region.
nekkid
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Actually yeah, I'll go with this. I would love a modern reattempt.
Really feel like Crysis 1 is probably the best response to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtt9gMnm_l4
This game is 9 years old guys. NINE YEARS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtt9gMnm_l4
This game is 9 years old guys. NINE YEARS.
Yeah, I remember the first time playing that game as a kid, that stuff blew me away. It's funny how quickly things advance.
Sir_Crocodile
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Some fantastic sega arcade picks in this thread. I'll add a home console one - Rogue Leader on the Gamecube in 2001:
